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Old 8th Oct 2006, 20:12
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Lhr vs Lgw

See from the Caa stats that there were just 3k less pax on the Lgw route than Lhr. With the recent increase in frequency from Easy and maybe more to come, how long will it be before Lgw is the main connection to London from Belfast? I refer to August stats. Who would have thought that a few years back? Bd must have serious concerns about the Lhr route when you look at the rate that the pax numbers are falling.

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Old 9th Oct 2006, 21:51
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With all the recent announements by Jet2/Easyjet/Wizz/Globespan of new routes, more flights and extra aircraft, BFS needs to start some major building work over the winter to be able to accomodate these new services.

An extended check-in hall and extra gates/stands are needed or we could be checking in flights outside the terminal.

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Old 12th Oct 2006, 11:57
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Tend to agree. There isn't really a lot of space for extra services in BFS terminal. Its only a matter of time before the 2nd terminal plans are put into action. I suspect some sort of temporary accommodation may be on the cards for check-in before too long.
Mind you, Easyjet haven't yet really "expanded". I dont think one rotation to Krakow will warrant another based aircraft, more likely relocation from another downgraded route - Perhaps their "further announcements" will change that. My money is on Madrid, Budapest or somewhere in Germany (one of Munich/Cologne/Hamburg).
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Old 12th Oct 2006, 17:08
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I'm sure I'm wrong but...

...did I see a FlyBe E195 land at BHD today about 4pm?
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You sure did!! Operates the BE410/411 most days now.
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Old 12th Oct 2006, 18:15
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easyjet's time in BFS has passed. Sources indicate there are no new aircraft, least of all buses and that the KRK is purely a rehash of the schedule. Any expansion is to be driven by non-based airframes. With the addition of Jet2's 757, soon they will have as many seats available as easyjet. In essence who really cares? The routes are now proven. If the orange empire were ever to retreat towards Luton, somebody else will take their place in BFS.
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Old 12th Oct 2006, 20:01
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Originally Posted by BFS/BHD
You sure did!! Operates the BE410/411 most days now.
When the 146 goes i'd say BHD will see alot of the flybe E195 on routes like BHX, LGW, MAN and possibly even EDI and GLA (there's competition for easyjet now!). I know this seems a bit of an out-of-the-blue question, but would this maybe mean an airbridge facility could be constructed at BHD?
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Old 12th Oct 2006, 20:32
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With the demise of the 146 BHD will get 2 based E195's eventually however when they will be allocated to BHD is another matter I cannot answer. As for air bridges I'd doubt this highly as these cost, precisely the reason why Ryanair and Easyjet for example don't use such items of luxury.


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Old 12th Oct 2006, 21:58
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What is the maximum range out of BHD in comparrison with the 146? Any chance of Euro routes?
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Old 15th Oct 2006, 16:00
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Belfast - Brussels

It is a number of years now since we have had a direct service to Belgium. What is the problem with this route, is it lack of demand? Why has no Lcc tried it and would say, a daily service with a Lcc work? Would Jet2 have been better to try Bru as opposed to competing with easy on existing routes to Spain?

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Old 15th Oct 2006, 16:20
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Well EZY and Flybe seem to have avoided BRU thus far and I doubt Jet2 would launch a route there. As far as I know Brussels is predominately a Business destination and from what I can see the only LCC serving Brussels from the UK and Ireland for the more leisure-orientated traveller is RYR to Charleroi.But given that the City of Derry airport is the only airport they currently fly from in NI, there definitely would'nt be demand for even a 2/3xweekly B738 flight to there.
Besides the carriers I mentioned previously, there is always Virgin Express from the other side but they tend to focus on the sunnier destinations.
I don't know...would SNBA try a 2/3x weekly service? Their AVRO RJ85s might be a tad big for the route though.
In my opinion if there was ever to be a Brussels flight from BFS, it would be maybe a BA connect or a BMI regional flight with one of their embraers, but can't see this materialising in the near-future. Stranger things have happened though.....

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Old 15th Oct 2006, 19:10
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Flybe have dabbled with BRU in the past but not from BHD and what they did didn't last long. Sabena used to run a daily service from BFS. I'm sure there's a good reason why SNBA don't.
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Old 15th Oct 2006, 19:24
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Originally Posted by shannon55
Well EZY and Flybe seem to have avoided BRU thus far and I doubt Jet2 would launch a route there. As far as I know Brussels is predominately a Business destination and from what I can see the only LCC serving Brussels from the UK and Ireland for the more leisure-orientated traveller is RYR to Charleroi.But given that the City of Derry airport is the only airport they currently fly from in NI, there definitely would'nt be demand for even a 2/3xweekly B738 flight to there.
Besides the carriers I mentioned previously, there is always Virgin Express from the other side but they tend to focus on the sunnier destinations.
I don't know...would SNBA try a 2/3x weekly service? Their AVRO RJ85s might be a tad big for the route though.
In my opinion if there was ever to be a Brussels flight from BFS, it would be maybe a BA connect or a BMI regional flight with one of their embraers, but can't see this materialising in the near-future. Stranger things have happened though.....
Sabena don't exist anymore mate they went bankrupt about 5 years ago! (around sept 11?), they did fly BFS-BRU with a 146 though, infact I think that the route was Belfast International's first scheduled international route (started in 2000), just before easyjet started Amsterdam!
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Old 15th Oct 2006, 19:45
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SNBA = SN Brussels airlines NOT Sabena.

I can think of Air France and NLM Cityhopper before Sabena at BFS.
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Not to mention British Midland's DC9's from Belfast International to Paris for short period in the early 90's
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Old 15th Oct 2006, 22:03
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Brussels

SN Brussels Airlines (SNBA) and Virgin Express are going to merge next year, thus creating a new airline, with a new name too.

At that stage they are bound to re-evaluate their routes, product, etc. Maybe then it's possible that they'll look at a Belfast route.
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Old 16th Oct 2006, 09:21
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Euromanx

See Euromanx are charging a fuel surcharge of £30 for a return trip Bhd to Iom. Can't believe it.

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Old 16th Oct 2006, 12:05
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would you believe it eh? Sabena went bust! Whatever next, crashing planes into buildings?
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Old 16th Oct 2006, 17:32
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i did say SNBA in my last post (not Sabena) which as was previously pointed out is SN brussels airlines
 
Old 23rd Oct 2006, 09:31
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Can anyone give the answer to RTs' question regarding the maximum range of the 195 from BHD. I would be very interested to know how much this differs from the 146 and subsequently what new opportunities may be available to flybe should the range be greater.

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