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Understand LTN-DNR is only withdrawn for the winter and will be back in March, unlike EBJ which seems to have gone for good.
STN-FNI ends 29 Oct but LTN-FNI continues throughout the winter. So are ryan going to reduce LTN to 3 based aircraft or are other routes in the pipeline ?
Noticed LTN's website has been down for over 24 hrs. Is it being revamped or just faulty. Or worse, am I the only one to experience the problem. Needed flight arrival last night when going to pick up a relative. No ceefax as sky.
Understand LTN-DNR is only withdrawn for the winter and will be back in March, unlike EBJ which seems to have gone for good.
STN-FNI ends 29 Oct but LTN-FNI continues throughout the winter. So are ryan going to reduce LTN to 3 based aircraft or are other routes in the pipeline ?
Noticed LTN's website has been down for over 24 hrs. Is it being revamped or just faulty. Or worse, am I the only one to experience the problem. Needed flight arrival last night when going to pick up a relative. No ceefax as sky.
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Did anyone watch the last episode of the ITV London series London Luton Airport? It was interesting to see the finished new departure lounge and the panic to get it open on time.
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I missed it. Damn being late work ...
Surprised they didn't pull, it what with "the events that have happened in the UK today" ... that was the reason they pulled CSI on Five ....
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Surprised they didn't pull, it what with "the events that have happened in the UK today" ... that was the reason they pulled CSI on Five ....
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"Surprised they didn't pull, it what with "the events that have happened in the UK today" ... that was the reason they pulled CSI on Five ...."
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Not sure what your point is here.
There would be no reason to withdraw the transmission. A documentary about the opening of an Airport Terminal facility is an entirely different thing from a crime series which majors on (gory) forensic investigation of crime.
Was it the word 'Luton' that might offend?
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"Surprised they didn't pull, it what with "the events that have happened in the UK today" ... that was the reason they pulled CSI on Five ...."
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Not sure what your point is here.
There would be no reason to withdraw the transmission. A documentary about the opening of an Airport Terminal facility is an entirely different thing from a crime series which majors on (gory) forensic investigation of crime.
Was it the word 'Luton' that might offend?
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Ryan still have four early departures with same timings, one for each based aircraft, bookable for the winter. No change from this summer. Therefore, unless further changes are to take place, it would imply, with the loss of DNR & EBJ in Oct, further new/substitute routes are in the pipeline, with four or more aircraft.
We shall have to wait and see.
Also Helvetic have changed their evening flight to a morning flight.
Arrives LTN @ 08.50 ex ZRH, departs LTN for ZRH @09.30. M-F. wef 31/10/05
We shall have to wait and see.
Also Helvetic have changed their evening flight to a morning flight.
Arrives LTN @ 08.50 ex ZRH, departs LTN for ZRH @09.30. M-F. wef 31/10/05
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I see that Ryanair have announced yet more new routes from Stansted today. The airline also said it would announce the closure of three to four routes at the end of August. O' Leary said this happens either when loads aren't sufficient and therefore fares aren't viable, or when airports aren't meeting their turnaround targets. The closures will be effective Oct. 31.
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BIMEY! I used to call it the 'Tinminal', it must now be known as 'Plaster Board Land'! If there is a shortage of the stuff, you will find plenty along the faceless walls that are the security check and the LONG winding route to the lowest numbered gates. Remind me to pinch a picnic or two next time I set off from the new retail area en-route to the Ryanair gates! I understand that this trek is likely to become an Olympic sport in time for 2012!
I am a bit confused, and need some help? The new retail area does not appear to be any bigger than the old, is it really larger? It certainly is brighter, but then you leave the light behind walking, and walking and walking to Gate1. Plenty of badly fitting Plaster Board to view on your trek!
I was hoping for a real step forward and I am sure the remote gates are required, but it aint a nice experience walking from retail to gate with Buster Mum and Buster-Ette. It needs a few pictures, posters, anything that is not PLASTER BOARD! (And automatic fire doors with a push chair!)
Anyway, the loads too and from Shannon were......60 and 50% and if I thought being inside Plaster Board Land was hot, the cheap new gates at Shannon were roasting!
My final impression is that whilst the local football team has been promoted, the revamped 'Tinminal' has been relegated to match the low cost facilities at Stansted......Progress eh! (And lacking the train to the gates!)
Lithuania by Wizz......Sounds interesting. If I start walking now, I might make it to the gate in time for the first flight in December!
I am a bit confused, and need some help? The new retail area does not appear to be any bigger than the old, is it really larger? It certainly is brighter, but then you leave the light behind walking, and walking and walking to Gate1. Plenty of badly fitting Plaster Board to view on your trek!
I was hoping for a real step forward and I am sure the remote gates are required, but it aint a nice experience walking from retail to gate with Buster Mum and Buster-Ette. It needs a few pictures, posters, anything that is not PLASTER BOARD! (And automatic fire doors with a push chair!)
Anyway, the loads too and from Shannon were......60 and 50% and if I thought being inside Plaster Board Land was hot, the cheap new gates at Shannon were roasting!
My final impression is that whilst the local football team has been promoted, the revamped 'Tinminal' has been relegated to match the low cost facilities at Stansted......Progress eh! (And lacking the train to the gates!)
Lithuania by Wizz......Sounds interesting. If I start walking now, I might make it to the gate in time for the first flight in December!
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Eddie - that is exactly my point ... I was (at the time of posting) extremely peeved that they had pulled CSI, especially as this week's ep had nothing to do with bombs or explosives, and was making a rather unsubtle point about the word Luton.
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My final impression is that whilst the local football team has been promoted, the revamped 'Tinminal' has been relegated to match the low cost facilities at Stansted
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4 times the size....really, well if you are talking cubic volume I would agree. Actual floor space four times what it previously was, NO WAY!
Actually, I agree, no seats!
My memory of our trip though Luton is:
Am I going though security or entering a prison?
Flippin heck it is hot in here and even hotter near Pret!
Small shops, very few seats. HOT!
Plaster board walk to gate.
Olympic sport. Walk from Retail to Gate 1!
BLIMEY what a disaster baggage re-claim is, no change in the last 15 years!
Overall, I was expecting a positive experience, sadly Luton now resembles Stansted. £35 million..........on Plaster board!
My first ever negative post about Luton, but made as a customer! OUCH this HURTS!
Luton has finally become a low cost airport. YUK!
Actually, I agree, no seats!
My memory of our trip though Luton is:
Am I going though security or entering a prison?
Flippin heck it is hot in here and even hotter near Pret!
Small shops, very few seats. HOT!
Plaster board walk to gate.
Olympic sport. Walk from Retail to Gate 1!
BLIMEY what a disaster baggage re-claim is, no change in the last 15 years!
Overall, I was expecting a positive experience, sadly Luton now resembles Stansted. £35 million..........on Plaster board!
My first ever negative post about Luton, but made as a customer! OUCH this HURTS!
Luton has finally become a low cost airport. YUK!
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I hear the air conditioning should be working in time for the autumn. If you think the lounge is hot just be thankful that you are not a shop worker working in one of the shops back offices. Now that is real heat.
Baggage reclaim is getting a makeover this year in phase 3. Phase 4 I believe is the drop off area
Baggage reclaim is getting a makeover this year in phase 3. Phase 4 I believe is the drop off area
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Have to agree with Buster re the new departure lounge.
Have been through it twice in the last 10 days, the first time at 6.00am on 1 July, the morning it opened. Chaos !!! Whilst the main area has a bright, modern appeal, and is a considerable improvement, lack of seating is a major problem. On my second trip, three days ago, at 6.30am, we simply could not find one spare seat that was not food related. The place was heaving, so had to buy a drink just to grab a seat of about 10 left. The heat was oppressive.
The walk down to gates 1 - 11 was unbelievable although when catching the wizz flight from the new pier, it was very quick. The long walk to the easyjet gates, passing through endless firedoors and grey, faceless plaster board panels was not a pleasant experience. Indeed my wife said, she expected to see airport staff at regular intervals handing out water to assist the passengers on this marathon trek to the gate. Definately not good. Is this always going to be like this. Is no "short cut" possible when all the other works have been finished ?
As for the baggage reclaim, Ugh!. The whole thing needs knocking down and being completely rebuilt, not just a makeover.
To summarize, the new departure lounge is definately an improvement but some extra seating is badly needed. If you are departing from gates 1 - 11, which covers most easy & ryan flights, then you are at a major disadvantage when compared to the old departure lounge.
Have been through it twice in the last 10 days, the first time at 6.00am on 1 July, the morning it opened. Chaos !!! Whilst the main area has a bright, modern appeal, and is a considerable improvement, lack of seating is a major problem. On my second trip, three days ago, at 6.30am, we simply could not find one spare seat that was not food related. The place was heaving, so had to buy a drink just to grab a seat of about 10 left. The heat was oppressive.
The walk down to gates 1 - 11 was unbelievable although when catching the wizz flight from the new pier, it was very quick. The long walk to the easyjet gates, passing through endless firedoors and grey, faceless plaster board panels was not a pleasant experience. Indeed my wife said, she expected to see airport staff at regular intervals handing out water to assist the passengers on this marathon trek to the gate. Definately not good. Is this always going to be like this. Is no "short cut" possible when all the other works have been finished ?
As for the baggage reclaim, Ugh!. The whole thing needs knocking down and being completely rebuilt, not just a makeover.
To summarize, the new departure lounge is definately an improvement but some extra seating is badly needed. If you are departing from gates 1 - 11, which covers most easy & ryan flights, then you are at a major disadvantage when compared to the old departure lounge.
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One of the problems with painted plasterboard walls is that they get scuffed easily and thus look naff after only a few days use. Would have thought that some sort of plastic type sheeting that is wipe cleanable would be a better solution.
The existing pier, which is only around 3 year old, feels small and narrow compared to the new pier. Also it was not built with the future in mind as gates 15-19 now face the wrong way with passengers having to look over their shoulders to see the gates. This is something that can’t be fixed now without a major rebuild so I guess it will never happen.
As for a lack of seating this could be all part of the master plan to spend passengers money. As Powerjet has already found out he had to buy a drink to get a seat. Cunning plan me thinks.
It’s going to be 90 degrees today at LTN. I wonder what temperature it is going to be under the glass roof. Just hope they can get the air- conditioning online sooner rather than later.
The existing pier, which is only around 3 year old, feels small and narrow compared to the new pier. Also it was not built with the future in mind as gates 15-19 now face the wrong way with passengers having to look over their shoulders to see the gates. This is something that can’t be fixed now without a major rebuild so I guess it will never happen.
As for a lack of seating this could be all part of the master plan to spend passengers money. As Powerjet has already found out he had to buy a drink to get a seat. Cunning plan me thinks.
It’s going to be 90 degrees today at LTN. I wonder what temperature it is going to be under the glass roof. Just hope they can get the air- conditioning online sooner rather than later.
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Bomb attacks hit Ryanair bookings
By Michael Harrison
14 July 2005
The number of passengers booking Ryanair flights to London has fallen dramatically since last week's bomb attacks on the capital's Tube and bus system, the no-frills airline disclosed yesterday.
Reservations are estimated to be down by up to a third since the four suicide bombers struck last Thursday. Ryanair said that at this time of year it normally sold about 100,000 flights a day. Since last Thursday, bookings had fallen by around 8,000 a day. The airline said it believed a large amount of this decline was accounted for by passengers deciding not to book flights to London from mainland Europe and elsewhere in the UK.
The three London airports of Stansted, Gatwick and Luton account for about 35 per cent of Ryanair's total traffic with 15-20 per cent of those passengers originating from other airports.
Michael O'Leary, Ryanair's chief executive, said that if bookings followed the same pattern as after the Madrid and Bali bombings, then ticket sales would have returned to normal by the end of the week, provided there were no fresh terrorist attacks.
But in an effort to counter any lasting slowdown, Ryanair has brought forward its annual autumn ticket sale by a month, offering 3 million tickets into and out of London at £1 or €1 plus taxes for August, September and October. The 2 million in-bound and 1 million outbound tickets will account for about a third of Ryanair's seats over the period, although with the airline largely booked up for the next month, passengers will not be able to take advantage of the cut-price fares until the last fortnight in August.
Mr O'Leary said: "It's important we keep Britain flying and, more importantly, keep visitors coming to London. Generally, the best time to visit anywhere is after a terrorist attack because the hotels are discounting like mad and the place is crawling with security. I doubt if London has ever been safer than it is today."
The rival low-cost airline EasyJet, which relies on in-bound passengers to London for a quarter of its traffic, said it had decided to take a "long hard look" at the situation before making any public statement, adding that an announcement on bookings would probably have to wait a few days yet.
BAA, the owner of Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted, is not thought to have experienced any significant drop in passenger numbers since last Thursday. But any decline in bookings would not show through in the form of reduced airport traffic for a number of weeks anyway.
Mr O'Leary said that the ticket offer and the decline in bookings so far witnessed had not led Ryanair to alter its guidance to the market for revenues and profits this year. But he then caused confusion by saying he expected average fares to fall by between 0 and 5 per cent this year, when the previous guidance had been that they would remain flat. Ryanair shares ended the day unchanged at €6.55.
Ryanair also announced that it is starting eight new routes into the UK this winter - four to Liverpool, two into London and one each into Newcastle and Glasgow. At the same time, it is planning to cut three or four routes out of its schedule, either because they are underperforming or because Ryanair cannot get satisfactory deals out of the airports involved. Mr O'Leary refused to say which services were under threat but he said that there were seven candidates, one of which was in the UK.
The airline, which expects to carry 35 million passengers in the 12 months to next April, is also due to announce two new bases in the next month, bringing the total to 16.
By Michael Harrison
14 July 2005
The number of passengers booking Ryanair flights to London has fallen dramatically since last week's bomb attacks on the capital's Tube and bus system, the no-frills airline disclosed yesterday.
Reservations are estimated to be down by up to a third since the four suicide bombers struck last Thursday. Ryanair said that at this time of year it normally sold about 100,000 flights a day. Since last Thursday, bookings had fallen by around 8,000 a day. The airline said it believed a large amount of this decline was accounted for by passengers deciding not to book flights to London from mainland Europe and elsewhere in the UK.
The three London airports of Stansted, Gatwick and Luton account for about 35 per cent of Ryanair's total traffic with 15-20 per cent of those passengers originating from other airports.
Michael O'Leary, Ryanair's chief executive, said that if bookings followed the same pattern as after the Madrid and Bali bombings, then ticket sales would have returned to normal by the end of the week, provided there were no fresh terrorist attacks.
But in an effort to counter any lasting slowdown, Ryanair has brought forward its annual autumn ticket sale by a month, offering 3 million tickets into and out of London at £1 or €1 plus taxes for August, September and October. The 2 million in-bound and 1 million outbound tickets will account for about a third of Ryanair's seats over the period, although with the airline largely booked up for the next month, passengers will not be able to take advantage of the cut-price fares until the last fortnight in August.
Mr O'Leary said: "It's important we keep Britain flying and, more importantly, keep visitors coming to London. Generally, the best time to visit anywhere is after a terrorist attack because the hotels are discounting like mad and the place is crawling with security. I doubt if London has ever been safer than it is today."
The rival low-cost airline EasyJet, which relies on in-bound passengers to London for a quarter of its traffic, said it had decided to take a "long hard look" at the situation before making any public statement, adding that an announcement on bookings would probably have to wait a few days yet.
BAA, the owner of Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted, is not thought to have experienced any significant drop in passenger numbers since last Thursday. But any decline in bookings would not show through in the form of reduced airport traffic for a number of weeks anyway.
Mr O'Leary said that the ticket offer and the decline in bookings so far witnessed had not led Ryanair to alter its guidance to the market for revenues and profits this year. But he then caused confusion by saying he expected average fares to fall by between 0 and 5 per cent this year, when the previous guidance had been that they would remain flat. Ryanair shares ended the day unchanged at €6.55.
Ryanair also announced that it is starting eight new routes into the UK this winter - four to Liverpool, two into London and one each into Newcastle and Glasgow. At the same time, it is planning to cut three or four routes out of its schedule, either because they are underperforming or because Ryanair cannot get satisfactory deals out of the airports involved. Mr O'Leary refused to say which services were under threat but he said that there were seven candidates, one of which was in the UK.
The airline, which expects to carry 35 million passengers in the 12 months to next April, is also due to announce two new bases in the next month, bringing the total to 16.
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Well I am not complaining and we only paid £43 return for Mr Buster, Mrs Buster and Buster-Ette inclusive! GO THERE NOW as it is so cheap!
According to our taxi driver, Ryanair are rumoured to be getting financial assistance to aid re-generation.
A beautiful part of the world, with a golf course right on the climb out.
What really made the trip, was seeing N88ZL on the tarmac at Shannon!
According to our taxi driver, Ryanair are rumoured to be getting financial assistance to aid re-generation.
A beautiful part of the world, with a golf course right on the climb out.
What really made the trip, was seeing N88ZL on the tarmac at Shannon!
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Should be plenty of material around for new stands, car parks and full parallel taxiway now? 
http://www.lutontoday.co.uk/ViewArti...icleID=1084277
'A big part of the building work will involve recycling as much of the former Vauxhall base as possible.
Concrete will be crushed and re-used, and the acres of tarmac will also be recycled.'
http://www.lutontoday.co.uk/ViewArti...icleID=1084277
'A big part of the building work will involve recycling as much of the former Vauxhall base as possible.
Concrete will be crushed and re-used, and the acres of tarmac will also be recycled.'
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See that a large, rather cheap & tacky looking TUI advert has found its way onto the entrance tunnel adverting space. " Thomsom welcomes you to London Luton Airport"
I thought the airport wanted to distance itself from the old holiday charter airport image which this conveys. Perhaps TUI were the only company prepared to pay the astronomical charges involved. Vodaphone, with their advert over the tunnel exit, in the CTA, at least looks businesslike.
I thought the airport wanted to distance itself from the old holiday charter airport image which this conveys. Perhaps TUI were the only company prepared to pay the astronomical charges involved. Vodaphone, with their advert over the tunnel exit, in the CTA, at least looks businesslike.