Inter welsh air links
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Actually...Jeremy Vine stressed the point that Air Wales was the airline in Wales and clearly stated that the debate was about the proposed link within Wales and was nothing to do with Air Wales.
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Rapid u-turn on behalf of the BBC then.... the programme was trailed as "Today's topic for your discussion is.... The Welsh assembly have called for their own national airline. Is this justified? Or a ridiculous proposition?"
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Caernarfon, or Valley?
Neither. It is a ridiculous proposition. I have seen the background reports on this, and even the most optimistic are showing a VERY large loss (are you listening, Welsh taxpayers?) for the first four years (which is as far as the figures go).
All the options considered are nuts:
Option 1— Round-Wales Service (one aircraft)
Scenario A — Cardiff, Haverfordwest, Anglesey, Hawarden
Scenario B — Cardiff, Haverfordwest, Anglesey
Option 2— Cardiff Hub
Scenario A — two aircraft operation - Cardiff, Anglesey, Cardiff, Swansea, Cardiff (repeat until dizzy), Aircraft Two does Cardiff, Hawarden, Cardiff, Haverfordwest (really!), Cardiff, again until dizzy.
Scenario B — one aircraft operation (excludes Hawarden) -
Option 3— Non-Cardiff Route opportunities
Scenario A — two aircraft operation - One does Hawarden, Swansea, Hawarden, Haverfordwest, Hawarden, Swansea, Hawarden, Haverfordwest, Hawarden. Number Two does Anglesey, Swansea, Anglesey, Haverfordwest, Anglesey, Swansea, Anglesey, Haverfordwest, Anglesey
Scenario B — one aircraft operation (excludes Hawarden).
Option 4– Inclusion of International Sectors - the most barking of the lot: Cardiff, Anglesey, Dublin, Anglesey, Cardiff, Swansea, Cardiff, Anglesey, Dublin, Anglesey, Cardiff
• No specific carrier has been assumed but airline costs are similar to those of a small independent regional carrier.
• The study is based on a 19-seat Dornier 228 turbo-prop.
Bet you Air Wales are going to go pop about number 4, unless they get to play! And they have finally managed to extricate themselves from SWS and I can't think they'd want to go back in a hurry.....
The poor, poor taxpayer.
TA
Neither. It is a ridiculous proposition. I have seen the background reports on this, and even the most optimistic are showing a VERY large loss (are you listening, Welsh taxpayers?) for the first four years (which is as far as the figures go).
All the options considered are nuts:
Option 1— Round-Wales Service (one aircraft)
Scenario A — Cardiff, Haverfordwest, Anglesey, Hawarden
Scenario B — Cardiff, Haverfordwest, Anglesey
Option 2— Cardiff Hub
Scenario A — two aircraft operation - Cardiff, Anglesey, Cardiff, Swansea, Cardiff (repeat until dizzy), Aircraft Two does Cardiff, Hawarden, Cardiff, Haverfordwest (really!), Cardiff, again until dizzy.
Scenario B — one aircraft operation (excludes Hawarden) -
Option 3— Non-Cardiff Route opportunities
Scenario A — two aircraft operation - One does Hawarden, Swansea, Hawarden, Haverfordwest, Hawarden, Swansea, Hawarden, Haverfordwest, Hawarden. Number Two does Anglesey, Swansea, Anglesey, Haverfordwest, Anglesey, Swansea, Anglesey, Haverfordwest, Anglesey
Scenario B — one aircraft operation (excludes Hawarden).
Option 4– Inclusion of International Sectors - the most barking of the lot: Cardiff, Anglesey, Dublin, Anglesey, Cardiff, Swansea, Cardiff, Anglesey, Dublin, Anglesey, Cardiff
• No specific carrier has been assumed but airline costs are similar to those of a small independent regional carrier.
• The study is based on a 19-seat Dornier 228 turbo-prop.
Bet you Air Wales are going to go pop about number 4, unless they get to play! And they have finally managed to extricate themselves from SWS and I can't think they'd want to go back in a hurry.....
The poor, poor taxpayer.
TA
