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If PIK is so bad and GLA is so much better then why BWIA at PIK?
I dropped-out of arguing with the GLA
brigade.
They saturate aviation forums
with GLA this and GLA that. It's getting
tedious reading the same chants over and
over again...
We need a GLA-free forum!
I dropped-out of arguing with the GLA
brigade.
They saturate aviation forums
with GLA this and GLA that. It's getting
tedious reading the same chants over and
over again...
We need a GLA-free forum!
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oh and recently I am correct in saying that PIK is getting a 3 million pound upgrade to the terminal? ahh yes thinkso.
All this talk about Oleary not making money at pik is aload of crap, Oleary has stated that PIK is one of the better airports he operates into, he has practically the whole terminal to his self!
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Now now children, calm down. You lot put as much effort into your tribal airport loyalties as any football fan does to his team. Relax a bit. Last set of figures I had, GLA, EDI and PIK were all handling increasing numbers of passengers so it appears there is a place in the world for all three.
Anyway, back to the original legitamate, if somewhat smug enquiry. Yes, RYR did operate a scheduled DUB-GLA service back in the late eighties using the BAC 1-11. It didn't last very long, possibly less than a month. Why? Because nobody flew on it. I remember asking the pilot on one of the services what the load was like. He said there was ONE passenger on it.
Anyway, back to the original legitamate, if somewhat smug enquiry. Yes, RYR did operate a scheduled DUB-GLA service back in the late eighties using the BAC 1-11. It didn't last very long, possibly less than a month. Why? Because nobody flew on it. I remember asking the pilot on one of the services what the load was like. He said there was ONE passenger on it.
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***If PIK is so bad and GLA is so much better then why BWIA at PIK?***
If thats the case then why are BA, BMI, AA, CO, US, AC, OOM, EK, KL etc etc etc all at GLA? And why did GSM leave PIK? Oh yes because they partnerd up with a long haul airline who would offer connection in GLA but they refused to fly to PIK, that is why GSM left PIK.
If thats the case then why are BA, BMI, AA, CO, US, AC, OOM, EK, KL etc etc etc all at GLA? And why did GSM leave PIK? Oh yes because they partnerd up with a long haul airline who would offer connection in GLA but they refused to fly to PIK, that is why GSM left PIK.
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Good grief. Our English friends must be laughing and shaking their heads in amazement about the Jocks wingeing amongst themselves about which airport is better than the other. Let's grow up!
The central belt in Scotland has three good airports within a 40 mile radius of Glasgow City Centre and here we Scots are - fighting amongst oursleves about which is best etc etc etc. Given that a fair proportion of Scots fly from the likes of Manchester to go on holiday (I did this year - £500 cheaper for a family of four!) shouldn't we be concentrating on growing the number of destinations from our airports in Scotland and fighting for lower fares as opposed to constantly bickering amongst ourselves?
The central belt in Scotland has three good airports within a 40 mile radius of Glasgow City Centre and here we Scots are - fighting amongst oursleves about which is best etc etc etc. Given that a fair proportion of Scots fly from the likes of Manchester to go on holiday (I did this year - £500 cheaper for a family of four!) shouldn't we be concentrating on growing the number of destinations from our airports in Scotland and fighting for lower fares as opposed to constantly bickering amongst ourselves?
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Good grief. Our English friends must be laughing and shaking their heads in amazement about the Jocks wingeing amongst themselves about which airport is better than the other. Let's grow up!
Perhaps it would be fine if the 'spotters'
stopped uttering GLA this and GLA that.?
I notice there are only two Scottish airports mentioned in this thread, could it be the
GLA 'thing' that our English friends will be shaking their heads over.?
Perhaps it would be fine if the 'spotters'
stopped uttering GLA this and GLA that.?
I notice there are only two Scottish airports mentioned in this thread, could it be the
GLA 'thing' that our English friends will be shaking their heads over.?
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I notice there are only two Scottish airports mentioned in this thread
Kpiko3, I never said that MOL desn't make money at PIK, he most certainly does. Joe, this is a weegie discussion! You've got enough on your plate at East-of-Scotland European Airport ( oops, sorry, forgot about the Edinburgh Government induced token Co service).
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Joe you really are pathetic sometimes, its about GLA and RYR operate out of PIK, so why are they going to talk about EDI?
Who's talking/mentioning EDI? There was refence to Scottish airports 'whingeing'
but EDI should be left out given no one
has mentioned it.?
Who's talking/mentioning EDI? There was refence to Scottish airports 'whingeing'
but EDI should be left out given no one
has mentioned it.?
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OkOk Joe and others,
It`s getting out of hand now, the fact is that RYR wont go to GLA and I think its certain enough to say that!
EDI is nothing to do with this so can we stay on topic please.
Kpiko3
It`s getting out of hand now, the fact is that RYR wont go to GLA and I think its certain enough to say that!
EDI is nothing to do with this so can we stay on topic please.
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What about bmibaby shifting its Cardiff route to PIK. Must be a reason behind that?
Billy G
If MOL could negotiate a deal with LHR he\'d be off like a shot.
If he could negotiate a deal with Paris CDG he\'d dump Beauvais like a shot............ and so the story goes on.
Prestwickmake heaps of money from the spin offs from Ryanair, not from FR themselves. If 2.2million pass thru the airport annually and spend an average of £10 on car parking, food, fags, taxi\'s etc thats £20m in the bank. Che Ching!!!
£10 is just a guess it might even be more.
Billy G
If MOL could negotiate a deal with LHR he\'d be off like a shot.
If he could negotiate a deal with Paris CDG he\'d dump Beauvais like a shot............ and so the story goes on.
Prestwickmake heaps of money from the spin offs from Ryanair, not from FR themselves. If 2.2million pass thru the airport annually and spend an average of £10 on car parking, food, fags, taxi\'s etc thats £20m in the bank. Che Ching!!!
£10 is just a guess it might even be more.
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***What about bmibaby shifting its Cardiff route to PIK. Must be a reason behind that?***
Lower costs at PIK that aloud them to make a profit on the route that when at GLA due to higher costs it wasnt making much of a profit.
Lower costs at PIK that aloud them to make a profit on the route that when at GLA due to higher costs it wasnt making much of a profit.
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Smith, I can assure you that PIK does not make heaps of money from RYR. That is the reason that the owners are so disappointed with its recent performance.
Your reasoning on the LHR, CDG etc subject is also wide of the mark. These airports already cover destinations that RYR would be looking to operate to, at GLA almost all the existing PIK destinations would be new ones for GLA, hence he would corner the market there immediately!
Your reasoning on the LHR, CDG etc subject is also wide of the mark. These airports already cover destinations that RYR would be looking to operate to, at GLA almost all the existing PIK destinations would be new ones for GLA, hence he would corner the market there immediately!
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BALIX,
I flew GLA-DUB-GLA in Aug '88 on a RYR 1-11 (GBNIH).
It was a staff ticket, so that suggests that the route operated for at least 3 or 4 months (allowing time for me to notice it, get ticket etc).
The return was memorable as on stand at DUB, the 'usual' announcement was made 'welcome on board RYR flight 853 to Glasgow...' as soon as those words were out, a guy got up from the rear of the aircraft and rushed up to the front (and exit) never to re-appear. Guess he was on the wrong flight
That particular flight was 80/90% full.
I flew GLA-DUB-GLA in Aug '88 on a RYR 1-11 (GBNIH).
It was a staff ticket, so that suggests that the route operated for at least 3 or 4 months (allowing time for me to notice it, get ticket etc).
The return was memorable as on stand at DUB, the 'usual' announcement was made 'welcome on board RYR flight 853 to Glasgow...' as soon as those words were out, a guy got up from the rear of the aircraft and rushed up to the front (and exit) never to re-appear. Guess he was on the wrong flight
That particular flight was 80/90% full.
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Well done for getting on that service as it didn't last long. I guess the established Aer Lingus service was just TOO established in the pre-low cost days. The Lingus flights used 1-11 combis on occasions but were mainly run by 737s and Sheds before they got the 146s.
Well done for getting on that service as it didn't last long. I guess the established Aer Lingus service was just TOO established in the pre-low cost days. The Lingus flights used 1-11 combis on occasions but were mainly run by 737s and Sheds before they got the 146s.
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I seem to remember FR operating a 1-11 for EI when I was flying DUB-GLA, the return with a Loganair 146! This would be about 1990 I think. The difference in noise between the two was considerable, and I felt the 146 was very nippy on takeoff.
IIRC EI were going through a fleet replacement at the time and were short of aircraft for some routes.
IIRC EI were going through a fleet replacement at the time and were short of aircraft for some routes.
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***What about bmibaby shifting its Cardiff route to PIK. Must be a reason behind that?***
Lower costs at PIK that aloud them to make a profit on the route that when at GLA due to higher costs it wasnt making much of a profit.
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As we have established RYR oerated 1-11`s GLA to DUB but amazingly none of you remember that SAS extended its CPH-GLA service on to DUB around the same time and advertised at the then "ridiculously low fare of £69 return".I am sure that there were three lunchtime departures FR/EI +SK and something had to give,it did FR pulled out and SAS dropped GLA in favour of a non-stop service to DUB even having the cheek to keep the same flight number.
As for FR operating out of GLA in the future well no-one here has a crystal ball,but I think as far as MOL is concerned PIK (Like it or not) serves Glasgow and thats good enough for him and the almost 2 million pax that use Ryanair at GPIA in the last year
As for FR operating out of GLA in the future well no-one here has a crystal ball,but I think as far as MOL is concerned PIK (Like it or not) serves Glasgow and thats good enough for him and the almost 2 million pax that use Ryanair at GPIA in the last year