All Quiet on the Indian Front
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All Quiet on the Indian Front
Anyone know when the government are going to make a decision on the New Idian routes out of LHR.
Last I heard BA,VA & BMI all questioned the CAA decision on route allocation so the gov have to make it.
When is this going to happern as the routes are supposed to start end of march.
Last I heard BA,VA & BMI all questioned the CAA decision on route allocation so the gov have to make it.
When is this going to happern as the routes are supposed to start end of march.
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So does this mean that all the routes granted by the CAA are valid, without waiting for the GOV to make up it's mind in the appeal.
If this is so then why appeal? surely you could loose your slots or gain more from the appeal. That could be embarrassing if you have started the route then end up loosing it.
If this is so then why appeal? surely you could loose your slots or gain more from the appeal. That could be embarrassing if you have started the route then end up loosing it.
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Mr Darling hasn't ruled on the appeals yet. No fixed timescale for him to do so. Virgin have started the extra DEL/BOM services at their own risk that the appeal doesn't go against them.
The Indian side sorted themselves out in 3 days with no appeals:
- AI flying 3 x weekly to Birmingham and on to Totonto, plus 3 x weekly Calcutta/Heathrow
- Jet Airways starting daily Bombay/Heathrow
- Air Sahara starting 2 x weekly Delhi/Heathrow
The Indian side sorted themselves out in 3 days with no appeals:
- AI flying 3 x weekly to Birmingham and on to Totonto, plus 3 x weekly Calcutta/Heathrow
- Jet Airways starting daily Bombay/Heathrow
- Air Sahara starting 2 x weekly Delhi/Heathrow
When will Jet Airways start their service and with what equipment? Nothing on the website when I looked today. I've used them in India - reminded me of what flying on was like 20 years ago - really enjoyed it.
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20driver:
News reports here say Jet Airways have just acquired 3 slots at LHR (meaning there is a surplus of slots in their hands, given that their initial service has been limited by Indian authorities to seven per week).
Jet Airways are said to be negotiating lease of three A340-300 from SAA for use on the BOM-LHR and, possibly, Singapore routes (the latter being started with B737-800 from the existing 9W fleet).
No exact date for commencement of either LHR or SIN services mentioned yet.
(Queston: Why would SAA have surplus a/c?)
News reports here say Jet Airways have just acquired 3 slots at LHR (meaning there is a surplus of slots in their hands, given that their initial service has been limited by Indian authorities to seven per week).
Jet Airways are said to be negotiating lease of three A340-300 from SAA for use on the BOM-LHR and, possibly, Singapore routes (the latter being started with B737-800 from the existing 9W fleet).
No exact date for commencement of either LHR or SIN services mentioned yet.
(Queston: Why would SAA have surplus a/c?)
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airhumberside:
Correct, Air Sahara have been given permission for three flights a week to LGW. (Flight allocations by the Pukkha Sahibs in Delhi have been made on a pro-rata basis linked to domestic travel volumes handled by each carrier).
Correct, Air Sahara have been given permission for three flights a week to LGW. (Flight allocations by the Pukkha Sahibs in Delhi have been made on a pro-rata basis linked to domestic travel volumes handled by each carrier).
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Alpha Leader,
Sahara and Jet may have permission to fly from the Indian Government but have not been granted official permission by the UK.
I was only speaking to someone yesterday at the DfT (department of Transport)
Basically, Jet, sahara and Indian Airlines have approached the DFT, but not formally asked for permissions.
Although there are 21 new surfaces to the UK from Indian based airlines, AI already had 19 and have been given an additional 5, taking them to 24.
7 are offered to jet/sahara and 2 have been offered to jet/sahara, by the Indian Government, I can't remember which way around it was.
That leaves a further 7 surfaces, which will be issued for the winter season October 2005 - March 2006, possibly going to Indian Airlines, who have also approached the DfT and shown some interest. exactly who gets what is to be decided by the Indian government, providing , that the permission has been given by the DfT for that airline
The Aviation dept at DFT have confirmed this. As for landing slots, these would have to be applied for with the airports they wish to land at.
So as it stand, although, the airlines have been given the surfaces, they do not officially have permission to fly into the UK, until a formal application is made, along with all paper for all their fleet etc.
You can contact the DfT aviation dept for further clarification.
As I say, this info was only given to me yesterday (15th March 2005)
Sahara and Jet may have permission to fly from the Indian Government but have not been granted official permission by the UK.
I was only speaking to someone yesterday at the DfT (department of Transport)
Basically, Jet, sahara and Indian Airlines have approached the DFT, but not formally asked for permissions.
Although there are 21 new surfaces to the UK from Indian based airlines, AI already had 19 and have been given an additional 5, taking them to 24.
7 are offered to jet/sahara and 2 have been offered to jet/sahara, by the Indian Government, I can't remember which way around it was.
That leaves a further 7 surfaces, which will be issued for the winter season October 2005 - March 2006, possibly going to Indian Airlines, who have also approached the DfT and shown some interest. exactly who gets what is to be decided by the Indian government, providing , that the permission has been given by the DfT for that airline
The Aviation dept at DFT have confirmed this. As for landing slots, these would have to be applied for with the airports they wish to land at.
So as it stand, although, the airlines have been given the surfaces, they do not officially have permission to fly into the UK, until a formal application is made, along with all paper for all their fleet etc.
You can contact the DfT aviation dept for further clarification.
As I say, this info was only given to me yesterday (15th March 2005)
