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is this cos the BOH based Thompson 738 now being used is considered unsuitable for SOU's shorter runway?
There were also Air Europa 734's, 738's and Iberworld 320's operating to the Balearics during the same period.
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Were the Blueline A320 and MD83 in last night for the same reason? I believe the the A320 went to Nantes not sure about the MD.
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I think the only reason the Thomson 737 800 does not come into Southampton is that the aircraft is required back in Bournemouth to operate out to Bodrum in the afternoon . Thomson have a full schedule from BOH this summer and no W pattern s are being operated
There is obviously a spare Flybe jet at Southampton in the am which is able to take the work
There is obviously a spare Flybe jet at Southampton in the am which is able to take the work
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With ref to flybe having a spare aircraft for the thomson flight from southampton it is late every week and it is a based aircraft doing its first flight of the day ,i was on this flight back from palma on the 10th sat on tarmac in palma for 2 hrs bring back thomson airways for this flight.
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If you were sat on the tarmac for 2hrs then it will have probably been for one of two reason. Either the aircraft had a technical fault (but I would be surprised if you were onboard whilst this was ongoing), possibly more likely, you were delayed due to a ATC slot due to ongoing industrial action by French air traffic controllers.
I'm not saying that there was a strike on 10JUN but there have been quite a few recently. I think you'll find that whoever you were travelling on to SOU would have been in exactly the same situation.
I'm not saying that there was a strike on 10JUN but there have been quite a few recently. I think you'll find that whoever you were travelling on to SOU would have been in exactly the same situation.
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Well even a member of the cabin crew who had been on the weeks before flight was moaning saying it was only on this charter there were delays on there schedule service there were no probs like the week before something to do with the lift for the disabled helping those passengers on board thomson were saying it was thomsons issue and vice versa ,there was not this problem last year when thomson was opperating this flight.
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New Flybe Routes for SOU?
Southern Daily Echo yesterday had front page article on proposed new routes from SOU from 2011 using the new 88 set Embraer. Jim French is quoted as saying " We will be making Southampton a hub of International Business Travel by introducing new destinations....." Up to 14 extra flights a day are proposed with 10 possible new routes inc Milan, Stuttgart, Copenhagen, Helsinki, Stockholm.
Where on earth will they put the new aircraft on an ( at peak times) already crowded apron?
Where on earth will they put the new aircraft on an ( at peak times) already crowded apron?
From what I've seen, it's also pretty much empty once each "wave" departs, so some careful scheduling should mean capacity can be optimised(.....although as always I guess that means that some destinations may end up with less than ideal timings).
The pax/ATM data for SOU still shows it's operating below 2008 levels.
Biggest issue at SOU I think is still the aircraft size limitations when parking on the stands immediately adjacent to the multi-storey (not so much physical, but to do with encroachment on ILS critical area if I have understood correctly?)
The pax/ATM data for SOU still shows it's operating below 2008 levels.
Biggest issue at SOU I think is still the aircraft size limitations when parking on the stands immediately adjacent to the multi-storey (not so much physical, but to do with encroachment on ILS critical area if I have understood correctly?)
Thanks for clarification.....if this expansion all "takes off" there may even be business justification for the new stands to the east of 02/20 that the BAA Master Plan for SOU talks about.
I'm an occasional SOU pax (twice on domestics with BE in last 6 months) and love the fact that I can be in the car and driving out 10 mins after landing
I'm an occasional SOU pax (twice on domestics with BE in last 6 months) and love the fact that I can be in the car and driving out 10 mins after landing
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As this Southampton thread is always very quiet I thought I would try and keep it alive by asking this!
Does anyone know of any further expansion plans at Southampton such as new routes, possible new airlines, any planned airport developments, etc ??
Does anyone know of any further expansion plans at Southampton such as new routes, possible new airlines, any planned airport developments, etc ??
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bit of a random question but can anyone see luxair or lufthansa coming to southampton? a flight to luxembourg maybe 2/3x weekly could do well in the summer and a decent legacy carrier other than fickle air france could be useful.maybe a feeder flight by LH cityline on a crj 200 2x daily to either FRA or MUC would work nicely.Even 5x weekly, newquay and inverness have sustained successful services.Surely Southampton is worth a look at the bare minimum?
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Well if Flybe are anything to go by I would say a few German routes operated by the LH regional crj 700s/rj85s would work very well. Flybe do well on their German routes despite being quite badly timed. They should look at Frankfurt, Düsseldorf, Munich, Berlin and possibly Hamburg or even Stuttgart at 1-2 daily.
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I'm sure a LH CRJ-200 would be great for a twice daily flight to either MUC or FRA. SOU has no real connections since KL dropped AMS and AF/BE flight to ORY only seem to connect to minor AF longhauls.
Even SK to CPH might have possibilities
Even SK to CPH might have possibilities
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I thought LH regional stopped using the Crj200? Although I think some of the higher demand routes could sustain the Crj700 such as Düsseldorf and Frankfurt even with a double daily frequency.
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it looks like flybe will again take advantage of an available market but potentially abuse it. Flybe carried around 30,000 on the FRA route last year and it was not even in the top 10 routes out of SOU. I know they tried and abandoned but could AB comeback and possibly try Cologne or Paderborn again.I know for a fact that the local Ford plant deals regularly with the Cologne region, where many execs fly either into Heathrow or even catch the train.
As for Aer Arann Canberra97, I am in agreement. Cork was always a particularly convenient route with the local expats. I also think that Shannon could work well. As for Dublin, flybe have had issues regarding aircraft into it but I am shocked as to why Aer Lingus have not tried Southampton,yet Durham, Doncaster and Blackpool seemed to have double dailys (albeit they now seemed to have stopped!)
Again, a double daily atr 72 could work quite nicely if aer lingus regional take the brunt.Its too much of a risk for aer arann to try stand-alone
As for Aer Arann Canberra97, I am in agreement. Cork was always a particularly convenient route with the local expats. I also think that Shannon could work well. As for Dublin, flybe have had issues regarding aircraft into it but I am shocked as to why Aer Lingus have not tried Southampton,yet Durham, Doncaster and Blackpool seemed to have double dailys (albeit they now seemed to have stopped!)
Again, a double daily atr 72 could work quite nicely if aer lingus regional take the brunt.Its too much of a risk for aer arann to try stand-alone