Cardiff Happenings
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Hey guys was just wondering if we could have a dedicated topic for CWL happenings - every other airport has one yet CWL's posts seem to be scattered everywhere! I know someone will write 'whats the point? nothing ever happens there! hehehe!' but still think it will be good!
Summer 2006 looks up for CWL with new Kosmar flights to
KGS - Sat 2100 - 0600 (Sun)
EFL - Sun 1540 - 2330
ZTH - Sun 0500 - 1330
CFU - Mon 0700 - 1435
Fri 1410 - 2140
All the above seem to be operated by UK based airlines. (no details on website www.kosmar.co.uk about operators but flight timings seem to suggest this) Anyone know which ones? I think the Fri CFU will be BY but not sure. The weekly HER on a fri is still going to operate too.
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Summer 2006 looks up for CWL with new Kosmar flights to
KGS - Sat 2100 - 0600 (Sun)
EFL - Sun 1540 - 2330
ZTH - Sun 0500 - 1330
CFU - Mon 0700 - 1435
Fri 1410 - 2140
All the above seem to be operated by UK based airlines. (no details on website www.kosmar.co.uk about operators but flight timings seem to suggest this) Anyone know which ones? I think the Fri CFU will be BY but not sure. The weekly HER on a fri is still going to operate too.
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There was a news item on the CWL website earlier in the year about a weekly incoming flight from Zurich this summer bringing Swiss tourists to Wales?
Anyone know how successful it is? Who is the operator and what is the equipment used?
Any more news on the FR base rumours?
Anyone know how successful it is? Who is the operator and what is the equipment used?
Any more news on the FR base rumours?
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Yeah its operated by Swiss on a Avro RJ100 - there are only 4 departures hopefully they are just 'testing the water' in order to launch a full programme next year (just speculating). Flight details are as follows:
LX9036
ZRH - CWL
0800 - 0915
LX9037
CWL - ZRH
0950 - 1505
All times local.
First departure from ZRH is on the 31st of JUL and the last returning on the 21st AUG.
Details are taken from www.travel-house.ch/falcontravel all in german though - easy to work out for non-german speakers!!
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LX9036
ZRH - CWL
0800 - 0915
LX9037
CWL - ZRH
0950 - 1505
All times local.
First departure from ZRH is on the 31st of JUL and the last returning on the 21st AUG.
Details are taken from www.travel-house.ch/falcontravel all in german though - easy to work out for non-german speakers!!
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First thing they need to do is build a new more modern terminal. I passed through a few weeks back and the place is in dire need of an update.
Cardiff has some serious potential but they need the facilities first.
Cardiff has some serious potential but they need the facilities first.
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Dont forget BY's plans next summer at CWL.. I believe it will be two 767's initially, one for the short and one for longhaul. Can someone from BY confirm this??
I will be interested in where the bloody hell all these a/c are going to park?? Bearing in mind the zoom will be in and out along with travel city, and the third WW a/c!!!!
If the babies occupy their usual stands, with a BY, an MYT and an FCA on the bridges that means they have to find space for the other 76', along with the excel 73' all within reasonable distance of the terminal.
Could be fun!!
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I will be interested in where the bloody hell all these a/c are going to park?? Bearing in mind the zoom will be in and out along with travel city, and the third WW a/c!!!!
If the babies occupy their usual stands, with a BY, an MYT and an FCA on the bridges that means they have to find space for the other 76', along with the excel 73' all within reasonable distance of the terminal.
Could be fun!!
Opinions??
there are two new rumours that are alleged to have come out of a meeting held last week i believe.
The first is that BA ( CX? ) are looking to put Dash 8's back in to Cardiff to set up the base that they closed a couple of years ago. The second rumour is that Easyjet have approached the airport with a view to nightstopping 2 aircraft at CWL which i guess would mean W patterns out of BRS.
I'm not 100% convinced about either but thats apparently what was discussed.
The first is that BA ( CX? ) are looking to put Dash 8's back in to Cardiff to set up the base that they closed a couple of years ago. The second rumour is that Easyjet have approached the airport with a view to nightstopping 2 aircraft at CWL which i guess would mean W patterns out of BRS.
I'm not 100% convinced about either but thats apparently what was discussed.
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Have heard may just be Galley FM that the usual 767-200 will do the short haul along with the 757-200 and a new 737 (not sure which model). The additional 767-300 for the longhaul will just visit CWL 3 times a week to operate the CUN, SFB and POP flights.
Have also heard that XL will use a 767 on the SFB for Travel City instead of the 747-300. The XL aircraft will be a 737-800 (well reported as being anyway!). BRS supporters don't seem to be too happy at that! LOL! Will this aircraft be based at CWL or just positioning into CWL for the flights?
I would not be surprised if BA did create a base at CWL again. They made a big mistake at pulling out of the capital, which now they've realised! Routes are desperatly needed from the welsh capital but at the right price (as 6G found out on the £300 return to BRU!!!).
Not too sure about the EZY rumour. Would be good in a way! Give WW and FR a good proverbial kick up the backside!!!
CWL did draw up plans for a new terminal inbetween the current terminal and BAMC. The security hut would be moved along with the car parks. Details were available at Barry Docks and somewhere online (I will find the link and get back to you!!!). These plans however seemed to disappear after 09/11 - hopefully they'll consider a new terminal soon!!! Think its long overdue!!!
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Have also heard that XL will use a 767 on the SFB for Travel City instead of the 747-300. The XL aircraft will be a 737-800 (well reported as being anyway!). BRS supporters don't seem to be too happy at that! LOL! Will this aircraft be based at CWL or just positioning into CWL for the flights?
I would not be surprised if BA did create a base at CWL again. They made a big mistake at pulling out of the capital, which now they've realised! Routes are desperatly needed from the welsh capital but at the right price (as 6G found out on the £300 return to BRU!!!).
Not too sure about the EZY rumour. Would be good in a way! Give WW and FR a good proverbial kick up the backside!!!
CWL did draw up plans for a new terminal inbetween the current terminal and BAMC. The security hut would be moved along with the car parks. Details were available at Barry Docks and somewhere online (I will find the link and get back to you!!!). These plans however seemed to disappear after 09/11 - hopefully they'll consider a new terminal soon!!! Think its long overdue!!!
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The old domestic pier is being demolished over the Winter. Stand 1 currently open parking is to become 6 new nose in stands with signature apparently moving down to the bottom of taxiway E with GA then being parked on taxiway E not the current stand 1.
There is ample room for more stands should demand exceed supply, the whole of the grass area between the current stand 1 and taxiway E could be concreted over giving multiple parking arrangements.
The legal notices have just been issued regarding upgrading the road link to the airport with 5 mile lane being made into a trunk road from its current basically country road status.
The plans for a new terminal were drawn up some time ago but it is a bit of a chicken and an egg scenario regarding the building of it, we are told that passenger figures need to increase quite substantially for it to happen, but I have also heard( purely a rumour this part) that the airlines are demanding the new terminal as part of operating out of Cardiff.
There is enormous potential to tap and there is room should it ever be needed to further lengthen the runway.
Rumours regarding airlines are rife at the moment, if only half of them come true then we are in for a healthy future.
There is ample room for more stands should demand exceed supply, the whole of the grass area between the current stand 1 and taxiway E could be concreted over giving multiple parking arrangements.
The legal notices have just been issued regarding upgrading the road link to the airport with 5 mile lane being made into a trunk road from its current basically country road status.
The plans for a new terminal were drawn up some time ago but it is a bit of a chicken and an egg scenario regarding the building of it, we are told that passenger figures need to increase quite substantially for it to happen, but I have also heard( purely a rumour this part) that the airlines are demanding the new terminal as part of operating out of Cardiff.
There is enormous potential to tap and there is room should it ever be needed to further lengthen the runway.
Rumours regarding airlines are rife at the moment, if only half of them come true then we are in for a healthy future.
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See part of the original announcement on the CWL website re Tui/Thomsonfly below.
Pioneering airline, Thomsonfly (previously Britannia Airways), has announced a major development of its base at Cardiff International Airport.
The development includes new long-haul and extra European destinations, which will increase Thomsonfly's year round capacity at Cardiff by more than 50%, amounting to over half a million passengers per year.
The plan also calls for extra Thomsonfly aircraft to be based at Cardiff.
The airline's new programme for summer 2006 features direct long haul flights to Cancun in Mexico and Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic, both of which are a first for Wales and the West Country.
In addition, Thomsonfly will be adding a flight to Orlando Sanford in Florida, increasing the number of Cardiff International's weekly Orlando flights from two to three.
These new long-haul routes will be flown by a Boeing 767-300 series aircraft, configured with Thomsonfly's 315 seat two class premium cabin. The aircraft will be based in Cardiff three days per week.
Meanwhile, Thomsonfly is adding new European destinations and increasing the frequency of its existing services from Cardiff by supplementing the existing Boeing 757 (235 seats) with a Cardiff-based Boeing 737-800 (189 seats) from next summer.
New destinations beginning in summer 2006 include Monastir (Tunisia), Bourgas and Varna (Bulgaria), and Crete (Greece), while frequencies to Malaga, Alicante, Palma, and Tenerife will be increased. New Thomsonfly destinations from Cardiff are also planned for the winter.
As I read it this gives a based 757 and a based 738 plus a part-based 767-300 for the long haul.
As for Excel, Humberside is also getting a new base for this airline from next summer and they have been told they will be getting a 738 as well.
Perhaps that is Excel's policy - a 738 for the first summer then perhaps something else, like an Islandsflug 734.
That's what happend to NCL and BRS, although as far as BRS is concerned an Air Malta 320 was added as a second based unit so that at least half the programme has something decent.
Pioneering airline, Thomsonfly (previously Britannia Airways), has announced a major development of its base at Cardiff International Airport.
The development includes new long-haul and extra European destinations, which will increase Thomsonfly's year round capacity at Cardiff by more than 50%, amounting to over half a million passengers per year.
The plan also calls for extra Thomsonfly aircraft to be based at Cardiff.
The airline's new programme for summer 2006 features direct long haul flights to Cancun in Mexico and Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic, both of which are a first for Wales and the West Country.
In addition, Thomsonfly will be adding a flight to Orlando Sanford in Florida, increasing the number of Cardiff International's weekly Orlando flights from two to three.
These new long-haul routes will be flown by a Boeing 767-300 series aircraft, configured with Thomsonfly's 315 seat two class premium cabin. The aircraft will be based in Cardiff three days per week.
Meanwhile, Thomsonfly is adding new European destinations and increasing the frequency of its existing services from Cardiff by supplementing the existing Boeing 757 (235 seats) with a Cardiff-based Boeing 737-800 (189 seats) from next summer.
New destinations beginning in summer 2006 include Monastir (Tunisia), Bourgas and Varna (Bulgaria), and Crete (Greece), while frequencies to Malaga, Alicante, Palma, and Tenerife will be increased. New Thomsonfly destinations from Cardiff are also planned for the winter.
As I read it this gives a based 757 and a based 738 plus a part-based 767-300 for the long haul.
As for Excel, Humberside is also getting a new base for this airline from next summer and they have been told they will be getting a 738 as well.
Perhaps that is Excel's policy - a 738 for the first summer then perhaps something else, like an Islandsflug 734.
That's what happend to NCL and BRS, although as far as BRS is concerned an Air Malta 320 was added as a second based unit so that at least half the programme has something decent.
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EZY night stopping 2 a/c? - Your haveing a laugh aint you?
BA rumour, i heard that over here, but speaking to friends of mine BACX crew they haven't heard a thing and say they cant see it happening.
Nice to see CWL finally getting a bit of luck, been in decline to long.
Are the EK-DXB and Air Wales-JFK rumours still going round or have they fizzled to nothing.
As for parking, Dont forget everyone thought BRS was going to have parking issues with 8 EZYs, 5 BA, 2 FCA, 1 BY, 1MYT, 1 KL, 1 SN,1 KM,1 XLA etc etc plus visitors but there has been no probs at all, I'm sure parking wont be a prob, just not everyone will get an airbridge, share and share alike people!
BA rumour, i heard that over here, but speaking to friends of mine BACX crew they haven't heard a thing and say they cant see it happening.
Nice to see CWL finally getting a bit of luck, been in decline to long.
Are the EK-DXB and Air Wales-JFK rumours still going round or have they fizzled to nothing.
As for parking, Dont forget everyone thought BRS was going to have parking issues with 8 EZYs, 5 BA, 2 FCA, 1 BY, 1MYT, 1 KL, 1 SN,1 KM,1 XLA etc etc plus visitors but there has been no probs at all, I'm sure parking wont be a prob, just not everyone will get an airbridge, share and share alike people!
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Quote "first thing they need to do is build a new more modern terminal" - wouldn't hold your breath there considering who owns it!
Take a look at BFS (owned by the very same) and you'll see what I mean - now over 40 and gradually disintegrating!
Take a look at BFS (owned by the very same) and you'll see what I mean - now over 40 and gradually disintegrating!
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Hi guys, I am cc for by out of cwl and thought I'd confirm what we're doing next year.
There will be a 757, 737-800 and a 767-300 based at cwl as from may.
Plan is, although we are all still in the dark about it, 75 doing the greece, bulgaria, canaries and cyprus runs. 73 doing all the spanish routes and the 763 will be based there 3 days of the week doing pop,cun and sfb.this 763 is going to be shared with doncaster.
hope this helps.
There will be a 757, 737-800 and a 767-300 based at cwl as from may.
Plan is, although we are all still in the dark about it, 75 doing the greece, bulgaria, canaries and cyprus runs. 73 doing all the spanish routes and the 763 will be based there 3 days of the week doing pop,cun and sfb.this 763 is going to be shared with doncaster.
hope this helps.
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It about time this started happening!!
CWL desperately need to pull back all the welsh passengers that are travelling to BRS, BHX and LGW. I live in the heart of the valley's, and its amazing how many of my family and friends fly out of england. Certainly not through choice, its purely because they can't get the flights out of CWL.
EZY certainly would put the fright's up BMI, cant see it happening though!
CWL need to decide quick what they are going to do about the terminal. They are doing a grand job of the gradual re-furb, but whats the point of putting money into that if a new one is to be built. I think they should just expand westwards off what they already have, which they probably will end up doing.
Bring it on BRS, stop stealing the welsh!!
CWL desperately need to pull back all the welsh passengers that are travelling to BRS, BHX and LGW. I live in the heart of the valley's, and its amazing how many of my family and friends fly out of england. Certainly not through choice, its purely because they can't get the flights out of CWL.
EZY certainly would put the fright's up BMI, cant see it happening though!
CWL need to decide quick what they are going to do about the terminal. They are doing a grand job of the gradual re-furb, but whats the point of putting money into that if a new one is to be built. I think they should just expand westwards off what they already have, which they probably will end up doing.
Bring it on BRS, stop stealing the welsh!!
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Hi guys.
Are 6G scaling back their ABZ flights?
They started at twice daily M-F & a Su flight.
Now they seem to be once daily M-F(am on M,Th;pm Tu,W,F).No Su flight anymore.
How are 6G doing on this route ?
Are 6G scaling back their ABZ flights?
They started at twice daily M-F & a Su flight.
Now they seem to be once daily M-F(am on M,Th;pm Tu,W,F).No Su flight anymore.
How are 6G doing on this route ?
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CWL could do with taking a leaf out of BRS book, they turned around a small airport and have made it into a success.
Yes the terminal issue is an interesting one, having seen the outline plans for the proposed new terminal it is fantastic with 40 plus stands available. Again CWL would be wise to look at how other airport companies work, BAA and their shopping facilities brings in huge amounts of revenue and also gives something for the passengers to do whilst they wait for flights.
The actual terminal is not as bad as some would make out, it has been under constant refurbishment for the 5 years i have been here. I have been to a number of regional airports and think the facilities equal those of any of them, although it would be nice if Airside passengers could see the runway etc.
I think many of us hoped with the buyout of TBI by a Spanish Construction company that there would be huge investment and the new terminal, it doesn't however seem to be any nearer now than it was a year ago.
Yes the terminal issue is an interesting one, having seen the outline plans for the proposed new terminal it is fantastic with 40 plus stands available. Again CWL would be wise to look at how other airport companies work, BAA and their shopping facilities brings in huge amounts of revenue and also gives something for the passengers to do whilst they wait for flights.
The actual terminal is not as bad as some would make out, it has been under constant refurbishment for the 5 years i have been here. I have been to a number of regional airports and think the facilities equal those of any of them, although it would be nice if Airside passengers could see the runway etc.
I think many of us hoped with the buyout of TBI by a Spanish Construction company that there would be huge investment and the new terminal, it doesn't however seem to be any nearer now than it was a year ago.
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The last figures I saw suggested that in percentage terms both BRS and CWL take about 10% of their overall passenger numbers from the other's 'territory'.
So I don't think it is a case of BRS grabbing Welsh pax anymore than it is of CWL grabbing English ones.
There is a certain overlap in the two airports' catchment areas and to an extent they provide a complementary service for all airline travellers in South Wales/West of England.
For instance, I was talking to someone from Bristol the other day who is taking her family to Toronto from CWL with Zoom because no flight exists from BRS.
The last figures I saw suggested that in percentage terms both BRS and CWL take about 10% of their overall passenger numbers from the other's 'territory'.
So I don't think it is a case of BRS grabbing Welsh pax anymore than it is of CWL grabbing English ones.
There is a certain overlap in the two airports' catchment areas and to an extent they provide a complementary service for all airline travellers in South Wales/West of England.
For instance, I was talking to someone from Bristol the other day who is taking her family to Toronto from CWL with Zoom because no flight exists from BRS.
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Hello Merchant.
I don't care what the figures say - they are complete and utter noncense!! I work frequently at both.
The majority of pax travelling through CWL are Welsh, I agree that around 10% of them are from over the bridge.
BRS is slightly different. In the summer the figure maybe close to 10%, but I feel it is more 20! In the winter however, the welsh travelling through BRS must equate to around 40% - there are hundreds and hundreds of them over there. Why? Because CWL seem to hang up their gloves for the winter!!
This is obviously nothing to do with the airports concerned, and solely down to the tour operators and airlines.
FCA is a prime example. In the winter they send their CWL a/c to EXT along with its crew! What the hell is that all about!!
BMI cut right back also, rather than re-structuring their route network!
Anyway, back to the point! Bring on the 40 plus stands, and the jobs to go with them!!
I don't care what the figures say - they are complete and utter noncense!! I work frequently at both.
The majority of pax travelling through CWL are Welsh, I agree that around 10% of them are from over the bridge.
BRS is slightly different. In the summer the figure maybe close to 10%, but I feel it is more 20! In the winter however, the welsh travelling through BRS must equate to around 40% - there are hundreds and hundreds of them over there. Why? Because CWL seem to hang up their gloves for the winter!!
This is obviously nothing to do with the airports concerned, and solely down to the tour operators and airlines.
FCA is a prime example. In the winter they send their CWL a/c to EXT along with its crew! What the hell is that all about!!
BMI cut right back also, rather than re-structuring their route network!
Anyway, back to the point! Bring on the 40 plus stands, and the jobs to go with them!!