Invasion of Icelandic aeroplanes
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Invasion of Icelandic aeroplanes
Hi,
What is going on, is the TF- banner a flag of convenience or something, more and more we are seeing in the UK airlines doing UK flights with Icelandic registrations.
Examples are
TF-JXB MD82 every airline under the sun is using this just now, including AEU today.
Channex operate TF- aircraft
as does Excel.
as does Air Atlanta Europe (okay not a UK airline but does UK flights).
Astreaus using an Icelandair 757 today.
BMI apply to lease 1 or 2 Icelandair 757's.
Do the CAA have any durisdiction on these aircraft??
Also does anyone ever notice that G- registered aeroplanes are hardly ever to be found operating in other countries for non UK airlines, okay sometimes in Canada but seldom do you see it anywhere else but here we have TF- , Antonov's popping in and out all the time, portuguese sheds, swedish saabs, is it just a case of supply and demand or are these airlines mega cheap to lease.
Just seems 10 years ago you rarely saw it yet now its overrun with foreign planes.
Excuse all of the above if its just gibberish but would like some help on the topic.
What is going on, is the TF- banner a flag of convenience or something, more and more we are seeing in the UK airlines doing UK flights with Icelandic registrations.
Examples are
TF-JXB MD82 every airline under the sun is using this just now, including AEU today.
Channex operate TF- aircraft
as does Excel.
as does Air Atlanta Europe (okay not a UK airline but does UK flights).
Astreaus using an Icelandair 757 today.
BMI apply to lease 1 or 2 Icelandair 757's.
Do the CAA have any durisdiction on these aircraft??
Also does anyone ever notice that G- registered aeroplanes are hardly ever to be found operating in other countries for non UK airlines, okay sometimes in Canada but seldom do you see it anywhere else but here we have TF- , Antonov's popping in and out all the time, portuguese sheds, swedish saabs, is it just a case of supply and demand or are these airlines mega cheap to lease.
Just seems 10 years ago you rarely saw it yet now its overrun with foreign planes.
Excuse all of the above if its just gibberish but would like some help on the topic.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Warrington, UK
Posts: 253
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
TF-JXB belongs to an Italian charter airline based in Bologna/Forlė named Jetx.
Jetx had previously operated charter flights from/to Italy under its own brand. Now Jetx simply leases its aircrafts around Europe Jetx frequently leases its two aircrafts (TF-JXA/B) to many UK low-cost and charter carriers, supplying their requests.
Jetx had previously operated charter flights from/to Italy under its own brand. Now Jetx simply leases its aircrafts around Europe Jetx frequently leases its two aircrafts (TF-JXA/B) to many UK low-cost and charter carriers, supplying their requests.
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Caledonian,
I think you will find ten years ago the UK was full of Swedish and Norwegian registered aircraft doing exactly this.
All using second hand equipment.
Keyvon,
Isn't the Jetx owned and operated by the Icelandic firm (can't remember the name) on long term lease to Jetx and since been farmed out to other carriers. Certainly the crew are Icelandic. Can you have an Italian owned aircraft in a foreign reg?
I think you will find ten years ago the UK was full of Swedish and Norwegian registered aircraft doing exactly this.
All using second hand equipment.
Keyvon,
Isn't the Jetx owned and operated by the Icelandic firm (can't remember the name) on long term lease to Jetx and since been farmed out to other carriers. Certainly the crew are Icelandic. Can you have an Italian owned aircraft in a foreign reg?
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi Caledonian
Thought I'd put some detail around what you have written...
TF-JXB MD82 every airline under the sun is using this just now, including AEU today.
Believe UK airline Flightline has some sort of link to this aircraft now?
Channex operate TF- aircraft
as does Excel.
That's right... and quite a few of them too
As does Air Atlanta Europe (okay not a UK airline but does UK flights).
Is a UK airline actually...
Astreaus using an Icelandair 757 today.
AEU I believe have some equipment shortages currently... had plans for a New Zealand 737 and Egyptian A319 leases this summer, but not now going ahead.
BMI apply to lease 1 or 2 Icelandair 757's.
True, and not thought to be an improvement in the service currently provided
Do the CAA have any durisdiction on these aircraft??
All leases have to go via the CAA and, and any a/c operating through the UK has some element of CAA control
Also does anyone ever notice that G- registered aeroplanes are hardly ever to be found operating in other countries for non UK airlines, okay sometimes in Canada but seldom do you see it anywhere else
Not quite... Astraeus have been flying on behalf of Iceland Express for a couple of years, and have been flying for Air Asia this winter
Britannia often operate for Garuda for Hajj
Excel have been operating in USA as have Thomas Cook
European Air Charter are operating for Corsair in France
Thought I'd put some detail around what you have written...
TF-JXB MD82 every airline under the sun is using this just now, including AEU today.
Believe UK airline Flightline has some sort of link to this aircraft now?
Channex operate TF- aircraft
as does Excel.
That's right... and quite a few of them too
As does Air Atlanta Europe (okay not a UK airline but does UK flights).
Is a UK airline actually...
Astreaus using an Icelandair 757 today.
AEU I believe have some equipment shortages currently... had plans for a New Zealand 737 and Egyptian A319 leases this summer, but not now going ahead.
BMI apply to lease 1 or 2 Icelandair 757's.
True, and not thought to be an improvement in the service currently provided
Do the CAA have any durisdiction on these aircraft??
All leases have to go via the CAA and, and any a/c operating through the UK has some element of CAA control
Also does anyone ever notice that G- registered aeroplanes are hardly ever to be found operating in other countries for non UK airlines, okay sometimes in Canada but seldom do you see it anywhere else
Not quite... Astraeus have been flying on behalf of Iceland Express for a couple of years, and have been flying for Air Asia this winter
Britannia often operate for Garuda for Hajj
Excel have been operating in USA as have Thomas Cook
European Air Charter are operating for Corsair in France
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Alba sor
Posts: 575
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Blame the EU if you want
If you ever fancy having a wee fright, check out the licenses these Icelandic types have... weird countries... and not a JAA licence in sight... (well nearly not)
The CAA have to approve all TF leases, and they are about as effective as a chocolate teepot...
