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In view of Air Wales packing schedule flying up towards the end of next month/ will they be getting these Dashs a lot quicker??
Good for the Westcountry but not for the Welsh.
In view of Air Wales packing schedule flying up towards the end of next month/ will they be getting these Dashs a lot quicker??
Good for the Westcountry but not for the Welsh.
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Originally Posted by GBALU53
WOWBOY
In view of Air Wales packing schedule flying up towards the end of next month/ will they be getting these Dashs a lot quicker??
Good for the Westcountry but not for the Welsh.
In view of Air Wales packing schedule flying up towards the end of next month/ will they be getting these Dashs a lot quicker??
Good for the Westcountry but not for the Welsh.
WOWBOY -If you are trying to say Newquay to Cork is a viable route I would love to know what you base that assumption on. 35 years commercial experience tells me it would never have stood a cat in hell's chance!
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Originally Posted by GBALU53
Air Southwest could do a Dan Air.
Opperate Plymouth-Jersey-Bristol-Cardiff-Bristol-Jersey-Plymouth or a combination part there of???
Opperate Plymouth-Jersey-Bristol-Cardiff-Bristol-Jersey-Plymouth or a combination part there of???
In the days of Brymon (BA franchise) one of the daily CDG flights from BRS used to route via PLH and JER. It was a bit of a non-musical mystery tour for some unsuspecting pax from BRS going all the way to CDG.
It may be that WOW, or someone else, are trying to work out a way of serving JER from CWL.
Not strictly appropriate to this thread but your mentioning Dan Air reminded me that IMO one of the many mistakes Air Wales made was in not following the precedents of previous Welsh-based carriers like Cambrian Airways, and in later days of Airways International Cymru and Inter European in the charter field, of flying out of BRS as well as CWL, on some routes serving both, as you have suggested.
Air Wales could have had a thriving network out of BRS before the likes of Air Southwest, Aer Arann and Eastern got in there.
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I do know where you are coming from.
The good old days if i remember where there was timed trials in the Viscount from Bristol to Cardiff in the very good old days when Cambrian operated the Jersey-Bristol-Cardiff route.
They were the good old days before you know who took them under there wing.
If only we could turn the clock back and learn by some of the errors that have been made in aviation in the last thirty years the Vickers Viscount and big Brother the Vanguard and the BAC One Eleven may still have been the back bone of avition within the U.K.
As the saying goes ,there are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old bold pilots this must apply to other areas within aviation??
I do know where you are coming from.
The good old days if i remember where there was timed trials in the Viscount from Bristol to Cardiff in the very good old days when Cambrian operated the Jersey-Bristol-Cardiff route.
They were the good old days before you know who took them under there wing.
If only we could turn the clock back and learn by some of the errors that have been made in aviation in the last thirty years the Vickers Viscount and big Brother the Vanguard and the BAC One Eleven may still have been the back bone of avition within the U.K.
As the saying goes ,there are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old bold pilots this must apply to other areas within aviation??
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Originally Posted by GBALU53
If only we could turn the clock back and learn by some of the errors that have been made in aviation in the last thirty years the Vickers Viscount and big Brother the Vanguard and the BAC One Eleven may still have been the back bone of avition within the U.K.
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Do you think we will ever see Skybus flights to the Scilly Isles again from Plymouth?
I also saw a Skybus DH6 in PLH, when I got of my recent flight anyone know why the aircraft was here?
I also saw a Skybus DH6 in PLH, when I got of my recent flight anyone know why the aircraft was here?
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Not 100% sure WOWBOY but the only time the Skybus normally lands at Plymouth is due to weather diversions or because of an emergency I would have thought.
As for flying to the Scilly Isles, I doubt it. I reckon they get a bigger customer base operating out of Exeter than they ever would from Plymouth.
Would be nice to have them return though.
As for flying to the Scilly Isles, I doubt it. I reckon they get a bigger customer base operating out of Exeter than they ever would from Plymouth.
Would be nice to have them return though.
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What do you think the future holds for Plymouth Airport in terms of
routes, as it has lost many services recently and it's home airline
(air southwest) hasn't added any new services for this years expansion,
as they seem to be focusing on Bristol, Newquay and soon Cardiff i
would assume.
I feel we could see PLH-CWL-LBA in the next expansion!
I raise this question/point becuase of a news report i read about 6
airlines in the frame to starting flights from NQY to possibly France
and germany if they come to agreement with Newquay Airport and Exeter
is doing well with the sucess of Flybe. Obviously Plymouth has a bigger
population and Catchment area and yet it lacks many vital services or a
half decent size Airport/Runway.
Are there any plans to expand the runway?, If so what aircraft would be
able to operate into the airport if the runway is expanded?
Have there being any rumours of any expansion from Plymouth by airlines
or has it all been quiet?
routes, as it has lost many services recently and it's home airline
(air southwest) hasn't added any new services for this years expansion,
as they seem to be focusing on Bristol, Newquay and soon Cardiff i
would assume.
I feel we could see PLH-CWL-LBA in the next expansion!
I raise this question/point becuase of a news report i read about 6
airlines in the frame to starting flights from NQY to possibly France
and germany if they come to agreement with Newquay Airport and Exeter
is doing well with the sucess of Flybe. Obviously Plymouth has a bigger
population and Catchment area and yet it lacks many vital services or a
half decent size Airport/Runway.
Are there any plans to expand the runway?, If so what aircraft would be
able to operate into the airport if the runway is expanded?
Have there being any rumours of any expansion from Plymouth by airlines
or has it all been quiet?
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[QUOTE=WOWBOY]
Obviously Plymouth has a bigger
population and Catchment area and yet it lacks many vital services or a
half decent size Airport/Runway.
Plymouth does seem to be in the process of being squeezed from the west by Newquay and the East by Exeter.
Plymouth maybe larger than Exeter, but Exeter's catchment area is larger than Plymouth's. The Devon's population (outside Plymouth) is around 3/4 million, many Plymothians seem to forget that! The further west you go along the SW peninsular the smaller the catchment area becomes. Exeter's includes Torquay, Paignton and the towns on Devon's South East Coast (Teignmouth, Dawlish and Newton Abbot) aswell as North Cornwall, North & East Devon, West Somerset and West Dorset. Indeed for flights such as Toronto and Brest it probably extends up to Bristol.
I think Plymouth should try and get a route to the Midlands. Maybe Air Southwest are happy with the runway at its present length? It means they'll probably have the airport to themselves and they can get on with serving the Plymouth/SE Cornwall area with a few niche services. I heard Flybe were trying to get slots into LGW... EXT to LGW would be very interesting!
Obviously Plymouth has a bigger
population and Catchment area and yet it lacks many vital services or a
half decent size Airport/Runway.
Plymouth does seem to be in the process of being squeezed from the west by Newquay and the East by Exeter.
Plymouth maybe larger than Exeter, but Exeter's catchment area is larger than Plymouth's. The Devon's population (outside Plymouth) is around 3/4 million, many Plymothians seem to forget that! The further west you go along the SW peninsular the smaller the catchment area becomes. Exeter's includes Torquay, Paignton and the towns on Devon's South East Coast (Teignmouth, Dawlish and Newton Abbot) aswell as North Cornwall, North & East Devon, West Somerset and West Dorset. Indeed for flights such as Toronto and Brest it probably extends up to Bristol.
I think Plymouth should try and get a route to the Midlands. Maybe Air Southwest are happy with the runway at its present length? It means they'll probably have the airport to themselves and they can get on with serving the Plymouth/SE Cornwall area with a few niche services. I heard Flybe were trying to get slots into LGW... EXT to LGW would be very interesting!
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The runway can only be extended in length, allowing larger Dash8-400s to get in and that's about it.
The real problem is the width which can't really be addressed without a lot of money as the council have allowed too many houses to encroach on the airfield.
As for routes ASW would probably have been better off running a trip to the delights of Paris rather than Norwich but I'm no expert on these things.
And yes Devonair, they don't want any competition to encroach on their own terf.
Anyway WOWBOY, I would have thought you'd be in a better position to answer your own questions than the rest of us. How's the new job going?
The real problem is the width which can't really be addressed without a lot of money as the council have allowed too many houses to encroach on the airfield.
As for routes ASW would probably have been better off running a trip to the delights of Paris rather than Norwich but I'm no expert on these things.
And yes Devonair, they don't want any competition to encroach on their own terf.
Anyway WOWBOY, I would have thought you'd be in a better position to answer your own questions than the rest of us. How's the new job going?
