Nexus Airways Is Starting (Merged)

[Nakata77]

Just heard Daniel being interviewed on Radio One and he certainly sounds like he's got his head screwed on, albeit letting it slip that he's a red fan and thus destroying any hopes of 40% of Liverpool using his airline.

I wish him all the best because it sounds like he is being used as a puppet on a string by the guys with the dosh behind him. He obviously wouldnt know the last thing about running the operational side of things so he is just a marketing figure head...one that will attract the headlines.

[jmc757]

Only 50K huh? I presume that this covers setting up the werbsite and the call centre, and some kind of downpayment to Futura. So is he totally relying on pax revenue (and whatever is left out of that 50K) to actually pay Futura to roll a 737 down LPL runway in November?

[huggybear]

Yep I heard from someone tody that it's only 50k and that he is relying on revenue from ticket sales. I just can't see it working unless he is getting 95% loads on all of his flights.

[DDF]

As far as I know only airlines with an AOC can charter using ACMI. He will have to pay full charter prices to cover all the costs. Futura will take the money up front.
It’s basically the same as the football charter flights they rent an aircraft and sell seats to supporters if the fill them all they make a profit if they don’t they loose money very simple business.... If it was that easy all the holiday companies would do it...

[IB4138]

Isn't this type of operation all too familiar?

There was an operator in Glasgow many moons ago, who tried the same thing. One day the operating airline were not paid in advance for the flight and the aircraft didn't show. No bonds in place to bail punters out!

This type of operation these days will immediately be under scrutiny with money laundering checking regulations.

[Buster the Bear]

According to the interview, he is starting the airline with £40k in the bank.

HaHaHaHaHaHa, what a wind up, has anyone actually asked Futura if they have an impending contract with Nexus?

If starting an airline was that simple, even bears would join in.

Can one actually legally REALLY start an airline with just £40k?

www.busterjet.CON

[san miguel]

futura are not exactly a low cost operation, they have been looking for a way to direct sell for several seasons, this is just another way of trying to get out of the charter black hole they have found themselves in. wonder what the charter customers will make of it!!!!

[jmc757]

they have been looking for a way to direct sell for several seasons, this is just another way of trying to get out of the charter black hole they have found themselves in. wonder what the charter customers will make of it!!!!

Futura aren't direct selling here. This is just another charter. Nexus have chartered Futura to fly a series of flights for them. Same as many of the tour operators do. They advertise such services on their website .

They already sell direct on a few schedueld services, via their website and booking agencies.

[san miguel]

if its another charter whose ATOL are they using????

[jmc757]

They're not! This is the genius part. There is a loophole in the ATOL system. The offcicial word from Nexus is that:

"ATOL's are required by companies taking money and issuing the passengers ticket at a later date, all our passengers will receive their ticket the moment that they book"

Air Scotland used a similar loophole when they started selling seats on Electra Airways/Air Holland flights.

[Buster the Bear]

Luton based Travel Extras has secured a partnership deal to offer its extras product portfolio to passengers of the newly launched low-cost Nexus Airways. Nexus Airways will commence Canary Island flights out of Liverpool’s John Lennon Airport.

[BoeingMEL]

the truth..the latest...

Ppruners may wish to learn that Nexus expressly does NOT have an aircraft from Futura.... nor do they expect to supply one. Indeed Futura have been embarrassed and upset by media claims.

No arrangements are in place in the Canaries for pax handling, fuel, catering, engineering etc

A senior spokesman at Liverpool called the Airport's view of the alleged operation as " guarded and sceptical". No formal arrangements have been completed or finalised at LPL for ANY services or facilities.

Despite the Nexus website providing a phone number, it is permanently answered by an ansafone. Emails go unanswered.

Those who question these high-profile so-called launches are often criticised in these pages.... but more often than not are proven 100% right.

So, no plane, no pax, no booking facility, no ground facilities, no evidence of any official approval, permit or documentation, and an alleged £50k to kick-off with! It doesn't stack up does it? bm

[goldeneye]

TTG had an article in last weeks issue about this airline, The TTG called the airline and spoke to the founder Daniel Reilly who told them they are taking bookings for travel from november, and said that they planned to get an Atol licence.
TTG also spoke to the CAA who said there has been no application from them, and that it is the CAA's undersatanding that they are not taking payments for bookings, as they cant take payment for bookings. Make of that what you will.

[PPRuNe Pop]

This thread is closed!

[TimS]

Errrr don't think so (but wouldn't argue that it should be) !

[PPRuNe Pop]

Thank you TimS. It is now.