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Thomsonfly will be basing a 737 at LTN for S06?. Anyone confirm.
Three new destinations for Wizz ex LTN in the pipeline for the first 6 months of 2006.
Would think that a daily rotation to another destination will follow for the BMI jungle jet, as it sits on the ground for 5 hrs in between the first & second BRU ops.
Seccond daily Helvetic to ZRH now in operation.
FR to base two more 738s for S06. Ezy, as said before, will become clearer over the next few weeks but definately new routes to follow.
Two new euro airlines plus one UK for next year S06. No based aircraft by any.
Two new routes by MON. 40% expansion this coming winter over W05.
So 2006 is looking to be a great year
Three new destinations for Wizz ex LTN in the pipeline for the first 6 months of 2006.
Would think that a daily rotation to another destination will follow for the BMI jungle jet, as it sits on the ground for 5 hrs in between the first & second BRU ops.
Seccond daily Helvetic to ZRH now in operation.
FR to base two more 738s for S06. Ezy, as said before, will become clearer over the next few weeks but definately new routes to follow.
Two new euro airlines plus one UK for next year S06. No based aircraft by any.
Two new routes by MON. 40% expansion this coming winter over W05.
So 2006 is looking to be a great year
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Thomsonfly will be basing a 737 at LTN for S06?. Anyone confirm.
So what are we looking at then overall, is it 2 x 757, a 767 and a 737 for next summer?
Three new destinations for Wizz ex LTN in the pipeline for the first 6 months of 2006.
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Based airlines
No airport like base operators.....
1. They want to park their smelly aircraft all over the nice new concrete, blocking aprons & terminal stands.
2. They want office space, staff car parking & complain if they have to park too far away.
3. They want discounts on fees.
4. They want to maintain aircraft with those maintenance people, well there the worst, wanting to go and run their engines and annoy all the airport neighbours......
The airport ideal, as stated, is an airline based somewherelse, who only wants to land, park for 30-40 minutes and then departs.
1. They want to park their smelly aircraft all over the nice new concrete, blocking aprons & terminal stands.
2. They want office space, staff car parking & complain if they have to park too far away.
3. They want discounts on fees.
4. They want to maintain aircraft with those maintenance people, well there the worst, wanting to go and run their engines and annoy all the airport neighbours......
The airport ideal, as stated, is an airline based somewherelse, who only wants to land, park for 30-40 minutes and then departs.
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easyJet may well have new routes, but no additional based aircraft until 2007? Mind you, with the new management in place, they might see thier dominance at Luton begin to crumble and fight back!
Wizz! must be Bulgaria and Romania?
Monarch, no surprise.
Thomsonfly must be an 800 to differentiate thier rather cloudy brand image?
BMI Regional to Munich?
Another UK airline apart from FlyBe (Jersey) or BMI (Brussels)........No idea! Jet2 venturing south?
(Edited bit) GB Airways were rumoured a while back?
RYR, no great secret.
2 EU airlines.......from Mr Luton Relic's comments to me, that one would be Air Berlin, but I am not convinced.
I bet at least one is EC- reg?
Wizz! must be Bulgaria and Romania?
Monarch, no surprise.
Thomsonfly must be an 800 to differentiate thier rather cloudy brand image?
BMI Regional to Munich?
Another UK airline apart from FlyBe (Jersey) or BMI (Brussels)........No idea! Jet2 venturing south?
(Edited bit) GB Airways were rumoured a while back?
RYR, no great secret.
2 EU airlines.......from Mr Luton Relic's comments to me, that one would be Air Berlin, but I am not convinced.
I bet at least one is EC- reg?
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Hot off the press, easy 737-800's are coming - Boeing have been back in the building! 
Guess they're going to have to build a multi-story ramp to put all the aircraft on though!
Guess they're going to have to build a multi-story ramp to put all the aircraft on though!
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easy to buy 800's..........and trade in a few 319's (I added that bit!). Might as well 'shrink wrap' easyLand in Ryanair blue and paint a harp on the front!
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I would of thought, BMI Regional maybe adding Munich and hopefully EZY adding Hamburg, with the world cup coming up and all, also heard bout easyjet maybe venturing to Malta maybe a future destination from LTN
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So does Luton ground radar actually work? While in fog today tower was asking whether company aircraft had past behind. Seem to get a lot of this type of talk at LTN. Surly with ground radar the tower should see what is going on or are there dead spots around the airport?
This has enabled the airport's movement rates in fog to be safely increased (although obviously, not to the same amount as when it's clear).
The procedure has absolutely nothing to do with the surface movement radar being unable to 'see' the taxiways.
LTNman -
I'll bow to your superior knowledge as to Britannia's 757/767 mix this year. If they've got 2 757s and half a 767, that's an increase on last year, and not what the brochures suggested.
As far as Thomsonfly 2006 being scheduled services or charters, I now believe this distinction is effectively redundant. They will be using TOM flight numbers and the flights are bookable without accommodation. But the timings are not the same every day, and there seems no distinction between a 757-operated 'charter' and a 737-operated 'schedule'. I've a feeling the TOM flights from COV BOH and DSA can be used as part of a package.
Bobby Guzzler -
Sorry, no chance of EZY -800s. EZY have invested in Airbus, and their huge orders/options can be converted to A320 or A321 if required. The 737-300s will only stay as long as the leases, and I would wager the -700s will go, especially if EZY can place them in a new home.
Buster -
Is the 'new' UK airline NOT BMi? Are you guessing or do you 'know'? Jet2 I feel is unlikely. They have just announced a further strengthening of their Northern roots with operations at NCL and BLK. Can't see the population of Luton wearing flat 'ats and eating black pudding.
I'll bow to your superior knowledge as to Britannia's 757/767 mix this year. If they've got 2 757s and half a 767, that's an increase on last year, and not what the brochures suggested.
As far as Thomsonfly 2006 being scheduled services or charters, I now believe this distinction is effectively redundant. They will be using TOM flight numbers and the flights are bookable without accommodation. But the timings are not the same every day, and there seems no distinction between a 757-operated 'charter' and a 737-operated 'schedule'. I've a feeling the TOM flights from COV BOH and DSA can be used as part of a package.
Bobby Guzzler -
Sorry, no chance of EZY -800s. EZY have invested in Airbus, and their huge orders/options can be converted to A320 or A321 if required. The 737-300s will only stay as long as the leases, and I would wager the -700s will go, especially if EZY can place them in a new home.
Buster -
Is the 'new' UK airline NOT BMi? Are you guessing or do you 'know'? Jet2 I feel is unlikely. They have just announced a further strengthening of their Northern roots with operations at NCL and BLK. Can't see the population of Luton wearing flat 'ats and eating black pudding.
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I see that Stansted only reported a 5% increase in passengers for September, yet another month of single digit growth. The days of 20-30% growth are over until the second runway opens, if it is ever approved?
Plenty of scope now for Luton to soak up the excess growth north of the Thames! Stansted has plenty of runway capacity, but not stand availability during peak hours.
Plenty of scope now for Luton to soak up the excess growth north of the Thames! Stansted has plenty of runway capacity, but not stand availability during peak hours.
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I see that Stansted only reported a 5% increase in passengers for September, yet another month of single digit growth. The days of 20-30% growth are over until the second runway opens, if it is ever approved?
Plenty of scope now for Luton to soak up the excess growth north of the Thames! Stansted has plenty of runway capacity, but not stand availability during peak hours.
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Provisional stats for September show that 862,689 passengers used Luton up 122,000 or 16.7%. Year on year figures are 8,868,049 up 1,650,000 or 22.9%.
9,000,000 is starting to look like it might occur around November, Not bad seeing that 8,000,000 was passed only in April of this year.
9,000,000 is starting to look like it might occur around November, Not bad seeing that 8,000,000 was passed only in April of this year.
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new car cark
I have been studying the outline planning application for the old Vauxhall site at http://www2.luton.gov.uk/kimptonroad/. The proposal includes a 24m high mega multi story car park for the airport, which will contain 5000 spaces. The location for this is at the back end of the development in the northeastern corner. Location maps can be found in the development framework plan. Also worth looking at the Development concept aerial prospective link in the mauve section
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BMI Regional doing MUC makes sense especially in between the BRU they plan to do. Debonair used to fly MGL-LTN-MUC-LTN-MGL with good timings. LTN-BRU-LTN-MUC-LTN-BRU-LTN will work commercially but not from a crewing angle 
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...worth looking at the Development concept aerial prospective link
A multi-story car park designed to serve LTN having a capacity of 5000 cars sited on a combined business park/residential development with a single access/exit onto Kimpton Road just won't work.
You only have to look at similar business park/residential development sites to see the queues of traffic weekdays trying to get in between 8.15am and 9am, and trying to get out again between 4.30pm and 6pm, to realise that LTN's airline passengers using the facility during 'rush hours' are not going to find this concept efficient or user-friendly.
What's required is a second access/exit point that primarily serves the car park combined with bus lanes to enable public services and airport-related buses to avoid being caught up in the traffic.
The next step will no doubt be to ban all private vehicles (public and airport-related staff but excluding vehicles owned by disabled drivers) from the airport site and to require everyone to catch a shuttle bus to/from the central terminal area or other worksite on the Airport.
Judging by the Kimpton Road proposal, if you live locally it'd be quicker to walk and if not, to catch the train to Luton Airport Parkway station and take your bike.
Which is probably the Council's cunning master plan...
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Yet another half ~ no, it's completely baked ~ plan from Luton Borough Council.
Lets also no forget Airparks who use land at Slip End on the wrong side of the M1 for parking. Their large car park always seems full.
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