Liverpool -- READ the stickies!!!!!!!
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just noticed that after reading it a second time, perhaps should get the eyes tested! 
So dwlpl predictions for new routes / discontinued routes etc with it being the start of the year?!??!?
What your bets on. tis Feb now and no new route news yet, a bit quieter than i wanted!
So dwlpl predictions for new routes / discontinued routes etc with it being the start of the year?!??!?
What your bets on. tis Feb now and no new route news yet, a bit quieter than i wanted!
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EZY are currently converting Orly into an A319 base. Stansted is next and will need a lot of aircraft.
Very few easyJet flights at Liverpool reach the 148 capacity of the 737, therefore there is no incentive to introduce the slightly larger aircraft.
I do not expect Liverpool to have based A319s for some time.
Very few easyJet flights at Liverpool reach the 148 capacity of the 737, therefore there is no incentive to introduce the slightly larger aircraft.
I do not expect Liverpool to have based A319s for some time.
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Following on from yesterdays launch of its Liverpool base, flyBE has said how pleased they are so far and have indicated what they intend to do in the future (some of which they have not said before) out of Liverpool.
So far they have taken 45000 bookings for the Belfast City route and a further 30000 for the routes to Glasgow and Edinburgh.
They have also repeated that they will serve routes to 'three or four destinations - places like Bourdeaux, Limoges, Bergerac in France'. They say that the plans for those routes will be announced around July or August for them to start in summer 2006. There is no mention of the additional Scottish route (thought to be Aberdeen).
They have also said that 'sun routes' to Malaga, Alicante, Almeria, Faro, Mercia and Palma are a possibility.
Also, they are hinting at serving Germany and Scandinavia, both of which do not feature currently in flyBE's network, from Liverpool.
So far they have taken 45000 bookings for the Belfast City route and a further 30000 for the routes to Glasgow and Edinburgh.
They have also repeated that they will serve routes to 'three or four destinations - places like Bourdeaux, Limoges, Bergerac in France'. They say that the plans for those routes will be announced around July or August for them to start in summer 2006. There is no mention of the additional Scottish route (thought to be Aberdeen).
They have also said that 'sun routes' to Malaga, Alicante, Almeria, Faro, Mercia and Palma are a possibility.
Also, they are hinting at serving Germany and Scandinavia, both of which do not feature currently in flyBE's network, from Liverpool.
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Flybe and easyjet head-to-head @ LPL
....from the previous post, the best of luck to Flybe if they decide to go head-to-head with EZY on routes such as AGP/ALC/PMI ex LPL... Surely a foolish move - the ej BFS/BE BHD competition will be interesting to watch - with EZY already having wiped the floor with BE (last time I checked) on lowest fares here, but to go head to head on identical destinations, that really would be interesting to watch...
More to the point, do the Airport Company not want a good selection of destinations operated by a diverse range of carriers over the longer term...? What's the point in having one play off against the other at an airport the size/type of LPL? Sure, a short term win in pax throughput and temporarily great for the consumer, but surely rather shortsighted on the part of the airport company. Regardless of what people out there may think, the airport company can and in many cases does have a significant input into the destinations served - and by whom - at a given airport. This means that the airlines are happier, the airport gets its desired links in the longer term, and it's a formula that DOES work. The consumer doesn't lose out either in the grand scheme of things because the route is able then to mature and develop with a decent and long term/reliable schedule. One only need look at a certain other rapidly expanding airport in the north of England where this works and works well - airline loyalty is also rewarded which is another important factor.
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More to the point, do the Airport Company not want a good selection of destinations operated by a diverse range of carriers over the longer term...? What's the point in having one play off against the other at an airport the size/type of LPL? Sure, a short term win in pax throughput and temporarily great for the consumer, but surely rather shortsighted on the part of the airport company. Regardless of what people out there may think, the airport company can and in many cases does have a significant input into the destinations served - and by whom - at a given airport. This means that the airlines are happier, the airport gets its desired links in the longer term, and it's a formula that DOES work. The consumer doesn't lose out either in the grand scheme of things because the route is able then to mature and develop with a decent and long term/reliable schedule. One only need look at a certain other rapidly expanding airport in the north of England where this works and works well - airline loyalty is also rewarded which is another important factor.
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Easy may very occasionally beat Flybe on fares from Belfast but, as previous well documented discussions on BFS/BHD have shown, there are two distinctly different markets being served by Easy and Flybe with more than fares being considerations.
The two compete on several routes ex Belfast and Flybe have shown that they can more than "hold their own" on most of them due, in no small part, to the convenient location of BHD as opposed to the not so convenient location of BFS.
Some pundits predicted that Easy would crucify Flybe when they started GLA & EDI almost 12 months ago - there is little evidence that is happening with healthy loads being experienced on both routes - expect the same will happen with LPL as already advance bookings stand at around 45000.
The two compete on several routes ex Belfast and Flybe have shown that they can more than "hold their own" on most of them due, in no small part, to the convenient location of BHD as opposed to the not so convenient location of BFS.
Some pundits predicted that Easy would crucify Flybe when they started GLA & EDI almost 12 months ago - there is little evidence that is happening with healthy loads being experienced on both routes - expect the same will happen with LPL as already advance bookings stand at around 45000.
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Quote :Robin Tudor, corporate affairs manager at JLA, said that it was not unusual to see routes to both airports and he was confident there was the market for both.
He said that Flybe's route may be particularly handy for business commuters because it landed closer to the city centre, in much the same way as VLM's flight to London City Airport, launched last year, allows easy access for passengers to the City.
He said that Flybe's route may be particularly handy for business commuters because it landed closer to the city centre, in much the same way as VLM's flight to London City Airport, launched last year, allows easy access for passengers to the City.
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There's a difference between flybe competing with easyJet by operating to Befast City compared to Belfast International, but are they seriously thinking of going head-head on a route like Malaga?
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Has anyone up there heard any rumours about a poss BRS-LPL route to challange Flybe EXT-LPL, theres a lot of talk in BRS about it at the mo, EZY and Air Southwest have been mentioned for the same route, Air Southwest already do BRS-MAN and LBA so who knows!
Also haveing previously worked in travel agents in the west country, there is enough intrest to sustain a YYZ route from EXT, i would guess that they would prefer to go in to BRS but the runway length is the problem there, and as G-I-B put it there is nothing else near EXT, whearas you lot have that certain other large airport just up the road, Apart from BRS the nearest YYZ route is out of CWL(summer charter only) BHX or LHR.
However a BRS service was going via GLA a few summers ago but the airline went bust, shame really, think it was Canada3000.
Also haveing previously worked in travel agents in the west country, there is enough intrest to sustain a YYZ route from EXT, i would guess that they would prefer to go in to BRS but the runway length is the problem there, and as G-I-B put it there is nothing else near EXT, whearas you lot have that certain other large airport just up the road, Apart from BRS the nearest YYZ route is out of CWL(summer charter only) BHX or LHR.
However a BRS service was going via GLA a few summers ago but the airline went bust, shame really, think it was Canada3000.
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Could be a good route i reckon, i would think more suited to WOW or BE, i'd be suprised if BE put it on because it would take business from the EXT route, however it would complement WOWs services from southwest to north.
Dont think EZY would fill a 737 daily on it though, but hey theyre full of suprises!
Dont think EZY would fill a 737 daily on it though, but hey theyre full of suprises!
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Dont think EZY would fill a 737 daily on it though, but hey theyre full of suprises!
There are rumours of some more easy routes from BRS to be announced soon. Might one be LPL?
Might impinge somewhat on WOW's BRS-MAN though.
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Ezy BRS -LPL is unlikely, ezy have not announced anew route or development out of LPL in nearly a year.
Any indication what the early flybe loads are like???
Wpuld a new EZY Nante route which has been touted elsewhere be with further based a/c or dilution of existing services???
Any indication what the early flybe loads are like???
Wpuld a new EZY Nante route which has been touted elsewhere be with further based a/c or dilution of existing services???
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Why is BRS unlikely? True! EZY haven't announced new routes for a while, which therefore makes me think its more likely to happen. EZY have to put their 737s from STN somewhere as the 319s are deliveredand we know LPL will remain a 737 base due maintenance.
May be early/late BRS rotation with Nantes in between?
May be early/late BRS rotation with Nantes in between?