Gatwick Second Runway
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Gatwick Second Runway
According to the Sunday Times, BAA is about to announce plans for a second runway at Gatwick this week.
Knowing the BAA, it will probably involve widening the A23 and installing traffic lights.
Knowing the BAA, it will probably involve widening the A23 and installing traffic lights.
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Is it to be the one that cuts through Russ Hill, so that one feels like one is flying into the old Hong Kong airport.
Or is it the close parallel job
Or the one that flattens the Fox Revivied
Or is it the one through Langley Green and Ifield
Let me guess they are not sure but will have a scoping study to assess which one of the above choices can be dismissed and the others can then form part of a the transport green paper in about 5 years so blighting everyone from just south of Dorking to East Grinstead!!!. Cannot remember in the last 30 odd years when there wasn't a new runway planned. Suppose this is all down to bl***y lo-cost. When will BAA ever be satisfied. massive expansion at STN Terminal 5 making the M25 a misery, big upping at SOU mostly on the back of lo-co. Was in Gatwick recently, grief it was horrible full of uncooth types in jeans and trainers supping beer out of cans and chanting football songs whilst they waited for the next easyflop flight to one of the 'stag capitals' of Europe.
Flying used to be a pleasure.
BAA know it is not feasible until 2019 and we will have run out of hydro-carbon fuel by then (according to Shell & BP -or was that just to put the price up!!!)
Or is it the close parallel job
Or the one that flattens the Fox Revivied
Or is it the one through Langley Green and Ifield
Let me guess they are not sure but will have a scoping study to assess which one of the above choices can be dismissed and the others can then form part of a the transport green paper in about 5 years so blighting everyone from just south of Dorking to East Grinstead!!!. Cannot remember in the last 30 odd years when there wasn't a new runway planned. Suppose this is all down to bl***y lo-cost. When will BAA ever be satisfied. massive expansion at STN Terminal 5 making the M25 a misery, big upping at SOU mostly on the back of lo-co. Was in Gatwick recently, grief it was horrible full of uncooth types in jeans and trainers supping beer out of cans and chanting football songs whilst they waited for the next easyflop flight to one of the 'stag capitals' of Europe.
Flying used to be a pleasure.
BAA know it is not feasible until 2019 and we will have run out of hydro-carbon fuel by then (according to Shell & BP -or was that just to put the price up!!!)
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It is because of these trainers and jeans people that many of us have kept our jobs following 9/11.
I couldn't agree more, when my airline turned to low cost, no joke you could see the difference in clientel over night.
Spitting on the apron on the way to the a/c suddenly became the norm.
However I am grateful for their custom, cos if it wasn't for them and their offspring I'd be flipping bugers alongside them at my local Mac's.
Long may they continue to fly
It is because of these trainers and jeans people that many of us have kept our jobs following 9/11.
I couldn't agree more, when my airline turned to low cost, no joke you could see the difference in clientel over night.
Spitting on the apron on the way to the a/c suddenly became the norm.
However I am grateful for their custom, cos if it wasn't for them and their offspring I'd be flipping bugers alongside them at my local Mac's.
Long may they continue to fly
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ATIS- That, may I say, is as good an answer as I have ever read here! They are horrible though- tanked up before they get on, obnoxious and throwing up in flight.
When I used to go through South Terminal, you used to see whole families of them in matching family shellsuits, presumably so they could identify their tribe. Have the shellsuits passed out of fashion now?
When I used to go through South Terminal, you used to see whole families of them in matching family shellsuits, presumably so they could identify their tribe. Have the shellsuits passed out of fashion now?
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Dear All,
Why?...may I ask, dont they use the current secondary runway at Gatwick?
Is it too close to the other one or something for both to be used at once?
david_wilding.
Why?...may I ask, dont they use the current secondary runway at Gatwick?
Is it too close to the other one or something for both to be used at once?
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Rainboe,
Yes the shell suit is passe. Now they are clearly recognisable by the fake Burberry baseball cap and monster earrings (a la Beckhams). They are still penchant to swearing, swilling and spitting.
Fortunately I loiter in the North Terminal so only see the nice pax (ha!)
It is my belief that there is already a runway (the original from pre '53) to the south of the A23 which is covered in grass and only needs a spot of landscaping and reinforcement.
They moved the windmill at Lowfield Heath some years ago to what was Gatwick Zoo. The windmill was directly in line with the end of this "runway".
It would be interesting to find out how many residents that fight the second runway actually benefit from, or depend on the airport for their livelihood.
Yes the shell suit is passe. Now they are clearly recognisable by the fake Burberry baseball cap and monster earrings (a la Beckhams). They are still penchant to swearing, swilling and spitting.
Fortunately I loiter in the North Terminal so only see the nice pax (ha!)
It is my belief that there is already a runway (the original from pre '53) to the south of the A23 which is covered in grass and only needs a spot of landscaping and reinforcement.
They moved the windmill at Lowfield Heath some years ago to what was Gatwick Zoo. The windmill was directly in line with the end of this "runway".
It would be interesting to find out how many residents that fight the second runway actually benefit from, or depend on the airport for their livelihood.
Flattening Creepy Crawley would seriously reduce the numbers of uncooth easy travellers dressed in jeans and trainers, supping beer out of cans and chanting football songs before spitting on LGW's brand new apron.
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BAA know it is not feasible until 2019 and we will have run out of hydro-carbon fuel by then
If that promise is to be broken, it will be by the Government, not us directly, though I suppose from the outside it'll be hard to see the difference.
Operationally, I think the best option would be a parallel runway to the south. John Prescott blocked a housing development a few years ago that would have interfered with that option.
However, as with all these developments, as at Manchester, wherever you have to cross one runway to get to another seriously reduces the efficiency of the operation.
I don't think taking out the Fox Revived would be necessary (hopefully!)
Current plans give entirely adequate runway utilisation up to 40 million pax with our single runway and 2 Terminals. Growth at present levels will reach this figure around 2012 - 2015, allowing for the odd recession along the way and maturity of the lo-co market.
Practically, the main reason why there might be hastened demand for a 2nd runway at LGW is if the 3rd runway at LHR doesn't happen, probably for road traffic pollution reasons.
And, the reason you can't operate 26L & 26R together is that they are TOO CLOSE. The strips overlap and even the CGAs are only 10 metres apart. We can't even open the Northern runway if an obstruction on the main is too tall, infringing the 1:7 sideslope. If we had a seriously stricken a/c on the main, one of the early options might be to cut the fin off, as happened at Kai Tak a few years ago.
7006 fan...
Will the oil run out? I think I'm with you on that one. Not that it'll suddenly run dry, but the inability to extract it to meet rapidly rising demand will I believe push the price up to the extent that mass air travel will become a thing of the past in 10-15 years. If anyone's wondering when the golden age of mass air travel is/was/will be, then we're living in it NOW.
Cheers,
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