BA777 drivers to Harare.

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Can any of you confirm a route as below contains a gap of 800 NM's plus between GARIN via G655D to ONUDA, or are there further waypoints in between?

MID UN615 XAMAB UL612 MILPA UM730 VANAS UM623 ALG UM731 FARES UG655 SEB G655D ELGAN G655D GARIN G655D ONUDA UG655G MERON UG655 LUB UA406 VND UA607 AVIVA UA607 VSB

Many thanks.

Mark.

[enicalyth]

Missing Link

Hmmmm...

Are you sure about this Mark?

Your missing link is:

GARIN Brg nm
155 121
ILDOR
155 177
FLU
159 190
KINTU
158 73.5
KOBLA
158 36.4
ARBEG
160 67.2
XULAK
160 54.1
BULGO
160 113
IRAGA
160 88.9
ONUDA

Have you consulted cram@ecacnav?

Have you registered with www.ais.org.uk for international data?

Have you looked at https://164.214.2.62/products/digitalaero/index.cfm
go to ERCs and download AFR and ENAME as required.

I think Birdseed 777-236 jockeys may be confused, FVHA??

[Hotel Mode]

Theres also lots of waypoints between XAMAB and MILPA on UL612 etc an ATC flightplan wont include all waypoints. just changes of airway/FIR

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I am told that this plan;

MID UN615 XAMAB UL612 MILPA UM730 VANAS UM623 ALG UM731 FARES UG65 5 SEB G655D ELGAN G655D GARIN UG655 ONUDA UG655G MERON UG655 LUB UA406 VND UA607 AVIVA UA607 VSB

was in fact the plan filed with ATC last week?

Not too sure what I'm supposed to be sure of?

I am a member of AIS.

Don't know what cram@ecacnav is?

I presume that ERC's are En-Route Charts?

Why would 777 jockey's be confused?

EFR & ENAME?


Thanks.

Mark.

[head_girl]

cram@ecacnav

Good Morning,

May I help?

cram@ecacnav is the conditional route availability menu (monitor?) which is a download from eurocontrol. for example the route you have cited could be shortened if the section VALKU-OLRAK-->ALG, a CDR1, is open. You would then follow your route as far as RESMI and rejoin it at ALG possibly saving significant time and fuel. This CDR1 or conditional route status 1 (1 meaning highest likelihood of availability on a scale 1-3) the revised portion would then read:

UN857-RESMI DEKOD DISAK DEPOM DIRMO-UN855-DIRMO-ETAMO-VALKU(CDR1 starts) OLRAK-UM731-OLRAK AMLIR FJR DIVKO TINOT BALOK-LARAP NEMUR REKTO RISGA (CDR1 finishes) ALG

LHR-HRE is a B772 route so no one should be confused. Not one I'd bid for though and therefore guess one of your correspondents has "knowledge" that the rest of us probably are happy not to have had.

As to the rest ENAME is Europe, North Africa and Middle-East chart coverage. I've forgotten your other query, EFR or AFR? AFR is ditto for Africa. If you subscribe to the free, unclassified US DoD AIRAC cycles you download these off the net. (Some wunderkind in the states has the temerity to take these free, unclassified, ICAO originated data, stick his name and a copyright on it and offer it to simmers when it's actually there all the time for genuine use).

Best of luck with your flight to HRE.

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Thanks head-girl,

Yes, I was a little confused myself about the questioning of the B772 on the routing, knowing it ops it

What is the website for eurocontrol please?

I keep getting a Russian site

Thanks again.

Mark.

[head_girl]

try these

http://www.eurocontrol.int

http://cram.ecacnav.com/

http://www.eurocontrol.int/ais/skyview2/