New Delta UK routes?
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New Delta UK routes?
...the airline confirms that it would like to introduce further ex-UK services for next year but is constrained by a lack of suitably equipped aircraft ex-domestic Boeing 767s those available earmarked for proposed South American services. If these routes were not to be approved an extension of the Gatwick and Manchester fights are the most likely scenario, but new UK gateways have not been ruled out.
Ok, so its a big if, but if more routes were offered, would BHX or GLA be more likely?
Ok, so its a big if, but if more routes were offered, would BHX or GLA be more likely?
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How big is the market for SLC to LGW? It is certainly one of the larger US cities not served by direct flights from the UK. Would it be aimed at the winter market, or year round?
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Delta have tried JFK/MAN before and pulled of the route.
It would be nice to see CVG and a west cost destination out of Manchester.
Wasn't there also talk at one time of a second daily totation ex MAN to ATL.
It would be nice to see CVG and a west cost destination out of Manchester.
Wasn't there also talk at one time of a second daily totation ex MAN to ATL.
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yes there was. If you follow the thread on manchester happenings, there is a link to the company responsible for slot allocations. It says Delta applied for 2x daily slots to ATL for summer 2003, but unfortunately cancelled.
I agree that Manchester needs to see a West coast route!
I agree that Manchester needs to see a West coast route!
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GLA - ATL would be a good idea surely ........ the other three US carrier routes from Glasgow are to Chicago, Philadelphia and Newark ....... Nothing direct to the Southern states of the USA .........
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"Whats wrong with LHR ? have they ever tried for slots there ?"
Delta are not allowed LHR operations under the Bermuda2 ASA, in force until USA-EU open skies arrives......
don't hold your breath
Same for CO, NW, US. Only UA and AA allowed
"Whats wrong with LHR ? have they ever tried for slots there ?"
Delta are not allowed LHR operations under the Bermuda2 ASA, in force until USA-EU open skies arrives......
don't hold your breath
Same for CO, NW, US. Only UA and AA allowed
Delta are not allowed LHR operations under the Bermuda2 ASA, .....
Same for CO, NW, US. Only UA and AA allowed
Same for CO, NW, US. Only UA and AA allowed
One of the key reasons the US agreed to Bermuda in the first place is that likely competition from the UK at the time was B.Cal and Laker, both wedded to Gatwick and not interested in LHR, so the US side thought they would be 2 to 1 there. Virgin moving in to LHR changed all that.
Interesting to speculate therefore if United really start to be liquidated which other US airline would pick things up. The rights have to be worth a considerable sum, which unfortunately US carriers do not seem to have at the moment.
However because of the geographical restrictions in the agreement, Delta could not serve Atlanta from Heathrow, nor Orlando or Fort Lauderdale (which must be other close contenders for them) even if they bought the United rights. They could do JFK, Cincinnati and Salt Lake from there, plus any they bought (both current carriers do JFK already of course).
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"Interesting to speculate therefore if United really start to be liquidated which other US airline would pick things up."
That's a good question.
They all seem to be losing money right now - CO are less unstable than most, although they've reported losses too recently IIRC. They have a stronghold at EWR (a much better airport IMHO, but not sure if all pax would agree with that), and have been building up an excellent network of regional routes. LHR would give them a dominant position on UK - New York, but I don't know if it would be worth the considerable investment for them. Can't see US or NWA making much use of the slots - maybe BMI could change themselves to USMI and go for them
"Interesting to speculate therefore if United really start to be liquidated which other US airline would pick things up."
That's a good question.
They all seem to be losing money right now - CO are less unstable than most, although they've reported losses too recently IIRC. They have a stronghold at EWR (a much better airport IMHO, but not sure if all pax would agree with that), and have been building up an excellent network of regional routes. LHR would give them a dominant position on UK - New York, but I don't know if it would be worth the considerable investment for them. Can't see US or NWA making much use of the slots - maybe BMI could change themselves to USMI and go for them
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BHX-ATL
Birmingham must surely be in the running MAN, GLA etc are already well served to USA. BHX only has CO at the moment and the 2 daily services are generating 60-70% increase in BHX-US traffic.
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CO used a 764 into BHX today and from the continental website it looked quite full so BHX is obviously working for CO, about time they had some competition!
P.S. Wednesday isn't a day CO operate 2x daily
P.S. Wednesday isn't a day CO operate 2x daily