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forward bookings for the new hubs (Bournemouth and Robin Hood) now stand at over 170,000
Bournemouth flights to Spain selling faster than any other on the network, Robin Hood flights to Dublin may be axed after Ryanair's entry to the market. Forward bookings are slow.
Bournemouth flights to Spain selling faster than any other on the network, Robin Hood flights to Dublin may be axed after Ryanair's entry to the market. Forward bookings are slow.
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Doncaster is booking the biggest volumes but per route Bournemouth is performing better.
Coventry forward bookings are better than last year but weaker per route than DSA and BOH.
4th B733 and 3rd B733 for DSA and BOH respectively already lined up for late 2005.
Fleet by DEC 2005 : 4 B735, 7 B733
Rumoured next bases: BLK, ABZ, STN/LGW
Coventry forward bookings are better than last year but weaker per route than DSA and BOH.
4th B733 and 3rd B733 for DSA and BOH respectively already lined up for late 2005.
Fleet by DEC 2005 : 4 B735, 7 B733
Rumoured next bases: BLK, ABZ, STN/LGW
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Thomsonfly & Dublin
Thomsonfly rumoured to be pulling the Doncaster-Dublin route because of Ryanair. Not likely.
A quick cost comparison of several departure dates on both www.Thomsonfly.com and the Ryanair site show that Thomsonfly is generally cheaper by at least £20. Now that either means that people aren't booking Thomsonfly because they are falling for the traditional Ryanair trick of looking and feeling cheap even when they are fleecing you, or that Thomsonfly as part of the large TUI group are undercutting Ryanair in an aggressive pricing policy.
To repeat: Ryanair appear cheap in almost every way and people should shop around before committing their hard earned money.
Good luck to Thomsonfly at Doncaster. Some may not be aware that the famous Britannia name is disappearing, to be replaced entirely by Thomsonfly. This means only that the Thomsonfly on-board service will be moving closer to Britannia and away from the "traditional" no frills service.
A quick cost comparison of several departure dates on both www.Thomsonfly.com and the Ryanair site show that Thomsonfly is generally cheaper by at least £20. Now that either means that people aren't booking Thomsonfly because they are falling for the traditional Ryanair trick of looking and feeling cheap even when they are fleecing you, or that Thomsonfly as part of the large TUI group are undercutting Ryanair in an aggressive pricing policy.
To repeat: Ryanair appear cheap in almost every way and people should shop around before committing their hard earned money.
Good luck to Thomsonfly at Doncaster. Some may not be aware that the famous Britannia name is disappearing, to be replaced entirely by Thomsonfly. This means only that the Thomsonfly on-board service will be moving closer to Britannia and away from the "traditional" no frills service.
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Unlikely to be Stansted for a base due to a lack of slots especially early morning departures. Gatwick no doubt also suffers the same.
From TTG:
TUI UK’S no-frills airline Thomsonfly is now cheaper to run than any of its competitors, according to the operator.
Speaking in Orlando, Tui UK managing director Peter Rothwell claimed: “The cost of us putting people through the air is now cheaper than any of our low-cost rivals.” Tui is using the economics of its Britannia Airways charter fleet to launch a hybrid airline. It is rebranding all its Britannia fleet as Thomsonfly.
The rebrand will enable it to offer unbonded seats to compete with no-frills rivals. On the same flights, it will also carry passengers that have bought Atol-bonded packages or conventional seat-only tickets. Rothwell admitted that the dominance of easyJet and Ryanair at Luton and Stansted was an impediment to the company’s expansion plans, but stated: “I cannot afford not to be in Luton and Stansted".
From TTG:
TUI UK’S no-frills airline Thomsonfly is now cheaper to run than any of its competitors, according to the operator.
Speaking in Orlando, Tui UK managing director Peter Rothwell claimed: “The cost of us putting people through the air is now cheaper than any of our low-cost rivals.” Tui is using the economics of its Britannia Airways charter fleet to launch a hybrid airline. It is rebranding all its Britannia fleet as Thomsonfly.
The rebrand will enable it to offer unbonded seats to compete with no-frills rivals. On the same flights, it will also carry passengers that have bought Atol-bonded packages or conventional seat-only tickets. Rothwell admitted that the dominance of easyJet and Ryanair at Luton and Stansted was an impediment to the company’s expansion plans, but stated: “I cannot afford not to be in Luton and Stansted".
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4th B733 and 3rd B733 for DSA and BOH respectively already lined up for late 2005.
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Durham Tees Valley??
Maybe Durham Tees Valley might be a new base for Thomsonfly, heard us mentioned in the running for the base that became BOH 
Also heard it mentioned that Thomsonfly basing here was part of the deal when it was announced that BY would base an aircraft here this summer
Also heard it mentioned that Thomsonfly basing here was part of the deal when it was announced that BY would base an aircraft here this summer
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AH,
And you would have also thought it would have helped sweeten Ryanair, although MOL was saying yesterday that they would look to building DSA to DUB up to three rotations before launching other cities into DSA, and that when they do look at this, it is more likely to be bringing the usual based a/c in from other European bases.
shlittlenellie,
Couldn't agree more, no one should ever assume that any airline should be the cheapest on any route, unless they are the sole operator, in which case they can often get away with charging quite a bit more!
Buster - I was curious about that article too when I read it, especially as FR's 737-800s must outperform any of TOM's older models on fuel and staffing ratios? Apart from CIA, they seem to fly more to main city airports too.
Their UK bases are a more interesting situation though - I presume they have a good deal at DSA and BOH, but the commitment TUI have had to make to CVT must bring them several years of red before they get their money back. I'm sure this investment will reap them substantial returns in the long run, but does anyone know how signifcant the cost of the base airport is (longer parking, but more volume discounts), compared to the destination airport (quick turnarounds, but much less bargaining power?).
And you would have also thought it would have helped sweeten Ryanair, although MOL was saying yesterday that they would look to building DSA to DUB up to three rotations before launching other cities into DSA, and that when they do look at this, it is more likely to be bringing the usual based a/c in from other European bases.
shlittlenellie,
Couldn't agree more, no one should ever assume that any airline should be the cheapest on any route, unless they are the sole operator, in which case they can often get away with charging quite a bit more!
Buster - I was curious about that article too when I read it, especially as FR's 737-800s must outperform any of TOM's older models on fuel and staffing ratios? Apart from CIA, they seem to fly more to main city airports too.
Their UK bases are a more interesting situation though - I presume they have a good deal at DSA and BOH, but the commitment TUI have had to make to CVT must bring them several years of red before they get their money back. I'm sure this investment will reap them substantial returns in the long run, but does anyone know how signifcant the cost of the base airport is (longer parking, but more volume discounts), compared to the destination airport (quick turnarounds, but much less bargaining power?).
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Wobbly,
AFAIK, they are one of the few airlines which do not hedge fuel, nor do they add surcharges for it. They have quite a few press releases about this on their website, and have frequently criticised other airlines for imposing fuel surcharges when the price goes up, and then pocketing the difference when the price goes down. I don't think TOM surcharge either.
I know the 737-800 drinks a similar amound to a 737-200 for the same journey, but carries 189 instead of 132 (iirc). Not sure where the other 73- models would compare on this, but afaik, the -200 was a thirsty monster, so -300s, -500s should be quite a bit better, but still a little way off the Next generation models. Sorry for using such vague terms, if anyone has useful reference sources, please pass them on!
AFAIK, they are one of the few airlines which do not hedge fuel, nor do they add surcharges for it. They have quite a few press releases about this on their website, and have frequently criticised other airlines for imposing fuel surcharges when the price goes up, and then pocketing the difference when the price goes down. I don't think TOM surcharge either.
I know the 737-800 drinks a similar amound to a 737-200 for the same journey, but carries 189 instead of 132 (iirc). Not sure where the other 73- models would compare on this, but afaik, the -200 was a thirsty monster, so -300s, -500s should be quite a bit better, but still a little way off the Next generation models. Sorry for using such vague terms, if anyone has useful reference sources, please pass them on!
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BOH bookings stand at 100,000 with Palma being the top seller.
February 21st 2005
THOMSONFLY.COM BOOKS ITS ONE MILLIONTH PASSENGER
The low fares airline Thomsonfly.com has today announced that it has booked its one millionth passenger.
Thomsonfly.com has been growing successfully since the airline launched in December 2003 and flights commenced from Coventry Airport in March 2004.
The millionth passenger booking was made last week on a flight to Paris, a new destination that will be served by flights from all three Thomsonfly.com bases this year.
Marketing director for Thomsonfly.com, Maria Heckel, said: "It's great we have reached this landmark booking so quickly. We anticipate that bookings to continue to be strong, particularly with flying starting from the two new UK bases in the next two months.
"We are constantly adding new routes to our flying programme and continue to offer an interesting range of European beach, leisure, and city destinations from the three local airports. Customers who have booked flights from our new bases are delighted to have the opportunity to fly from their local airport and are excited about the new flight services commencing."
Thomsonfly.com will commence flights from Robin Hood Airport Doncaster Sheffield on April 28 and Bournemouth Airport on March 22. Flights from these two new bases went on sale in December 2004 are already proving popular with 130,000 passengers booked for Doncaster Sheffield and 100,000 for Bournemouth. Spanish destinations are the most popular from each of the bases with the largest number of bookings for Robin Hood Airport being to Alicante, the top destination for Bournemouth is Palma and from Coventry the favourite for travellers is Malaga.
Thomsonfly.com operated four Boeing 737-500 aircraft last summer and will be adding five larger 737-300 aircraft to operate the flights from Doncaster Sheffield and Bournemouth.
Contributory to the airline’s success is the service customers receive as part of the Thomsonfly.com service. Unlike the majority of low fares airlines Thomsonfly.com allocates seats for passengers and offers passengers the opportunity to book extra legroom seats.
The airline not only carries UK travellers for breaks and holidays but carries increasing proportions of overseas visitors - the most popular route for bookings originating overseas is Valencia. Thomsonfly.com's overseas marketing campaigns increase awareness of the attraction of the areas surrounding the UK bases and drive visitors which then benefits the local economy.
Thomsonfly.com is currently training new cabin and flight crew for the new flights from Bournemouth and Doncaster Sheffield. By this summer the airline will be operating with a team of over 450 crew members a four fold growth from the original 110 strong team. In addition a multilingual team of 23 people operate the airline's Coventry based call centre.
February 21st 2005
THOMSONFLY.COM BOOKS ITS ONE MILLIONTH PASSENGER
The low fares airline Thomsonfly.com has today announced that it has booked its one millionth passenger.
Thomsonfly.com has been growing successfully since the airline launched in December 2003 and flights commenced from Coventry Airport in March 2004.
The millionth passenger booking was made last week on a flight to Paris, a new destination that will be served by flights from all three Thomsonfly.com bases this year.
Marketing director for Thomsonfly.com, Maria Heckel, said: "It's great we have reached this landmark booking so quickly. We anticipate that bookings to continue to be strong, particularly with flying starting from the two new UK bases in the next two months.
"We are constantly adding new routes to our flying programme and continue to offer an interesting range of European beach, leisure, and city destinations from the three local airports. Customers who have booked flights from our new bases are delighted to have the opportunity to fly from their local airport and are excited about the new flight services commencing."
Thomsonfly.com will commence flights from Robin Hood Airport Doncaster Sheffield on April 28 and Bournemouth Airport on March 22. Flights from these two new bases went on sale in December 2004 are already proving popular with 130,000 passengers booked for Doncaster Sheffield and 100,000 for Bournemouth. Spanish destinations are the most popular from each of the bases with the largest number of bookings for Robin Hood Airport being to Alicante, the top destination for Bournemouth is Palma and from Coventry the favourite for travellers is Malaga.
Thomsonfly.com operated four Boeing 737-500 aircraft last summer and will be adding five larger 737-300 aircraft to operate the flights from Doncaster Sheffield and Bournemouth.
Contributory to the airline’s success is the service customers receive as part of the Thomsonfly.com service. Unlike the majority of low fares airlines Thomsonfly.com allocates seats for passengers and offers passengers the opportunity to book extra legroom seats.
The airline not only carries UK travellers for breaks and holidays but carries increasing proportions of overseas visitors - the most popular route for bookings originating overseas is Valencia. Thomsonfly.com's overseas marketing campaigns increase awareness of the attraction of the areas surrounding the UK bases and drive visitors which then benefits the local economy.
Thomsonfly.com is currently training new cabin and flight crew for the new flights from Bournemouth and Doncaster Sheffield. By this summer the airline will be operating with a team of over 450 crew members a four fold growth from the original 110 strong team. In addition a multilingual team of 23 people operate the airline's Coventry based call centre.
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Ryanair's fuel hedgin ended in October last year. Michael O'Leary is waiting for the fuel price to come down before he re-hedges the fuel.
100,000 bookings for BOH is great, thats 16,500 bookings per route compared to 14,400 at DSA.
100,000 bookings for BOH is great, thats 16,500 bookings per route compared to 14,400 at DSA.
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Anyone know what the future is for Ryanair's 737-200s ? I thought they were being retired this March but they are published as operating some of the Dublin flights in this summer's LBA timetable. There can't be that many left in the fleet anyway.
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Both Ryanair & Thomsonfly are selling extremely well from DSA...
Doubt Thomsonfly will pull DUB from DSA, the timings of both flights compliment each other (one early morning, one midday)
DSA is the star performer for Thomsonfly... unlike struggling BOH!
Doubt Thomsonfly will pull DUB from DSA, the timings of both flights compliment each other (one early morning, one midday)
DSA is the star performer for Thomsonfly... unlike struggling BOH!
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Why do you say BOH is struggling? I don't know how ticket prices compare with DSA but sales seems as good if not better.
BOH 100,000 seats sold on 7 routes
14,300 per route
50,000 per based aircraft (2 based).
DSA 130,000 seats sold on 11 routes
11,800 per route
43,300 per based aircraft (assuming 3 based).
BOH 100,000 seats sold on 7 routes
14,300 per route
50,000 per based aircraft (2 based).
DSA 130,000 seats sold on 11 routes
11,800 per route
43,300 per based aircraft (assuming 3 based).
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Le Tirer,
What is your source?
Would this imply that the rest - i.e. 1m - 230,000 are at CVT?
So more than three quarters of a million now booked through CVT?
I just don't know why TOM are keeping so quiet about this round here.
They should be standing proud, and pointing out how this must now outnumber the nimbys by about 1000 to one!
What is your source?
Would this imply that the rest - i.e. 1m - 230,000 are at CVT?
So more than three quarters of a million now booked through CVT?
I just don't know why TOM are keeping so quiet about this round here.
They should be standing proud, and pointing out how this must now outnumber the nimbys by about 1000 to one!