Moving threads to Spotter's corner
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Moving threads to Spotter's corner
I notice that a number of threads about specific airports have recently been moved to the Spectators Balcony. Fair enough, you're the mods, but if I want to read threads about 'Airlines, Airports and Routes' I go to that forum. If I'm 'not a professional pilot and want discuss issues about the job' I go to Spotters Corner. Sort it out chaps, try and get it right eh? 
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So for instance, 'Luton Happenings', is not related to Airlines, Airports or routes, I suggest Mr Moderator you read its contents?
My I also suggest that whoever decided to move the various posts relating to the airports, move them back to this part of the forum again please, or give us a valid reason for moving them into spotters corner?
My I also suggest that whoever decided to move the various posts relating to the airports, move them back to this part of the forum again please, or give us a valid reason for moving them into spotters corner?
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DOUBLE DITTO....
How come Bournemouth, Luton, Humberside, Blackpool & Manchester get moved but Northern Ireland, Newcastle, Nottingham East Mid, Leeds, Birmingham, Bristol etc stay. If you move one, you should move the lot. Better still, just leave them alone, on this thread, as all relate to airports, airlines & routes. Isn't that what this thread is all about?.
How come Bournemouth, Luton, Humberside, Blackpool & Manchester get moved but Northern Ireland, Newcastle, Nottingham East Mid, Leeds, Birmingham, Bristol etc stay. If you move one, you should move the lot. Better still, just leave them alone, on this thread, as all relate to airports, airlines & routes. Isn't that what this thread is all about?.
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Agree with all the above - the move is madness!
Anyway, Luton can't be moved to Spectators Balcony ... the airport doesn't have any form of spectators facility .. let alone a balcony.
Anyway, Luton can't be moved to Spectators Balcony ... the airport doesn't have any form of spectators facility .. let alone a balcony.
In defence of the moderators......
While I enjoy reading about goings on at various airports, I believe real news and well informed rumour has been severely diluted in recent months by spotters and enthusiasts who have clogged many of the threads up with far fetched wish lists, idle speculation and rivalries with enthusiasts of neighbouring airports.
It's not necessarily an easy call deciding if something is worthwhile news / rumour or not, but I lot of the stuff I read - drawing up detailed arrival / departure schedules for specific airports, trying to work out tour operators aircraft movements, arguing the toss about whether a particular aircraft is the best type to fly a particular route - clearly belongs in spotters corner IMO.
While I enjoy reading about goings on at various airports, I believe real news and well informed rumour has been severely diluted in recent months by spotters and enthusiasts who have clogged many of the threads up with far fetched wish lists, idle speculation and rivalries with enthusiasts of neighbouring airports.
It's not necessarily an easy call deciding if something is worthwhile news / rumour or not, but I lot of the stuff I read - drawing up detailed arrival / departure schedules for specific airports, trying to work out tour operators aircraft movements, arguing the toss about whether a particular aircraft is the best type to fly a particular route - clearly belongs in spotters corner IMO.
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Airports, Airlines and routes is what it says so why move them, either move none or all ,but why?
Its the forum I read the most and very rarely go to the spotters forum because I know that I need only look in one forum
Bring them back please
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Its the forum I read the most and very rarely go to the spotters forum because I know that I need only look in one forum
Bring them back please
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We can also decide where we want to go as to where we want to post our remarks.
I am sure other forums would like more contributions.
PS why is this forum in Airports and Airlines has nothing to do with any of them...........Bye
I am sure other forums would like more contributions.
PS why is this forum in Airports and Airlines has nothing to do with any of them...........Bye
Bit of a spotter type meself, but I agree with Andy_S. I believe many of the spotters now frequenting PPRuNe are getting confused about the original intention of the AIRLINES, AIRPORTS & ROUTES forum. Danny has kindly set up a spotters forum with SPECTATORS BALCONY and I would suggest that all "spotting" type threads be limited to that particular forum. And I don't like the rude attitude of some of the above posters. Who do you think you are guys? PPRuNe was never set up as a spotters forum, so YES by all means do go somewhere else if you don't like it.
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Many ppruners will be saying goodbye to pprune now the old fart mods have pulled the last plug of these forums. They're so stick-in-the-mud, they'll probably chop these comments too.
Most peope on here are enthusiasts, some work at airports but either way this is only a Airlines, Airport and Routes Rumour!
If I am a spotter why am I not interested in a/c registrations and why am I interested with the development of uk airports.
Most peope on here are enthusiasts, some work at airports but either way this is only a Airlines, Airport and Routes Rumour!
If I am a spotter why am I not interested in a/c registrations and why am I interested with the development of uk airports.
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So Mod / Avman , lets make it clear to everyone -
Just what can and can't be posted on this Forum ? What was the original intention of the AIRLINES, AIRPORTS & ROUTES ?
From a non-spotter, but someone who has a keen interest in aviation in the community I can say in that in three years of reading material on this forum I've come across very little to do with "spotters" or "spotting".
Just what can and can't be posted on this Forum ? What was the original intention of the AIRLINES, AIRPORTS & ROUTES ?
From a non-spotter, but someone who has a keen interest in aviation in the community I can say in that in three years of reading material on this forum I've come across very little to do with "spotters" or "spotting".
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The advantage of the happening threads was that everything about a particular airport was in one handy thread in one forum. Seemed like a good idea to me as it was a time saver. So the intention now is that we all have to hunt through various forums to find what was on one thread.
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If I am a spotter why am I not interested in a/c registrations and why am I interested with the development of uk airports.
Many people I know work within the industry, and for those of us who do not, provided we partake in sensible & reasoned debate concerning the relevent matters of the thread,(which I would say at least 90% of us do) we should not be dumped into a spotters balcony forum.
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I started a new thread here called Good and Bad news for Luton Airport seeing that the thread Good and Bad news for Cork Airport is still here. Sorry to say that my thread only lasted 30 minutes before being moved to spotters. Looks like Luton info is no longer welcomed here which is strange as I am sure there is an airport at Luton!
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Perhaps the Mod memories have suffered a little lapse.
The reason for this profusion of long-running single-airport threads was because it was decreed that some airports were having too many thread started to to cover each little event or development. Therefore most of the discussion of general developments at each airport on AA&R should be kept in one place.
Are you prepared for the return of half a dozen+ threads per regional airport?
If some of the contributions to these threads are regarded as becoming too "spotterish" how about putting a Sticky reminder about the role/scope of this forum at the top before randomly transferring highly popular threads to a fairly minor PPRuNe forum. Most of the posts that I think have caused this problem seem to have come from relatively new members. How about educating them about the best places to post different questions first before punishing the long-standing members who have put in a lot of effort and thought to these threads.
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The reason for this profusion of long-running single-airport threads was because it was decreed that some airports were having too many thread started to to cover each little event or development. Therefore most of the discussion of general developments at each airport on AA&R should be kept in one place.
Are you prepared for the return of half a dozen+ threads per regional airport?
If some of the contributions to these threads are regarded as becoming too "spotterish" how about putting a Sticky reminder about the role/scope of this forum at the top before randomly transferring highly popular threads to a fairly minor PPRuNe forum. Most of the posts that I think have caused this problem seem to have come from relatively new members. How about educating them about the best places to post different questions first before punishing the long-standing members who have put in a lot of effort and thought to these threads.
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I think you make some excellent points.
I can understand up to a point why the airport omnibus threads have been removed, because some were tending to become, "My airport is better than yours." The various 'supporters' seemed like those who support a local football team against a rival team in a nearby town.
But this does not explain why only some airports have been removed to the spotters' forum.
It would be very helpful, and indeed the obvious thing to do, for the moderators to explain their thinking.
I don't worry which forum these sorts of topics are put in, just so long as I know. I usually visit the spotters' forum each time I log onto PPRuNe anyway, as well as this one.
I think you make some excellent points.
I can understand up to a point why the airport omnibus threads have been removed, because some were tending to become, "My airport is better than yours." The various 'supporters' seemed like those who support a local football team against a rival team in a nearby town.
But this does not explain why only some airports have been removed to the spotters' forum.
It would be very helpful, and indeed the obvious thing to do, for the moderators to explain their thinking.
I don't worry which forum these sorts of topics are put in, just so long as I know. I usually visit the spotters' forum each time I log onto PPRuNe anyway, as well as this one.