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Old 22nd Aug 2005, 14:36
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Apparently several EI pilots are reaching the 900 hour limit and are having to be stood down. An FO I know is in this situation and now has 6 weeks off (on full pay) before he can fly again.

Most people seem to think that pilot recruitment will be needed in the next 12 months as the current situation is unsustainable.

The Labour Court ruled that the 9/11 cadets should be recalled before any outside recruitment takes place, following the pilots strike in 2002. Most of the cadets are now working for other airlines. Many are happy with their lot, while others would like to return.
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Old 25th Aug 2005, 09:05
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Apparently they are close to new working arrangements for long haul cabin crew

http://breaking.tcm.ie/2005/08/25/story217746.html
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Old 25th Aug 2005, 12:57
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I think the Labour Court ruling only guaranteed an interview, nothing more, to the ex-cadets, although I stand to be corrected on this. If they went the route of rated people, this would rule out most of the cadets anyway, most being Boeing/BAe typed.
My guess is that if EI were to recruit non-rated, the door would be beaten down by the pilots of every other dublin based company, not to speak of all the Irish guys abroad who would like to come home. About the only thing that would turn people off is the command time issue, which I have heard is currently 14 years at EI.
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Old 25th Aug 2005, 17:45
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I thought cadets were typed to 320 rather than 146/737?
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Old 29th Aug 2005, 16:31
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No not necessarily. It used to be that cadets could bid for 146, 737 or 32x courses unless the company found itself short on a particular fleet in which case they would be told which type they will be going on to. Although the last few cadets who kept their jobs were all typed on the 32x as Aer Lingus had plans to dump the 146 and 737's.

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Yeah that was my understanding aswell. If the cadets are recalled they will almost certainly have to undergo an interview and sim check before being re-hired. There's no way they will recall 44 ex-cadets on good faith...
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Old 30th Aug 2005, 22:07
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I should have said "ex-cadets" when referring to those who are Boeing/BAe rated. The point being that most of the ex-cadets got jobs elsewhere on 737's or 146's (with some exceptions of course), thus if EI were looking for rated people only, most of the ex-cadets would be de facto ruled out.

The last class of cadets to stay at EI were rated on all 3 short-haul types at the time (spring 2001), later converting to the 'Bus, but of course that issue is now irrelevant.
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Old 31st Aug 2005, 18:00
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737/146
ryanair/cityjet

watch the stampede back to the jolly green giant
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Old 1st Sep 2005, 07:06
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id say most of the ex cadets have jobs,anyhere here an ex cadet?? i know of a cadet who returned to college and now has a flying job with a regional carrier,he must of been the last to have been snapped up seeing he returned to college.
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Old 1st Sep 2005, 09:21
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Most of the cadets have found other jobs now but there are still a few who have not. There's a few in EasyJet, Aer Arann, CityJet, GB Airways, Monarch, Jet2 and one or two who went to Ryanair after being released.

I'm sure a lot would return to AL, given the opportunity but there are probably some who wouldn't - being happy with their current lot.
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Old 2nd Sep 2005, 23:21
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Airbus / Boeing

Are we to take it that Tom de Tenor is a Cork born Boeing employee ? , boy ! . Does he really want EI to have a mixed fleet as suggested ?
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