Eujet cease operations/Manston(Merged)
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I can assure you that FR did have an interest in MSE - i had an offer from them on the 16th Sept 2002 to operate from MSE to PIK then SNN.
The fat controller at the time didnt like the deal so said no! Tw$t
The fat controller at the time didnt like the deal so said no! Tw$t
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pee,
your rumour/question seem to be gaining ground, made it to local TV and Radio
airhumberside,
local TV said passanger flights would restart to france, italy and Spain, that sounds like the newmarket(KM) charter flights .
your rumour/question seem to be gaining ground, made it to local TV and Radio
airhumberside,
local TV said passanger flights would restart to france, italy and Spain, that sounds like the newmarket(KM) charter flights .
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I wouldn't have thought that the STN base would be diluted significantly. LTN is reasonably close, however MSE as we know is considerably further away. If EUjet had been the cause of dilution, FR wouldn't have been too shy about doing something about it.
You could argue that BOH would dilute LGW pax, but FR operate there. You could equally argue that LGW being closer to London would dilute STN, but....
MSE is a different / additional catchment area. Price it correctly, and people are likely to choose it as an alternative airport, with a more speedy throughput. For those outbound, very reasonable car parking charges is attractive.
*Edited for typos!*
You could argue that BOH would dilute LGW pax, but FR operate there. You could equally argue that LGW being closer to London would dilute STN, but....
MSE is a different / additional catchment area. Price it correctly, and people are likely to choose it as an alternative airport, with a more speedy throughput. For those outbound, very reasonable car parking charges is attractive.
*Edited for typos!*
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seems that old mac gold rich has lost his operating licence, or is this just a vicious rumour?
cargo flights to start soon, two a week apparently, but no more staff reqd as yet, b**ls.
no word yet on pax flights
cargo flights to start soon, two a week apparently, but no more staff reqd as yet, b**ls.
no word yet on pax flights
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Manston up and running
As of 15:00hrsl today Kent International Airport (Manston).
Is notamed at Cat 4 and looking for business.
It's not Cat 6 full passenger operation yet, but it's a damn fine start.
Well done Infratil.
Is notamed at Cat 4 and looking for business.
It's not Cat 6 full passenger operation yet, but it's a damn fine start.
Well done Infratil.
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EUJET EUJET..not mse or planestation
As I understand it now the AOC is gone. The examinership officially wound up the last tuesday in august. Interestingly enough the examiners appointed ( Luby/McStay) are the same ones appointed when Pj's previous bubble, Transaer, burst. Anybody else smell something ratty? Apparently there were several offers to buy the AOC, some were immediately discounted and some were given some credence but in the end it seems that they, if 'they' ever existed in the first place, were not inticed by what was on offer, acquiring the company debts and also the rumoured insistence of Big Daddy PyJamas having lil Johnny back at the helm. I mean in all fairness, would you? As for all the yakedy yak about this guy Dr Michael Grimes ( where did he get his doctorate I'm wondering and what in?, perhaps it's one of the Ian Paisley ones from Bob Jones uni in the US.) As was mentioned earlier, stop quoting this guy as if he were some oracle of aviation knowledge, he's not! He's a well known eccentric nut job in various circles. I know that alot of the Eujet staff, particularily the longer serving ones, were hoping that something might happen before long and that they might be either paid their july salary ( which has not and will not now happen) fairly soon or that they would be re-employed in whatever fashion the company might re-emerge (this isn't happening either). The ones resident in the uk are lucky enough not to be bogged down in meaningless and antiquated labour laws and so have or will soon be paid by their government. The ones in Ireland have not got that luxury and so are still waiting for the examiners final report to go through, as is required by the afformentioned meaningless and antiquated labour laws. Do not hold your breaths as some ex Transaer folk are still waiting for their beans since Y2K!! If you dont believe me then check it out. The big PyJamas is no twit and has his jet pipe well and truly covered in this respect so you can be sure that he is not, and is not going to be at any time in the future beholden to you are anyone else daring to put forth a claim. Leaves you wondering how he managed to pull this stunt off yet again considering his historical track record of flunking and being not just the buachaill dana but the amadan at the back of the airline class too. Perhaps it has something to do with his many pals at the IAA in Hawkins St. D1 who were only too happy to furnish him with a spanky new AOC and give him another shot. For those of you out there that are feeling hard done by and perhaps teetering nervously on the edge of becoming bitter and twisted,let me say this, don't be. At least we can all walk off at the end of the day with our reputations intact. I know this does not pay the bills but it will at least go some way to securing you employment in another establishment. This is more than can be said for your former CEO whose already dubious rep has now got more holes that a tetley tea bag and were it not for his considerable wealth, would now be in a much worse off situation than any of the rest of you. Let's face it, no one on this side of the planet will want to hire his 65 yr old failed arse or that of his 'mini me' add on top of that a very distinct surname that sets off alarm bells whenever it is mentioned and you can be sure they will be quiet on many a front for some time to come.
On a separate note, would the moderator of this thread kindly remove the irrelevant posts about planestation and the future of mse airport. I thought this was an eujet thread.
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On a separate note, would the moderator of this thread kindly remove the irrelevant posts about planestation and the future of mse airport. I thought this was an eujet thread.
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On a separate note, would the moderator of this thread kindly remove the irrelevant posts about planestation and the future of mse airport. I thought this was an eujet thread.
'Eujet cease operations/Manston(Merged)'
So also covers the future of mse
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SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI.....
AirHumbleside, !!!
No offense to you, but .....
Is there any "FUTURE" for MSE.......
well under invested and so far behind industry standard.....
I hope you win the Jackpot ?!?!
All yours
No offense to you, but .....
Is there any "FUTURE" for MSE.......
well under invested and so far behind industry standard.....
I hope you win the Jackpot ?!?!
All yours
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Is there any "FUTURE" for MSE.......
When you last visited Manston (if you ever have).
I take it you didn't actually open your eyes long enough to see the newly re-furbished terminal, or the latest state of the art Border Inspection Post a new 1000 space car park perhaps or the few million quid spent on upgrading the taxiways and main apron?
No ?
Didn't think so....
Thats just what can be seen by anyone happening by the Airport.
A far cry from under investment or below industry standard.
As the future of Mnaston..
Well thats anyones guess, but we have a new global company with other airports in it's portfolio and and a willingness to get the freight and passengers moving again after the last six years with planestation.
Thats me off my soap box for now...... i feel so much better
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Good Luck !
Hey Blazing,
don't get me wrong ,I wish you luck
to all of you in " Kent International " .
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When you last visited Manston (if you ever have).
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not very long ago for the last time,
and landing twice daily about five days a week for the last 12 months......
methink...there is more than cosmetic re-furbishing to be done....
runway, taxiway, approach, lights , ILS on both QFU,deicing equipment,tugs.......ETC and the list is long , but and foremost improve the ATC terminal area.....
again Good luck !
don't get me wrong ,I wish you luck
to all of you in " Kent International " .
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When you last visited Manston (if you ever have).
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not very long ago for the last time,
and landing twice daily about five days a week for the last 12 months......
methink...there is more than cosmetic re-furbishing to be done....
runway, taxiway, approach, lights , ILS on both QFU,deicing equipment,tugs.......ETC and the list is long , but and foremost improve the ATC terminal area.....
again Good luck !
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king cotton
This wasn't a personal attack, just fed up of all the knockers out there who don't see the big picture.
The Airport was in a terrible state when sold by the M.O.D and it has had 6 years worth of investment to bring it up to the level it is now.
Admitedly it's not perfect and still more needs to be done, but it is a long long way ahead of the old R.A.F days.
This wasn't a personal attack, just fed up of all the knockers out there who don't see the big picture.
The Airport was in a terrible state when sold by the M.O.D and it has had 6 years worth of investment to bring it up to the level it is now.
Admitedly it's not perfect and still more needs to be done, but it is a long long way ahead of the old R.A.F days.
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here we go again, when will people like king cotton (brain) stop putting down mse ?
every airport starts somewhere at the bottom its just that we have had no one, until now, to guide us upwards.
gold air biz jet in this morning, two air atlanta 747 on bravo and african dc8 on echo this afternoon, starting to look like an airport again, well done Infratil.
onwards and upwards me old mates.......
every airport starts somewhere at the bottom its just that we have had no one, until now, to guide us upwards.
gold air biz jet in this morning, two air atlanta 747 on bravo and african dc8 on echo this afternoon, starting to look like an airport again, well done Infratil.
onwards and upwards me old mates.......
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kellyoldsmunt
It's going to take a lot more than 4 movements a day for it to be called a success.
Lets face it , the local population didn't want to support it.
This fact cannot have escaped FR and any other LoCo airline thinking of operating out of there.
You just have to look at how much the number of routes and the frequency of flights were massacred from day one.
There has never been a successful pax airline operating out of MSE.
It gave stirling service during the war , but its greatest post-military use was as the London major emergency airfield.
I wish it every success as a cargo hub, for which it is ideally suited, but it will never be a major passenger airport, not as long as the majority of Kent's population live closer to LGW - and lets face it, the road access to MSE is a joke and how about the non existant rail link.
Lets just not even visit the topic of weather !
LOCATION, LOCATION,LOCATION !!!!!!
I like airports.
I dont 'put them down' for fun.
MSE was a major part of an air defence system in the 30's , and 40's.
It was then developed as a REMOTE OPERATING LOCATION for nuclear bombers and was then sold when the MOD had no further use for it.
REMOTE, REMOTE, REMOTE !!!
Like many people , I will not see a penny in redundancy, or , unlike the Planestation staff who were paid the Friday before the whole thing went belly-up(conspiracy theorists, unite!), will never see my July wages.
The whole administration con will be dragged out until the Administrators and management have eaten up the money that should have gone to the staff.
It's going to take a lot more than 4 movements a day for it to be called a success.
Lets face it , the local population didn't want to support it.
This fact cannot have escaped FR and any other LoCo airline thinking of operating out of there.
You just have to look at how much the number of routes and the frequency of flights were massacred from day one.
There has never been a successful pax airline operating out of MSE.
It gave stirling service during the war , but its greatest post-military use was as the London major emergency airfield.
I wish it every success as a cargo hub, for which it is ideally suited, but it will never be a major passenger airport, not as long as the majority of Kent's population live closer to LGW - and lets face it, the road access to MSE is a joke and how about the non existant rail link.
Lets just not even visit the topic of weather !
LOCATION, LOCATION,LOCATION !!!!!!
I like airports.
I dont 'put them down' for fun.
MSE was a major part of an air defence system in the 30's , and 40's.
It was then developed as a REMOTE OPERATING LOCATION for nuclear bombers and was then sold when the MOD had no further use for it.
REMOTE, REMOTE, REMOTE !!!
Like many people , I will not see a penny in redundancy, or , unlike the Planestation staff who were paid the Friday before the whole thing went belly-up(conspiracy theorists, unite!), will never see my July wages.
The whole administration con will be dragged out until the Administrators and management have eaten up the money that should have gone to the staff.
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YAWN!
obviously you didnt recognise the fact that when the bog trotters went ta-ta the aircraft that flew to the popular destinations were almost full, every flight, just when it came good it went belly up.
another reason why an enquiry is a must.
pax flights can suceed if it is run properly and with some intelligence, sadly lacking with the other lot. sorry you didnt get your redunancy money, once again a limitation of the weird laws over the water.
p.s.
I did say it is starting to look like an airport..... from little acorns and all that.
yall go careful now.
obviously you didnt recognise the fact that when the bog trotters went ta-ta the aircraft that flew to the popular destinations were almost full, every flight, just when it came good it went belly up.
another reason why an enquiry is a must.
pax flights can suceed if it is run properly and with some intelligence, sadly lacking with the other lot. sorry you didnt get your redunancy money, once again a limitation of the weird laws over the water.
p.s.
I did say it is starting to look like an airport..... from little acorns and all that.
yall go careful now.