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Understand the new owners are working their butts off in many areas at the present time. The next 6 to 12 months could be very interesting at LTN
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Following on from all the publicity that occured with the official opening of the 'new departure lounge', which included a visit from Mr Darling MP and other local lesser MP's. In the background was a Spanish representitive of ACDL.
I would suggest that the Spanish are doing quite a lot of work relating to Luton in the background. One aspect I would guess, is to extend the length of the concession remaining with LBC to make the massive investment necessary, work for the consortium over a longer period.
If anyone had suggested to me 10 years ago that Luton would be shifting 10 million plus pax per year, I would have told them that they were becoming insane, so I will not hazard to guess just what the next 10 years might bring!
You might even see the short-term car park re-surfaced!
I would suggest that the Spanish are doing quite a lot of work relating to Luton in the background. One aspect I would guess, is to extend the length of the concession remaining with LBC to make the massive investment necessary, work for the consortium over a longer period.
If anyone had suggested to me 10 years ago that Luton would be shifting 10 million plus pax per year, I would have told them that they were becoming insane, so I will not hazard to guess just what the next 10 years might bring!
You might even see the short-term car park re-surfaced!
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August movement figures will be subdued, just like every previous August, due to the lack of Business Jet activity. September will however, be a key indicator?
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Can't be much more than five years ago that Stansted was peaking at 400 movements a day whilst Luton was peaking at 200 - how times have changed!
The combined daily movement peaks for Stansted and Luton must now outweigh Gatwick.
The combined daily movement peaks for Stansted and Luton must now outweigh Gatwick.
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Based on the CAA stats for the last 12 months, LGW had 249,645 movements, while LTN had 72,240 & STN 177,645, Total 249,890. So yes, combined , LTN & STN movements have overtaken LGW -just.
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Not all of LTN’s executive jets movements show in CAA stats. I know it is not very scientific but if LTN was averaging 329 movements a day in the first week in July that makes it around 119,759 movements per 364 day year excluding Christmas. If Vintage ATCO’s average figures are used that would make it 131,040. I guess Gatwick doesn’t get that many non airline movements so their figure is correct.
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Luton's actual annual movements on a rolling basis are currently approx 95,000 - this figure includes all corporate/GA flights and all helicopter movements (corporate and the Luton-based Chiltern Air Support Unit).
Stansted also handles a significant number of corporate/GA flights (although not as many as Luton).
Therefore, the combined rolling total for Luton and Stansted is probably in the region of 280,000 which is certainly more than Gatwick.
If growth continues albeit, at a more modest pace, the combined annual total could reach +/- 300,000 (i.e. Luton 100,000 and Stansted 200,000) by the end of 2006.
By which time of course, the local NIMBYs (many of whom admit to flying from both airports...) will decidedly
off!!!
Stansted also handles a significant number of corporate/GA flights (although not as many as Luton).
Therefore, the combined rolling total for Luton and Stansted is probably in the region of 280,000 which is certainly more than Gatwick.
If growth continues albeit, at a more modest pace, the combined annual total could reach +/- 300,000 (i.e. Luton 100,000 and Stansted 200,000) by the end of 2006.
By which time of course, the local NIMBYs (many of whom admit to flying from both airports...) will decidedly
off!!!
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Rumour on the grapevine is that ACDL are looking to buy land at Jct 10 M1, money no object and want the facilities that it will bring in place by the London Olympics. ACDL rumoured to be on a huge land purchase trail!
Talk of land being exchanged for the 'old' Vauxhall site.
Not too sure where this leaves the 'Homeless Hatter's' whose new stadium was bound for Jct10?
This would seem to fit in with the new runway in place by 2012? Our Spanish friends seem to have some deep pockets?
Talk of land being exchanged for the 'old' Vauxhall site.
Not too sure where this leaves the 'Homeless Hatter's' whose new stadium was bound for Jct10?
This would seem to fit in with the new runway in place by 2012? Our Spanish friends seem to have some deep pockets?
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Must be a wind up!.
As I understand it, development of the old Vauxhall site, plans for which have now been made public, include provision for a Premium Car Park for the airport, on a small part of the land. The rest will be for housing, high tech industrial units & 5 star hotel etc.
Luton Town FC are due any day now, to unveil their stadium plans for Jct 10 with the proposed developer, which was initially for a brand new 15,000 seater, but due to their early success in the Championship, is now likely to be modified to 20,000 with provision to increase to 25,000. Should be ready for the start of the 2007 season.
Of course, we all know things change don't we!!!!!!!!
If just a small proportion of the discussions currently taking place between ACDL & various parties come off, 10m pax by Nov/Dec 2006 is virtually guaranteed, Could be even slightly more.
As I understand it, development of the old Vauxhall site, plans for which have now been made public, include provision for a Premium Car Park for the airport, on a small part of the land. The rest will be for housing, high tech industrial units & 5 star hotel etc.
Luton Town FC are due any day now, to unveil their stadium plans for Jct 10 with the proposed developer, which was initially for a brand new 15,000 seater, but due to their early success in the Championship, is now likely to be modified to 20,000 with provision to increase to 25,000. Should be ready for the start of the 2007 season.
Of course, we all know things change don't we!!!!!!!!
If just a small proportion of the discussions currently taking place between ACDL & various parties come off, 10m pax by Nov/Dec 2006 is virtually guaranteed, Could be even slightly more.
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This is from page 5 of this thread but worth repeating here
ENVIRONMENTALISTS fear a group of developers and landowners have joined with
Luton Airport operators to pressure for building on Green Belt land near
Harpenden.
The group, calling itself the South East Luton Strategic Alliance (Selsa),
owns or has option to buy land stretching from East Hyde to Breachwood Green
and as far as Offley.
London Luton Airport has joined with local landowners and developers to
promote the Selsa concept of planned and phased development linked with
enhanced and new transport infrastructure on land either side of the airport
to the south and east of Luton.
"SELSA is based on the simple idea of using existing transport links and
others which are planned in a combined and co-ordinated fashion".
A spokesman for Luton Borough Council said it was not part of the alliance,
but confirmed that the developers involved are Legal and General, Bloor
Homes, Crown Estates, Newcomb Estates, New Road Limited and Redway
ENVIRONMENTALISTS fear a group of developers and landowners have joined with
Luton Airport operators to pressure for building on Green Belt land near
Harpenden.
The group, calling itself the South East Luton Strategic Alliance (Selsa),
owns or has option to buy land stretching from East Hyde to Breachwood Green
and as far as Offley.
London Luton Airport has joined with local landowners and developers to
promote the Selsa concept of planned and phased development linked with
enhanced and new transport infrastructure on land either side of the airport
to the south and east of Luton.
"SELSA is based on the simple idea of using existing transport links and
others which are planned in a combined and co-ordinated fashion".
A spokesman for Luton Borough Council said it was not part of the alliance,
but confirmed that the developers involved are Legal and General, Bloor
Homes, Crown Estates, Newcomb Estates, New Road Limited and Redway
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Noticed that all the new Thomsonfly spanish destinations to be operated under the new frequent shuttle service, starting May 06, seem to have 1 hour turnarounds. Does this mean that the fourth based aircraft at LTN next summer will automatically be a 757 to intermix with other charter services?.
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I was told that the housing on the Vauxhall site might not happen due to its 'brown field' origins and the costs to clean it up? That could leave room for alternative development from the original planning application?
Whatever the outcome, ACDL (Abertis) have been mentioned in association with the land destined for the stadium and anciliary developments at Jct 10.
The announcement about the new stadium was scheduled for last week and has been delayed again.
Whatever the outcome, ACDL (Abertis) have been mentioned in association with the land destined for the stadium and anciliary developments at Jct 10.
The announcement about the new stadium was scheduled for last week and has been delayed again.
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I see someone managed to wreck one of the airports shiny newish 4 wheel drive vehicles last week. It looks like it ended up on its roof after it rolled over and was covered in clumps of grass and mud. I guess some of those grass embankments around the perimeter track are steeper than they look.
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Lots of rumours circulating on the various Luton Town FC web forums relating to LBC, Abertis, M1 Jct 10, LTFC's new ground, and the empty Vauxhall site!
Soccer fans talking about Abertis from LTFC dealings with the consortium planning a new ground, and discussions with LBC.
Smoke....Fire......!! Just reporting what is being said elsewhere!
Soccer fans talking about Abertis from LTFC dealings with the consortium planning a new ground, and discussions with LBC.
Smoke....Fire......!! Just reporting what is being said elsewhere!
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If just a small proportion of the discussions currently taking place between ACDL & various parties come off, 10m pax by Nov/Dec 2006 is virtually guaranteed, Could be even slightly more
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I cannot see Luton Borough Council capping the passengers numbers using the existing facilities, think of all those concession fees that they would miss out on!
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Wizz have now commenced flights between Luton & Poznan and have already announced an extra flight. Taken from their website.....
'The first full flight arrived from London Luton airport at 7 pm local time with 180 passengers on board. The first flights are up to 100% booked and forecast indicate over 80% loadfactor for the next 3 months.
Initially Poznań is served by four flights a week, but due to a very strong demand for Wizz Air’s Poznan-London Luton service more flights will be added already in winter. Starting from 1 December, the airline will increase its capacity by 25% adding its fifth flight per week. Announcement on further routes to be launched early 2006 will be made shortly'.
'The first full flight arrived from London Luton airport at 7 pm local time with 180 passengers on board. The first flights are up to 100% booked and forecast indicate over 80% loadfactor for the next 3 months.
Initially Poznań is served by four flights a week, but due to a very strong demand for Wizz Air’s Poznan-London Luton service more flights will be added already in winter. Starting from 1 December, the airline will increase its capacity by 25% adding its fifth flight per week. Announcement on further routes to be launched early 2006 will be made shortly'.