Bacx And Emb170
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Rumour has it form Cabin Crew Union meeting,that it is a done deal.
ERJ_170 all ex.ALITALIA !!!!!!!!!!!!
They supposedly don<t want them as part of their group reorganization<but had to take them in the first place as the contracts with Embraer were already signed.
ERJ_170 all ex.ALITALIA !!!!!!!!!!!!
They supposedly don<t want them as part of their group reorganization<but had to take them in the first place as the contracts with Embraer were already signed.
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They all have 2 mcdu. The picture in the link is of a prototype but its pretty close to what the line aircraft look like. Would be nice to teach some brits for a change......
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Scottie dog,
No, the only Embraer Jet product so far cleared for LCY ops is the ERJ135 (or the Legacy business jet variant) as long as it is fitted with the steep approach kit.
WNC
No, the only Embraer Jet product so far cleared for LCY ops is the ERJ135 (or the Legacy business jet variant) as long as it is fitted with the steep approach kit.
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I remember that when Swiss Airlines made their order for the ERJ-170/190 family of aircraft, one of the specifics of the deal was that they should be able to operate into LCY, as they were meant to replace Swiss' ARJ family of aircraft. I don't know whether this is still the case?
Is it now a confirmed deal that CitiExpress are to take in the ERJ-170? How many? Will some of these be based ex-BHX?
Just a related topic, can someone tell me the status of CitiExpress' flights from BHX to Spain. Maersk UK & British Airways Birmingham, used to operated flights for BA to MAD/BCN/AGP. Are these routes still operational, and if not will they be introduced again? Much need and demand for a full service airline to Spain from the Midlands. Would be very popular!
Is it now a confirmed deal that CitiExpress are to take in the ERJ-170? How many? Will some of these be based ex-BHX?
Just a related topic, can someone tell me the status of CitiExpress' flights from BHX to Spain. Maersk UK & British Airways Birmingham, used to operated flights for BA to MAD/BCN/AGP. Are these routes still operational, and if not will they be introduced again? Much need and demand for a full service airline to Spain from the Midlands. Would be very popular!
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BACX currently fly to BCN & MAD daily from BHX with a 146.
I believe AGP was just a summer (Saturday) only service but not sure if this has happened since the retirement of the B737-200/500 from BA/Maersk service at BHX
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I believe AGP was just a summer (Saturday) only service but not sure if this has happened since the retirement of the B737-200/500 from BA/Maersk service at BHX
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Lite is correct, EMB also tried to sell the 170 (still are) to flybe on that basis. Of course flybe have all but abandoned LCY now.
Flybe were promised that the aircraft would be LCY-capable, but it involved fitting a big airbrake and I'm not sure that they ever followed it through - it would be a very expensive mod for only a few airframes.
Flybe were promised that the aircraft would be LCY-capable, but it involved fitting a big airbrake and I'm not sure that they ever followed it through - it would be a very expensive mod for only a few airframes.
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Slightly off topic, but I'm sure that the EMB170 would be an excellent choice of aircraft for flybe, because it does have the capacity of its current favourite aircraft, the Dash 8-400, but with the added range that they desire from the 146, and I believe they have capability for some of the proposed 733 routes as well. Added benefit of being able to expand to the 175/190/195.
I think the 170 is a good choice for British Airways CitiExpress as well. I have been speaking to friends who work at United, and they are very happy with the aircraft. It operates a number of longer (2/3 hour) segments, and offers comfort that rivals some of their mainline jets. Are we going to see BA expansion from BHX? Could someone tell me the current list of destinations (incl. codeshare?). Does anyone think they will expand to Spain?
I think the 170 is a good choice for British Airways CitiExpress as well. I have been speaking to friends who work at United, and they are very happy with the aircraft. It operates a number of longer (2/3 hour) segments, and offers comfort that rivals some of their mainline jets. Are we going to see BA expansion from BHX? Could someone tell me the current list of destinations (incl. codeshare?). Does anyone think they will expand to Spain?
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I do understand that BA would like to expand (possibly taking on some of the ex DUO routes) but currently have a lack of aircraft.
They have been leasing in a Titan or/and Flightline BAe146 on some occasions recently to cover some routes from Brum.
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They have been leasing in a Titan or/and Flightline BAe146 on some occasions recently to cover some routes from Brum.
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EMB 170 repainted
I heard today that a EMB 170 ex Alitalia is being painted up in BA colours, don't know where.
Don't know who going to fly them either no body knows about any training for this aircraft, anybody know anything else?
Don't know who going to fly them either no body knows about any training for this aircraft, anybody know anything else?
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LCY capability was part of the oridginal Xair/SWISS deal but EMB delayed work on the LCY mod with the deferment of the SWISS order.
The ventral airbrake question is yet to be decided or so I've been told. When I flew the puppy at SJC last November we carried out a few steep approaches and in the flap 6 configuration it was reasonably speed stable. The snag is that if it's decided that an air brake is needed there have to be some changes to the FBW architecture to allow rapid pitch trim compensation.
Ref BACX certainly BRAL were on the verge of ordering before the merger...I seem to recall El Tel talking about a requirement for 25 in the initial 170 order with options for either 170s or 190s.
The ventral airbrake question is yet to be decided or so I've been told. When I flew the puppy at SJC last November we carried out a few steep approaches and in the flap 6 configuration it was reasonably speed stable. The snag is that if it's decided that an air brake is needed there have to be some changes to the FBW architecture to allow rapid pitch trim compensation.
Ref BACX certainly BRAL were on the verge of ordering before the merger...I seem to recall El Tel talking about a requirement for 25 in the initial 170 order with options for either 170s or 190s.
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Training Captain flying 170 @ BHX
A BACX training captain has been flying a EMB170 from BHX for a couple of weeks now, all the training manuals and the course notes are written up and ready for BACX.