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Old 17th Nov 2004, 17:43
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Where are the longest and shortest Runways?

I've often wondered which airfields have the longest and shortest runways. I know the NASA landing facility is 15,000 ft but is there one longer than that? Also what is the shortest ILS runway? I think LHR 27R is the longest in England?

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Rwy 35 at Gatwick is quite short, but it's damn wide!

No approach lights except the odd C/C BMW in the crew car park.
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I think the Groom Lake (Area 51) strip is pretty huge...maybe there's something at Edwards AFB that's quite long as well...not sure if the lakebeds count though! Don't JFK and O'Hare have some biggish runways in terms of civil aviation?

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AFAIK:

Longest is at UWLW.

Shortest strip used for scheduled commercial flights is I believe at TNCS

No idea whether TNCS is ILS equipped. I presume it isn't.
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UWLW?

Well, I just had to look it up!

Rwy Size(ft) Surface
20/02 16490/310 CON



Here's the TAF. Light snow, I see they report wind speed in metres per second - different!!!


ULYANOVSK UWLW 172045Z 172207 27009MPS 3000 -SN BR BKN010CB TEMPO 2207 0500 +SHSN VV002

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Cheers for your replies so far, keep em coming.

results so far;

Saba (SAB/TNCS) runway 12/30 = 1,312ft non ILS

Heathrow, London (LHR/EGLL) runway 27R/09L = 12,802ft ILS
Chicago, O'Hare (ORD/KORD) runway 14R/32L = 14,000ft ILS
John F Kennedy, New York (JFK/KJFK) runway 13R/31L = 14,572ft ILS
NASA Shuttle Landing Facility (X15/????) runway 15/33 = 15,000ft ILS
Edwards AFB (EDW/KEDW) runway 04/22 = 15,013ft ILS
Ulyanovsk, Russia (ULY/UWLW) runway 02/20 = 16,404ft ILS
Groom Lake = NO DATA !!!

Would be interested see what others there are if anyone knows anymore.

TheOddOne - where do you get your info from? Only I got a different runway length for UWLW than you. Thanks.

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Gareth- as for your original question, as this is a Questions forum, I must ask this:
where does the use of the stray apostrophe as in "runway's" come from? It seems to be becoming prevalent these days- grocers (not 'grocer's'!) sell "Apple's". Why? Apple's what's? Lying in the doorway may be the grocer's dog. Overhead the threshold there may be the resident runway's crows. Kids may collect photographs (not 'photograph's) of runways.

The greatest threat to English is not the French or the American's (!), it's this wayward uncontrollable damned apostrophe. Slipped into the language by the damned Communist's (!)

I shall go to bed and wander how we can counter the assault of 'there', 'their', 'they're'. I suppose the Germans have the same problem- trying to learn when to use ein, eine, einer, einen, einem and eines- done me 'ed in!
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I shall go to bed and wander .............
I wonder what you mean, sleep walking perhaps?
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TheOddOne - where do you get your info from? Only I got a different runway length for UWLW than you. Thanks
Gaz,

I just Googled it!

Came up with

This

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A Google search suggests Groom Lake is 27000 ft.
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Have a look at Istres in Southern France
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Is that "Istre's"?
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Don't know the correct spelling ..but it's the French flight testing airfield
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Dundee is pretty short and I think I am right in saying it has ILS.










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Sorry Twonky, being a bit facetious. See above posting from me about wild, uncontrollable apostrophes!
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I shall go to bed and wander
Not So- While one is giving the lesson in English grammar I feel it is my duty...as I can't get a flying job I will concentrate on spelling, "Wander" is to wander as in aimlessly- "wonder" is to wonder as in specutively!
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Ok, some more

Dundee (DND/EGPN) runway 10/28 = 4,593ft ILS
Istres, Le Tub AB (LFMI) runway 15/33 = 12,303ft ILS
Las Vegas, McCarran (LAS/KLAS) runway 07L/25R = 14,510ft ILS
Groom Lake, Area 51 runway 14/32 = 27,000ft* (I would imagine this is ILS)

*from this site

Notso - must offer my sincere apologie's!!!!! for my use of uncontrolable apostrophie's!!!!!!

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Well, last year Denver got the longest paved rwy in USA - 16000ft.
The paved part of Area 51 rwy is about 15000 ft only.

Another big paved rwy I've heard about is Baikonur (Soviet space launch facility in Kazakstan), I believe it is about or even longer than Ulyanovsk (UWLW), but I cannot find the data.
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I will concentrate on spelling, "Wander" is to wander as in aimlessly- "wonder" is to wonder as in specutively!
GARDENER,

Did you mean "speculatively"?
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Wow, nobody's said Machrihanish / Campbeltown / CAL, which at 10003ft/3049m is amazingly long for its regular DH6 schedules from GLA. They can probably land using the width of the runway...

I'll not say anything else about the USAF, UFOs...
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