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Old 21st Jul 2006, 17:26
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no thomson are doing alc for the winter, surprised they pulled tenerife off for winter always thort it did ok know alot of people that do tenerife in winter, went mar 05 with first choice on futura flights were full!!!
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 18:05
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Originally Posted by rufus.t.firefly
Air Europa might be interested but dont they normally operate IT services and not low cost type ops ??
Air Europa do have some scheduled flights but they tend to be to large cities like CDG and WAW
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Air Europa's charter flight is determined by the charterer. If there remains sufficient demand for it, it will continue.
Monarch will have left the AGP route for one of two reasons, either the revenue/yield was insufficient (in which case Jet2 would have to take a view based on their own costs and local exposure), or it was cannibalising their MAN-AGP flights (in which case Jet2 would be on to a winner).
Whatever happens, I reckon you Blackpudlians (?) can look forward to more services to sun-spots from the locos.
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 11:07
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When Monarch first announced BLK-AGP they had intended to base an aircraft in AGP. Half way through the winter this proved not to work them so they moved the aircraft back to MAN.

BLK has no based aircraft and so it must have tough for them to fit the BLK-AGP service into the schedule, with W patterns etc.

Now Jet2 have announced the service, it is understandable that ZB have ceased the service. With the other low cost routes from FR and LS doing so well at BLK, I would think the decision to withdraw was more of an operational one than anything else.

These things happen, point is, BLK is still going from strength to strength!

2007 - 1 million passengers is the forecast.
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Old 23rd Jul 2006, 10:13
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im sure flying a late at nite hasnt helped either as said before when flying early in morning the flights were selling out, maybe that should tell them something!
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 16:54
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Kingair Emergency landing

Anybody any more info on this?
http://www.lancashireeveningpost.co....icleID=1665343
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 18:22
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looking though jet2's flights next year just wondered if the airport was actually shut on a tuesday as from what i can see their only doing one flight out on that day, that and a couple of ryainairs gonna make it a very quiet day , yet fridays looks to be busiest day, wouldnt want to packed in there like sardines, especially if there was a delay
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 21:29
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im sure flying a late at nite hasnt helped either as said before when flying early in morning the flights were selling out, maybe that should tell them something!
take-off since when has a 60% load factor been a sell-out? Read the CAA stats. The flights were not the success you seem determined to paint them to be and that is the reason the schedule was changed i.e. in order to try and stem the losses
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 09:25
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Tartintom - 60% load factor? Do you know the facts? The BLK aircraft used to operate via NQY over the winter, so they only sold around half the aircraft for BLK originating passengers, so of course the loadf factor will look bad - as half the pax got on at NQY!

Since the service has been operating directly, and even accounting for the over night flight, the loads have been around 80% - not bad for a scheduled service and I am sure comparable compared to Manchester, Liverpool and the likes.

Re next year, of course the airport is not closed on a tuesday! Jet2.com only have 3 or 4 of the 9 routes the operate on sale for summer 2007, on average BLK will be dealing with around 10-12 low cost flights per day (between FR and LS) in 2007. In addition to this, you have the regional Irish Sea traffic and anything else that may happen between now and then.
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 12:18
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garethjk22...please read the previous posts. Take-off was suggesting that the flights were full when they used to operate direct BLK - AGP. I was merely pointing out that this was garbage
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 17:25
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in reply to tartin tom and others , i was only saying it was a sell out because monarch had it in their website news section that it was!!!!
which was why they said they were flying into next year from blackpool!!!!, obviously it must be such an embarassment to them cause it been removed from what i can see now!
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 17:28
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as for being closed i was trying to say it going be like a sardine tin on a friday !
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 17:33
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as for me saying that the flight times were the problem ive spoke to quite a few people that would have gone from blackpool but for the fact they werent prepared to fly that late at nite! any business has to offer a product or service people want to buy and use obviously nobody wanted to fly at that time of night which is why understandably monarch have pulled it , all ive ever tried to put across was that if they'd have kept better times then maybe it would still be flying, i could be wrong but i guess we shall just have to see how jet2 do with it , unless someone else steps in this winter.
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 19:51
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take-off

There are no night flights from Blackpool at the moment. Winter 2006/7 is very civilised with Jet2.
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 09:50
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nope it wouldnt !
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 09:57
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Browsing through tuesday nitghts Evening gazette, on the letters page 2 people had written in commenting on monarch pulling out of blackpool. One commented on that as the flight times, were not good, that people didn't want to fly and would rather pay extra to get a decent time from manchester, proves point if u don't offer a service people want to use they won't support it, and before everyone shoots me down , yes i know its only 2 people, but obviously they aren't the only ones to think that now.

Hope my punctuation is a bit better?
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Old 3rd Aug 2006, 16:40
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Tartintom - as you claim to have derived your load factor from the CAA stats, can you tell me how you have done this? The CAA stats do not show passengers who flew direct and those who flew indirect.

My point being, that if for example the CAA say 5000 people flew in any one month, you do not know how many of those went on the direct flight, and how many went via another airport on the same aircraft (such as via NQY) - so if you simply take the passenger numbers / number of seats on aircraft, you will miss the NQY passengers - ?
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 15:52
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ive sed it before - selling off all that land for the business park was a good idea at the time when they were skint but could do with it now. heard they
are after buying back morrisons, knock that down along with the emerald and other hangars and build a nice new terminal
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 19:50
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that would be a rather expensive option that buying morrisons,cost asda £20+ million to get the old co-op, cant see that airport having funds to buy morrisons seeing how successful it is, unless they had an area of spare land to give them, then that would only work if they could get planning permission which for out of town stores is very hard these days.Just seems an unlikely option to me. But then what do i know? But do agree, think they've gone too far selling land off to a point theres nowhere to expand with a decent open area, with the airport gettin busier where would extra parking go?
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Old 4th Aug 2006, 21:23
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cumbrianboy...the double drops only started at the end of Jan...try and keep up..there's a good chap
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