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Old 15th Jul 2005, 12:58
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Nexus Airways Is Starting

Can't quite believe this, I thought they were just a joke, or a 12 year olds school project.

How long we gonna give it? Will it beat JetGreens week?

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Looks strange (schedule is made for Canary-based aircraft, and if it is a real airline and real schedule then it means this aircraft will be doing an empty positioning across the islands every night. Also flight numbers are not identified) for an airline.

Wait for 22nd of July and give them a call
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..... unless the flights originate in the Canaries with a Spanish aircraft.
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dwlpl, I think CargoOne's point is that on this schedule a positioning flight would need to be made on Monday night from LPA-TFS, Tues night from TFS-FUA, Weds night from FUA-ACE, Thurs night from ACE-TFS and over the weekend from TFS-LPA.
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I am presuming they are already on the island concerned which dictates the route flown for that particular day.
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No, that's the problem right there. They finish one day on island 1, and start up the next day on island 2 etc etc etc. So, they need to make positioning flights.
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Is it possible to get 170 pax on a 737-400? And if full, are there range issues? (I don't know LPL runway details).
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Sounds like another " Air Scandic" to me!:uhoh

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No, that's the problem right there. They finish one day on island 1, and start up the next day on island 2 etc etc etc. So, they need to make positioning flights.
If Nexus use Spanish airlines, that airline might have an aircraft based on each island so

The LPA aircraft could operate the LPA flight
The FUE aircraft could operate the FUE flight
The ACE aircraft could operate the ACE flight
The TFS aircraft could operate the TFS flights

This would avoid the need for positioning flights
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Then again what would be the cost of a single 10 to 15 min daily inter-island positioning flight? What price fuel, landing charges (empty) etc., in the Canaries? The Spanish companies do quite a bit of positioning island hopping.
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Cool

Looks like a Futura operation
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Dont Futura provide aircraft to Budget Aer?
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Futura are advertising sub-leasing from November to March on their web site to other operators.
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OK, I also came to the idea that it can work with a Spanish aircraft which is involved in someone else operations and then used by Nexus at other time, this explaining Canary-based schedule and eleminating (probably) the need for positioning flights, but it can work only on a wetlease basis.

May be I'm wrong, but JAR regulations do not have the space for the creating of new airline (=AOC holder) using only wetleased capacity. It is possible for established operators, but not for the start-ups.

So, either Nexus is not an airline (not an AOC holder) but just a kind of ticketing agent / charterer or something is wrong with the schedules.

ps. The market is very tight. Empty positioning every night will kill any operation. Landing/handling/fuel and aircraft cycles are not cheap.
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One aircraft operation based in LPA

Monday
1310 LPA-LPL 1735
1820 LPL-LPA 2245

Tuesday
POSN LPA-TFS
0900 TFS-LPL 1325
1415 LPL-TFS 1845

Wednesday
POSN TFS-FUE
0900 FUE-LPL 1320
1410 LPL-FUE 1830

Thursday
POSN FUE-ACE
0900 ACE-LPL 1320
1410 LPL-ACE 1830

Friday
POSN ACE-TFS
0800 TFS-LPL 1225
1315 LPL-TFS 1745
POSN TFS-LPA

Saturday and Sunday = no flying apart from catch up !



I'll get my coat :uhoh
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Slight amendment to Bacardi Walla: my vote's for TFS as the base - that's a Futura line maintenance support base and someone will have to fix the snags occasionally (this of course assumes Futura is the operator, i.e. the actual airline as opposed to the tour operator/ticket agent/if-we-call-ourselves-an-airline-we-are-one )

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Schoolboy launches airline from his bedroom
2.20PM, Mon Jul 18 2005


An A-level student has launched a no-frills airline from his bedroom in Merseyside.

Daniel Reilly, 18, from Maghull, is thought to be the youngest chief executive of an airline in the world.

He was inspired to set up Nexus Airlines after completing a school project on low-cost airlines. He is currently leasing a Boeing 737 plane from Futura International Airlines, based in Palma.

The teenager said: "I started flying lessons when I was 16 and my friends started joking about us buying a plane together and flying people around the world. It was just a joke really but I took it a bit more seriously and decided to look into it.

"I've always been interested in aviation so I decided to do my A-Level business studies project on setting up an airline. I called round a few airlines and asked how they had done it and I slowly realised it was quite achievable."

Daniel, who attends Deyes High School in Maghull, showed his project to a financial adviser who found backers for the business.

Initially the airline will operate services from Liverpool John Lennon Airport to Tenerife, Gran Canaria, Lanzarote and Fuerteventura from its new headquarters in Bradford, West Yorkshire.

Customers will be able to book flights - which cost from £50 one-way - from Friday, with the first flights taking off on November 1 this year.

In the meantime, the new airline chief is awaiting the results of his A levels in Business Studies, English Language, Sociology and General Studies.

He said: "Most of my school friends are now going off to university but I'm in charge of an airline.

"I don't know if I will be the next Richard Branson but I certainly wouldn't say no."

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Has anyone met the new no-frills with the very young CEO???

See here,


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050718/356/fnkw2.html

double take was called for and i'm still stunned.....
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Cool

These "student" owned airlines are a perennial novelty news item.

Here's another recent example:

Jig Is Up For Internet Airline

BOSTON, June 13, 2003


Authorities in two states say a college freshman in Massachusetts created a fake airline that offered bargain-priced tickets on flights between Honolulu and Los Angeles.

Massachusetts Attorney General Thomas Reilly says Luke Thompson, of Yardley, Pa., incorporated Mainline Airways in Pennsylvania, established a business address in the Boston suburb of Wellesley and set up an elaborate Web site to sell tickets.

Reilly says Thompson, who attends Babson College in Wellesley, offered fares as low as $89 one way between Los Angeles and Honolulu. Flights were supposed to begin July 3, but as recently as a few weeks ago, Mainline had neither planes, crews nor the required permits and approvals.

Thompson told The Associated Press that the allegations are "absolutely untrue," but he did acknowledge that he is the only person behind the company, other than a consultant and an investor he did not identify.

"We had every intention of doing this operation," he said. "We had 15 airlines we had contacted or were in serious negotiations with, regarding the actual providing of the (air) service."

He offered no details on which airlines were involved.

Thompson's Web site, which has been taken down, described the company's "fleet," outlined various policies and answered travelers' questions.

Reilly won a temporary restraining order Wednesday that keeps Thompson from using any Mainline bank accounts for anything other than providing refunds. A judge in Hawaii last week ordered ticket sales halted.

Thompson faxed letters earlier this week to Hawaii officials, promising refunds by the end of the week to 120 "pre-reservations" and maintaining that Mainline Airways was "only to be the tour operator."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in558484.shtml

__________________________________________

June 19, 2003

Making Money In Aviation

By Mary Grady
Newswriter

How to make money in the airplane biz has challenged generations, but one young entrepreneur in Boston has come up with a new take. The Boston Globe reports that an 18-year-old business student at Babson College started his own airline, complete with a Web site, called Mainline Airways, offering leather seats with personal TVs, affordable first class, and round trips from LA to Honolulu for under $200. The only trouble was, no such airline ever existed. Last week, the Massachusetts attorney general suggested to freshman Luke Thompson that he would be wise to cease and desist -- and he should also refrain from withdrawing any money from his bank accounts. ''In effect, [Thompson] has been grounded,'' Mass. Atty. Gen. Thomas Reilly told reporters last week. "Our investigation indicates that this was not a legitimate business, a legitimate airline. ... It had no planes and no pilots.''

http://www.avweb.com/newswire/9_25b/.../185195-1.html
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it did sound pretty funked up...
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