BACX ....whats happening?
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Main point of the post was really to ask why as pilots we bother trying to second guess what's going to happen because the chance of ever guessing correctly OR being told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth by management is slim as it would be in ANY commercial outfit, airline or otherwise. My post wasn't intended to be smug, nor was i trying to pretend that the whole of BACX is some fantastic outfit. Was just offering some balance to the general view that BACX is some sort of hell hole.
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Voting with ones feet, is a fairly good acid test as to how content or otherwise the workforce are with their lot. Existing bonds dont seem stop a career move to a major player.
Just because BACX are about to announce the withdrawal of several lucrative routes, doesn't mean that BA will not still be present on the same routes!
GB will shortly announce they are to 'fill the gap' in the market by offering more capacity on routes which are pretty maxed out for RJ operations. We cannot operate larger aircraft on the routes for SCOPE reasons, so another franchise operator will be allowed to take over. (Fair play to them, they aren't hindered by inept management and leadership like us!)
Of course we were told only a few months back by our previous GMFO that GB would only operate to 'sunshine routes' not served by BACX, and that none of our routes would be handed over! HA! HA! HA! What a joke!
I no longer believe a word that comes out of their mouths.
GB will shortly announce they are to 'fill the gap' in the market by offering more capacity on routes which are pretty maxed out for RJ operations. We cannot operate larger aircraft on the routes for SCOPE reasons, so another franchise operator will be allowed to take over. (Fair play to them, they aren't hindered by inept management and leadership like us!)
Of course we were told only a few months back by our previous GMFO that GB would only operate to 'sunshine routes' not served by BACX, and that none of our routes would be handed over! HA! HA! HA! What a joke!
I no longer believe a word that comes out of their mouths.
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August 11th announcement rumoured to be about BA's & BACX's plans to go down the loco route of charging for food and drinks on all shorthaul services....
Can anyone confirm how many RJ's have been sold to LH??
Can anyone confirm how many RJ's have been sold to LH??
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I have heard that its going to be the removal from a lot of european routes from man. A mainline base been added there to do these routes for BA due to the poor performance of BACX at man.
They are holding out for a few months before any changes to the BA shorthaul network to see how BMI fair and if it was going to be a proper mainline announcement then it would not have been delayed, has much more of a footprint of BACX's typical indecision. Not long now though.
Rumor has it the only way they can do it with mainline is by a dramatic downsizing of the other mainline base they have to free up the aircraft needed..........Said base is also in Willies targets.
They are holding out for a few months before any changes to the BA shorthaul network to see how BMI fair and if it was going to be a proper mainline announcement then it would not have been delayed, has much more of a footprint of BACX's typical indecision. Not long now though.
Rumor has it the only way they can do it with mainline is by a dramatic downsizing of the other mainline base they have to free up the aircraft needed..........Said base is also in Willies targets.
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There is absolutely no way on earth BA Mainline will revert MAN back to one of their bases. The general idea is to try and save money! I can imagine the routes that will go will be along the lines of MAD/FCO or MXP as they're much better served by an A321 of GB than trying to flog the guts out of an RJ. Makes sense to me, although keeping the 146's doesn't make sense at all as they'll have to be replaced eventually but that will feature in Business Plan no. 342!!
If anyone in BACX management would like to enlighten it's staff of the future of the company and what direction it's supposed to be taking then be kind and tell people once and for all then individials can decide whether to go and work for one the many profitable competitors or stay and try and make it work......
XRJ . . . . pilots should be aware of what the management are thinking. Just ask those that are on their 3rd relocation package and also their 3rd type rating in 12 months. And you wonder why people get miffed.....
If anyone in BACX management would like to enlighten it's staff of the future of the company and what direction it's supposed to be taking then be kind and tell people once and for all then individials can decide whether to go and work for one the many profitable competitors or stay and try and make it work......
XRJ . . . . pilots should be aware of what the management are thinking. Just ask those that are on their 3rd relocation package and also their 3rd type rating in 12 months. And you wonder why people get miffed.....
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Of course Mainline would cost/lose more than BACX do if they opened MAN as a base. The a/c are larger and more costly. How how would flying 50 - 60 people to MXP on a A319 or 737 be cheaper than doing so on an RJ? Especailly as Mainline would require 5 crew when BACX only use 3 etc. There is too much competition on most MAN routes so not likely to fill any current BACX routes on a 319/737! The cost of re-opening a BA base at MAN would be huge!
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if a 319 can do more rotations due higher cruising speed and/or carry containers and/or maintain higher availability it can in fact make more money.
The question is where the 319s will come from - are BA due any in the near future?
if a 319 can do more rotations due higher cruising speed and/or carry containers and/or maintain higher availability it can in fact make more money.
The question is where the 319s will come from - are BA due any in the near future?
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Fair point, but if BACX aren't filling an RJ100, why increase to a larger BA aircraft? I wouldn't think the passengers pay huge amounts either with most of their routes competed. Think BA have some options on the A319/20/21's. I really can't see it happening though. It'll prob be BACX with ERJ's D8's on doms etc, GB spain etc with BA doing LGW and LHR.
Fair point, but if BACX aren't filling an RJ100, why increase to a larger BA aircraft? I wouldn't think the passengers pay huge amounts either with most of their routes competed. Think BA have some options on the A319/20/21's. I really can't see it happening though. It'll prob be BACX with ERJ's D8's on doms etc, GB spain etc with BA doing LGW and LHR.
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Dash7 - we will soon "hear" that the RJ (not 146) will continue to serve 2 of the 3 routes you mention above!!!!
I doubt mainline will re-open a MAN base. They are already short of hulls/crews.
I doubt mainline will re-open a MAN base. They are already short of hulls/crews.
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The D-8s are (supposedly) leaving the fleet although there has been some recent doubt about it.
Let's face it, BA needs a raft of new NB aircraft to replace the 737s at LGW, the BCal 320s and the RJs. With the new A32x orders at BMed and GB, it's looking more likely that BA ShortHaul will contract and they will fill the void.
All this and Willie to come
(edited to note: 8 BA A32x orders extant - only one due before 2007).
The D-8s are (supposedly) leaving the fleet although there has been some recent doubt about it.
Let's face it, BA needs a raft of new NB aircraft to replace the 737s at LGW, the BCal 320s and the RJs. With the new A32x orders at BMed and GB, it's looking more likely that BA ShortHaul will contract and they will fill the void.
All this and Willie to come
(edited to note: 8 BA A32x orders extant - only one due before 2007).
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Just look how well GB are doing on routes like MLA and PFO, filling them daily and selling club seats as well. There are reasons why the business class passangers dont pay of the club service on a EMB or a ARJ......... Cause it aint a proper club service.
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(edited to note: 8 BA A32x orders extant - only one due before 2007).
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