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Old 9th Jan 2005, 12:36
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Euromanx Update

Who are providing aircraft for Euromanx services at the moment and what is the latest on their new LCY/BHD/SOU services?

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Old 9th Jan 2005, 17:05
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The flights to LCY seem to be a bit of a mystery. As of today (9 January) the LCY official website is stating that Flybe flights LCY-IOM cease on 9 January and they are still "actively trying to source a replacement".

Meanwhile the Euromanx official website is merrily offering 3 flights a day from tomorrow, flight Nos 0801-0810, to book on for the route.

One of them must surely be wrong !
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Air Atlantique are operating the IOM-LCY route from Monday with an ATR42 whilst the Metro is operating BHD and DUB.
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A Dornier 328JET is now being mentioned aswell.

From LCY website
"The Avro RJ and Dornier 328 Jets due for delivery also in late January will take over the route by February, complemented by weekend services with its 32-seat Dornier 328Jet."

Any idea where Euromanx will be getting the Dornier from?
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I suppose it could be Club 328 or whatever they are called now a days
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The cock-up seems to be on the LCY website www.londoncityairport.com which on a range of pages this morning states:

"Belfast & Isle of Man Update
Flybe has informed us that the Belfast service will be ceasing as from 9th January and will not be re-commencing. The Isle of Man service stops on the same day, but London City Airport is actively sourcing another operator for this service."

and then this:

"Expanding regional airline EuroManx will commence flights between London City Airport and the Isle of Man on Monday 10 January, offering lead in fares of £99 return, including taxes. Flights will commence initially with an ATR-42, wet-leased from Air Atlantique of Coventry, UK, as EuroManx prepares to accept its first of two BAE SYSTEMS Avro RJ70s at the end of January. The Avro RJ and Dornier 328 Jets due for delivery also in late January will take over the route by February, complemented by weekend services with its 32-seat Dornier 328Jet."

Then the website shows 3W flights on the live arrivals page but only from Belfast City.

And finally on the schedule pages shows Flybe IOM flights continuing until March.

Tea and biscuits for the IT guy with the airport manager perhaps ?
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Indeed we got our first Euromanx arrival this morning albeit slightly late by 20minutes.Nice Denim Airways F50 was doing the run.


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Old 10th Jan 2005, 18:13
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Heya ppl,

As far as I know, EMX are taking over FlyBE's routes to LCY from this month, not too sure when as dates keep beign changed, they will be using the ATR to start but then the RJ and 328 will be taking over when they get here, i will be off down the airport (EGNS) soon to take some pics of the aicraft so if they dont appear by feb I will let all on here know !!
Also, I think as soon as we start gettin profit from the LCY routes, the denim air and other operators loaning a/c to EMX will be taking there a/c back as EMX will be FINALLY operating it's own aircraft.
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Old 13th Jan 2005, 08:24
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With London City now working, when will Stansted stop and when will the much publicised double daily to Southampton start?
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Old 13th Jan 2005, 13:40
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Maybe they'll keep both Stansted & London City?

Stansted being flown by Denim Air with Denim Air callsigns whilst LCY is (currently) flowmn by Air Atlantic with Atlantic callsigns.

Any plans for Denim to aquire certification for City ops?

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Old 13th Jan 2005, 14:09
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Pity somebody can't take the time to update their website - destinations and schedules still don't include BHD & LCY although flights are bookable.
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Old 13th Jan 2005, 15:23
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Wish to god they would hurry up and get a fixed a/c. One day a F50,metroliner the next piper navajo/chieftain the next!!


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Old 13th Jan 2005, 17:59
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Advert in the Manx Courier (free rag) this evening for another twelve cabin crew. BE nice if they had some planes to go in.

BRing Back manx airlines
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Old 14th Jan 2005, 06:46
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Any plans for Denim to aquire certification for City ops?
Whats the point? Atlantic can cover it with the ATR until the RJ's are on-line.
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Old 14th Jan 2005, 10:43
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Any plans for Denim to aquire certification for City ops?
If I recall correctly, Denim Air operated schedules into London City some years ago (from Eindhoven ?) and may have maintained their paperwork. They may have done some charters or subs for other carriers in more recent times as well.

Anyone know ?
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Old 15th Jan 2005, 10:21
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The present Denim Air are not certified for LCY operations.
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Old 15th Jan 2005, 12:13
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Think you will find them doing some weekend charters on the RJ's this Summer .
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Old 15th Jan 2005, 22:16
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I'm just getting a bit lost, team, about a couple of things, grateful for any clarification.

Comments in the post above that the Denim Air F50 has both operated on the route and is not certified for it.

Comment also about a Metroliner, which I believe is not certified for LCY.

Regarding using a Navajo Chieftain, there was certainly what sounded like one took off into the low cloud over LCY (and over chateau WHBM) this morning (Saturday). Was this the Euromanx operation ? Must be quite a long haul for one.

I see the Euromanx website now has the LCY schedules.

Thanks for any updates.
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Old 15th Jan 2005, 22:52
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I think everyone is a bit lost now about who/what euromanx actually is!

If, as their website says, they are a "ticket provider for Denim Air", are all passengers issued with Denim Air tickets and are the Air Atlantic ATR and Metro operating for them under Denim Air's licence - for example what insurance cover has the passenger got - Denim's or Air Atlantics? Do they issue different tickets depending on who they have leased in for the route (which must get confusing as Glasgow and Dublin seem to mix beween Denim and Atlantic...). Also, a friend in a travel agency has told me that when you book a euromanx flight, the reservation system (Galio?) does not tell you who the operator actually is which apparently it is supposed to do if the operator is not the airline in the flight number? I'm not sure about this but, like a previous poster said, the quicker Euromanx get their own aircraft, crews and licinces, the better for all.
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Old 16th Jan 2005, 12:13
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The Metroliner, Pa31 & Fokkers have been operating the IOM to Belfast route NOT the London route.

The IOM to London City route is currently being flown by Air Atlantique using Atlantics licence. They can't use Denim Airs licence for this route as Denim do not have clearance for LCY ops.

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