Flyjet Cancellation (Merged)
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ConcernedGH - Astraeus' B757 aircraft are configured with only 189 seats. This in turn means that the ZeroFuelMass is reduced ( even accounting for the generous increase in baggage allowance ), which in turn means that one can get a good amount of fuel onboard the aircraft (albeit that the take-off weight is usually limited, certainly so on the southbound sectors, by the performance and / or structural take-off weight limits ).
Accordingly ( albeit with the very occassional exception ) these aircraft are able to do West Africa trips - with a full (189) load of pax and their bags ( and sometimes a bit of freight too ) - in a single hop, i.e. non-stop ( which the passengers seem to like ).
Needless to say, having only 189 seats makes for a generous seat pitch for those long sectors, i.e. typically in the region of 34 to 36 inches ( which is something the passengers also seem to like ).
Accordingly ( albeit with the very occassional exception ) these aircraft are able to do West Africa trips - with a full (189) load of pax and their bags ( and sometimes a bit of freight too ) - in a single hop, i.e. non-stop ( which the passengers seem to like ).
Needless to say, having only 189 seats makes for a generous seat pitch for those long sectors, i.e. typically in the region of 34 to 36 inches ( which is something the passengers also seem to like ).
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Hi there,
Whats the range with the 189 seaters compared with the 233 seater.
Be grateful for the answer to be in hours rather than nm/km as that part will make no sense to me...lol.
Many thx
TJ747
Whats the range with the 189 seaters compared with the 233 seater.
Be grateful for the answer to be in hours rather than nm/km as that part will make no sense to me...lol.
Many thx
TJ747
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Excess Bagage Problems to Africa?
Light dawns for one who has been in the dark.......
Carrying 189 Pax means baggage can be handled and greater comfort for Pax which all appears to give the Pax what they want. This Sounds like a Marketable Product!
Given that the excess baggage problem is so well known within the industry why were Flyjet still 'cramming on' 210 Pax and leaving themselves having problems with bagage?
Smells like a cowboy operation out for a quick buck? No wonder there quality of service is so poor!
Carrying 189 Pax means baggage can be handled and greater comfort for Pax which all appears to give the Pax what they want. This Sounds like a Marketable Product!
Given that the excess baggage problem is so well known within the industry why were Flyjet still 'cramming on' 210 Pax and leaving themselves having problems with bagage?
Smells like a cowboy operation out for a quick buck? No wonder there quality of service is so poor!
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Yes Concerned GH, just what EXACTLY is your agenda? - I've already asked you this once on the 'Flyjet Future Prospects' thread, and you singularly failed to reply.
Also, why have you de-camped to this thread following my reply to your contracted weights post, which blew you out of the water? - Have a look fellow ppruners.
In addition, why have you changed your contracted weights query to now state 5kg hand baggage (went out years ago) and 30kg hold baggage (20kg is the international standard before excess baggage is charged)?
You post as though you are an informed person when you obviously are not.
In short, why don't you just shut up.
Also, why have you de-camped to this thread following my reply to your contracted weights post, which blew you out of the water? - Have a look fellow ppruners.
In addition, why have you changed your contracted weights query to now state 5kg hand baggage (went out years ago) and 30kg hold baggage (20kg is the international standard before excess baggage is charged)?
You post as though you are an informed person when you obviously are not.
In short, why don't you just shut up.
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Anyone wanting to see the latest developments on this issue can try http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/ (far too long to cut and paste on here - 3 articles)
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Opening a can of worms?
Information from the Ghana Travel Ltd creditors meeting on thursday is that the Air Travel Trust has requested the insolvency team investigate the actions of the Directors of bothe Ghana Travel and Flyjet in regards their breach of directors duties and the brach of CAA rules.
It would appear that having signed a 'Heads of Agreement' with Ghana Travel then they may be seen as acting as an agent for Flyjet which would leave Flyjet responsible for all payments and costs for their customers flights resulting in a potential over £500k.
The Directors of Ghana Travel must believe they have a strong case against Flyjet as the repute any indebtedness and are seeking to issue writs against Flyjet for breach of contract and gross-misrepresentation which could run into £m's
Given the failure of Flyjet and it's directors to follow due process I am informed that additional writs will be issued that hold Flyjet and the directors of Flyjet jointly and severally liable for the demise of Ghana Travel which again could run into £m's.
It looks like Flyjet by their actions have opened a very nessy can of worms that will be wrigling around them for a long time to come!
It would appear that having signed a 'Heads of Agreement' with Ghana Travel then they may be seen as acting as an agent for Flyjet which would leave Flyjet responsible for all payments and costs for their customers flights resulting in a potential over £500k.
The Directors of Ghana Travel must believe they have a strong case against Flyjet as the repute any indebtedness and are seeking to issue writs against Flyjet for breach of contract and gross-misrepresentation which could run into £m's
Given the failure of Flyjet and it's directors to follow due process I am informed that additional writs will be issued that hold Flyjet and the directors of Flyjet jointly and severally liable for the demise of Ghana Travel which again could run into £m's.
It looks like Flyjet by their actions have opened a very nessy can of worms that will be wrigling around them for a long time to come!
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With the 'chatting' between two threads, both on just about the same subject, which goes against PPRuNe policy of multiple threads, they are now merged. You can now discuss freely with each other on the same thread.
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