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If it's true that FR are trying to reduce charges and use a chicken and fox approach, then management should do what was done in Manchester a couple of years ago. EZY could pick up the slack along with other operators.
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Apaul.. FR do not fly EDI-STN.
This comment in the Scotsman forum probably explains it all.
It looks as if BAA are negotiating this deal with Ryanair to hold their prices up at a time when with approaching competition once the place is sold there will have to be real thought given to the pricing structure for landing fees - are they, then, trying to sabotage the Turnhouse operation in advance of the sale so as to boost Glasgow?? Could there be a link between O'Leary's scrapping flights at both Turnhouse and Prestwick?? Will we see him arriving at Abbotsinch in a few months time with a large portfolio of services filched from the other aiports and with the support of massively reduced landing fees???!! If so who can do something to stop this?
This comment in the Scotsman forum probably explains it all.
It looks as if BAA are negotiating this deal with Ryanair to hold their prices up at a time when with approaching competition once the place is sold there will have to be real thought given to the pricing structure for landing fees - are they, then, trying to sabotage the Turnhouse operation in advance of the sale so as to boost Glasgow?? Could there be a link between O'Leary's scrapping flights at both Turnhouse and Prestwick?? Will we see him arriving at Abbotsinch in a few months time with a large portfolio of services filched from the other aiports and with the support of massively reduced landing fees???!! If so who can do something to stop this?
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Will we see him arriving at Abbotsinch in a few months time with a large portfolio of services filched from the other aiports and with the support of massively reduced landing fees???!! If so who can do something to stop this?
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7 down to 6 based a/c
5 routes cancelled (Malmo, Murcia, Ibiza and Tallinn)
140 down to 110 weekly flights
300,000 passenger per year.
There current contract is finished in October 2012 and Ryanair said if it is not extended on more competitive terms there will be significant further cuts.
Ryanair Cuts Edinburgh Traffic by 15% From Summer 2012
5 routes cancelled (Malmo, Murcia, Ibiza and Tallinn)
140 down to 110 weekly flights
300,000 passenger per year.
There current contract is finished in October 2012 and Ryanair said if it is not extended on more competitive terms there will be significant further cuts.
Ryanair Cuts Edinburgh Traffic by 15% From Summer 2012
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If you read again, you will see that Apaul was just highlighting Laurie Price's lack of knowledge and not his own in respect of where Ryanair operate to from Edinburgh.
If you read again, you will see that Apaul was just highlighting Laurie Price's lack of knowledge and not his own in respect of where Ryanair operate to from Edinburgh.
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Here are more extracts from the BBC, that appear to show the usual MoL hyperbole.
That's four out of the six. Now, the new flights could have been expected to bring in new pax but their non-start will not affect the airport in the way that is suggested.
The observation about EDI / PIK / GLA sounds like it is spot on. FR plays a wide game, across many bases and has always proved that it will slash and burn to gain a pennyworth at another. No one expects them to be interested in the long term of their individual bases and routes. It is a harsh business model but one that they will pursue for the forseeable future.
Ryanair said it would close the routes between Edinburgh and Berlin, Malmo, Murcia, Ibiza and Tallinn. However, flights to Berlin had already been stopped, and the routes serving Malmo, Murcia and Ibiza were only launched three weeks ago and have not yet started operating.
The potential number of job losses has been disputed by industry insiders. Ryanair does not employ any staff directly at Edinburgh Airport. One source said they "would be amazed" if anything like that number of staff were made redundant.
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Interesting how the BAA conspiracy theories have begun already. Is it perhaps more a case that BAA don't do deals if it is not in the best financial interests of the organisation?
They already have one airport at STN where the Ryanair effect appears to have seen off many of the other airlines. Perhaps they are taking an approach (similar to MAN as already mentioned) to protect the wider business interests.
I don't know but in light of the sale would the "local management team" not be isolated from the wider BAA business to avoid exactly this sort of potential "foul play"?
MOL is sabre rattling to get the best deal for his airline as well he might. Just because BAA / EDI management don't want to play doesn't necessarily mean dark & sinister forces are at work!
They already have one airport at STN where the Ryanair effect appears to have seen off many of the other airlines. Perhaps they are taking an approach (similar to MAN as already mentioned) to protect the wider business interests.
I don't know but in light of the sale would the "local management team" not be isolated from the wider BAA business to avoid exactly this sort of potential "foul play"?
MOL is sabre rattling to get the best deal for his airline as well he might. Just because BAA / EDI management don't want to play doesn't necessarily mean dark & sinister forces are at work!
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If you read again, you will see that Apaul was just highlighting Laurie Price's lack of knowledge and not his own in respect of where Ryanair operate to from Edinburgh.
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It appears one of the demands were centered around ATC charges
Ryanair blames BAA as they axe routes from Edinburgh Airport putting 300 jobs in danger - The Daily Record
Ryanair blames BAA as they axe routes from Edinburgh Airport putting 300 jobs in danger - The Daily Record
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"Thinking outside the box"
Alex Salmond and the Skottish Parliament to vote 15m pounds sterling (not "Scots"; perish the thought !) to be used for pump priming of new routes in accordance with Brussels's hyper tough regulations.
Everyone then happy:
i) Scottish travelling public as it can now travel to Spitzbergen in mid-summer for a handful of bawbees (plus a supplement for paying the pilot, another for paying the cleaner, another for paying the tug, another for paying the window cleaner, another for paying the snow clearer in EDI, another for....)
ii) Alex Salmond (the second greatest politician in living memory, only eclipsed by Nelson Mandela; or so says Rupert Murdoch today in the soar away Sun) can rest easy on his laurels as a member of the European Premier League of airline subsidisers. Eat your heart out Artur Mas i Gavarró
iii) MOL as he counts his hard earned bonus
iv) The bureaucrats of Brussels as they know that the use of a Ryanair plane as a flying taxi by the Transport Commissioner in an outrageously brazen illegal intrusion into the decision of the electorate of Ireland in their most recent EU referendum has not been noticed by anyone of any judicial importance
Not a single fly in the lego-political-subsidy-rich ointment !
Everyone then happy:
i) Scottish travelling public as it can now travel to Spitzbergen in mid-summer for a handful of bawbees (plus a supplement for paying the pilot, another for paying the cleaner, another for paying the tug, another for paying the window cleaner, another for paying the snow clearer in EDI, another for....)
ii) Alex Salmond (the second greatest politician in living memory, only eclipsed by Nelson Mandela; or so says Rupert Murdoch today in the soar away Sun) can rest easy on his laurels as a member of the European Premier League of airline subsidisers. Eat your heart out Artur Mas i Gavarró
iii) MOL as he counts his hard earned bonus
iv) The bureaucrats of Brussels as they know that the use of a Ryanair plane as a flying taxi by the Transport Commissioner in an outrageously brazen illegal intrusion into the decision of the electorate of Ireland in their most recent EU referendum has not been noticed by anyone of any judicial importance
Not a single fly in the lego-political-subsidy-rich ointment !
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EXCLUSIVE: headline from tomorrow's Skottish Sun
MOL has threatened to walk away from EDI in autumn 2012 unless they guarantee 20m sterling. In cash. To be paid in full before the end of February.
"We're sick and tired of gombeen airports and their gombeen governments which treat Ryanair executives like a cross between cattle and human scum" he intoned to a packed press conference full of hyper credulous hacks as he playfully stuffed a pair of bagpipes down the orifice of the First Minister in Edinburgh on Tuesday.
"We're sick and tired of gombeen airports and their gombeen governments which treat Ryanair executives like a cross between cattle and human scum" he intoned to a packed press conference full of hyper credulous hacks as he playfully stuffed a pair of bagpipes down the orifice of the First Minister in Edinburgh on Tuesday.
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French post. sam air, air explore, jet2, monarch, XL france and air mediterranée are the main airline along with Air france with there 777 most of the aircraft are 737 with the odd A321 and757 and J41
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