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Old 9th Nov 2005, 09:14
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Boeing Record attempt

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Boeing jet in flight record attempt

09 November 2005 08:57
A new Boeing plane is taking off today in an attempt to break the world record for the longest non-stop passenger airline flight.

The specially adapted Boeing 777 is flying east from Hong Kong and is due to reach London's Heathrow Airport tomorrow afternoon after a 23-hour flight covering 12,000 miles.

Its scheduled flight path will take it over the northern Pacific and then over the northern part of the United States before crossing the Atlantic.
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From The Times:

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A new Boeing Plane takes off today in an attempt to brak the world record for the longest non-stop passenger flight. The Boeing 777-200LR is flying east from Hong Kong and is due to reach Heathrow about 1.23pm tomorrow, when it will have flown for 23hours and covered about 12000 miles.


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Am I missing something here?

Most sensible people would fly west-bound taking around 13 hours. 35 passengers is hardly a commercial load.

What are they trying to prove? ...or have Boeing lost the plot completely?
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...distance record my friend, not a fastest flight between those cities...
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The 777-200LR (Longer Range) will take off with a full load of fuel and 35 passengers and crew,
The Worldliner uses less fuel to fly farther, carry more passengers
A slight contradiction in terminology.
Not really a passenger carrying flight,more a media opportunity and a glimpse into a record book.Bet it couldn't do it the other way.
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See here
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Boeing to Attempt World's Longest Flight
Wednesday November 9, 3:43 am ET
Boeing Jet to Attempt World's Longest Nonstop Flight by Commercial Jet

HONG KONG (AP) -- Boeing Co. plans to break the record for the longest nonstop flight by a commercial jet -- a 12,500-mile trip that is to begin in Hong Kong, fly over northern Canada and land in London, the company said Wednesday.

"We plan to smash the current record," said Captain Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann, one of four pilots who is flying the Boeing 777-200LR.

The flight, which was to take off later Wednesday, will take about 23 hours and cover more than 11,000 nautical miles, or 12,586 miles, a Boeing statement said. The plane will have 35 passengers, including Boeing representatives, journalists and customers.

The jet plans to fly farther than a Boeing 747-400 that flew 10,500 miles from London to Sydney in 1989, the company said.

After leaving Hong Kong, the jet is to fly to the northern Pacific Ocean, cross North America and cruise over the Atlantic Ocean to London, said Chuck Cadena, a Boeing spokesman. Hong Kong-London flights usually fly over Russia.

The record-breaking attempt is part of Boeing's fierce competition with its European rival, Airbus SAS. The Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner was designed to compete directly with the popular Airbus 340-500, which has a flight range of 10,380 miles.

Boeing expects to deliver the first 777-200LR to Pakistan International Airlines in early 2006, the statement said. Taiwan's EVA Air, Qatar Airways and Air India also have announced orders.

Boeing said that Guinness World Records representatives would monitor the flight and attend the landing at Heathrow Airport.
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Thanks for your comments...

But it still sounds like driving from Heathrow to Gatwick CLOCKWISE around the M25.

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It's a record attempt, and as such it doesn't have to make sense.
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If they was TTrabs( of Draper thread fame)
All the standard seats would have gone to make way for.
Beds Bars Spars Cinema etc.

On a serious note what a waste of fuel.
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Cool

One might miss the point that much advertising could be described by many as doing exactly that.

It still happens and companies still do it. I wonder why
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I like the use of the word "attempt". I can hear the captain now!

'Welcome onboard todays flight ladies and gentlemen where will be attempting to reach our final destination London Heathrow. Your special attention should be given to the cabin crew who are about to give you a safety demonstration, especially the part about how to don your lifevest as it might become an issue in the final few hours over the cold Atlantic..... " :-)
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"We plan to smash the current record," said Captain Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann
It's about time a Hennemann won something

Unless the aircraft is carrying a full commercial load then the attempt is pointless. I guess Airbus may be tempted to eclipse them with an A380-600 (or whatever) with a full fuel load, zero freight and 35 pax, it doesn't really prove anything other than who can p*ss away the most fuel.
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Hope half an hour round the Bovingdon hold doesn't spoil the party, they'd look well having to declare an emergency or diverting due to lack of fuel.
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An A340-200 (yes, a 4 hairdryers job no less !) prototype did Paris to Auckland in June 1993. Great Circle is 11,516 mi (10,007 nm), over Siberia and Japan, where they probably had to do a bit extra. Anyone know the actual track distance they did ?

Are Boeing sure about the 1989 flight of the QF 747-400 nonstop delivery flight London to Sydney they cite as a previous record ? (although the above shows it is not currently held). I can remember this flight going overhead me in Buckinghamshire on departure from Heathrow and always thought it was London to Perth, the record it set being the first UK to Australia nonstop.

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Old 9th Nov 2005, 15:35
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Can't really see the point of this. Surely Boeing do not actually need to fly this to "prove" that the aircraft can do this, an accurate CFP between the city pairs on this routing would do it for them. No airline is going to fit the 777 with 35 seats and operate 23 hour sectors, so it is nothing more than a huge waste of fuel.
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WHBM: Are Boeing sure about the 1989 flight of the QF 747-400 nonstop delivery flight London to Sydney they cite as a previous record ?
It was definitely Sydney. IIRC, they had a mixture of luck en route, but ultimately enough good to outweigh the bad.

Also, IIRC the 340 that went to AKL just refuelled and came straight back. I think it was a stunt pulled for the show that year.
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I think it was a stunt pulled for the show that year.
Well, if departing Hong Kong and entering the biggest holding pattern ever to lose 12 hours on a Hong Kong to London flight isn't a stunt then I don't know what is !
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Certainly they will prove that Boeing can afford a high bill for the gas...
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Thumbs down sectors too long

Thumbs down to long sectors - give me european rosters please :-)
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