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Old 23rd Aug 2005, 20:53
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Mr.Dearne, The Branton Hotel is a bit of initiative by a local guy. Peel have always wanted a 5 star hotel on the airport site,but wil be looking for an investor. I supose they stilll are,because even a 70 bedder will not fit in with future demand.



Lot of scope for all kinds of business (spin off if you like). The airport will be a massive catalyst.
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Old 23rd Aug 2005, 21:15
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Lot of scope for all kinds of business (spin off if you like). The airport will be a massive catalyst.
No doubt. Even with feet on the ground you can't help but feel optimistic.
It's certainly going to shape your side of town. I bet your council meetings are a little more animated these days.
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Meetings at Doncaster probably as boring as ever. Lots of gonna do's. Never been a town councillor lol

Incidentally Mr.Dearne. All South Yorks and beyond will get the goodies. Might help to fill some of your great new roads in the Dearne Valley,that seem to lead nowhere. Built in hope I guess.
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I think the Barnsley-Doncaster link needs to be improved for Barnsley to feel the full benefits of the airport. The A635 is far from perfect and of course there is no direct rail link.
Whereas Doncaster (in general) is being seen as a major transport hub/interchange and may see more of the likes of Redhouse Interchanges popping up, I think companies wanting to relocate might see Sheffield as a more attractive proposition for their commercial/marketing sector. Rotherham, I feel will benefit through the Sheffield-Doncaster corridor, and Bassetlaw and North West Lincs may well see further job creation opportunities and the knock on effects these will bring.
In any case Terry, I think the four major South Yorkshire towns, together with Bassetlaw and North West Lincs need to work closely together and forget about any indifferences. Regardless what others may say or think, I feel the airport is a potential gold mine and handled correctly, and in both in terms of Peels internal involvement and external support from the wider South Yorkshire area, we may well see something special.
Here’s hoping anyway
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I think the Barnsley-Doncaster link needs to be improved for Barnsley to feel the full benefits of the airport. The A635 is far from perfect and of course there is no direct rail link.
At least Barnsley has a bus to the airport, unlike Sheffield. When will there be a bus from Sheffield
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At least Barnsley has a bus to the airport, unlike Sheffield. When will there be a bus from Sheffield
I understand the £500k Sheffield City Council is going to get in some kind of compensation from Peel is being used to enhance links to DSA

http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/View...icleID=1097735

I am not sure what this involves but I did hear talk of a schedule coach service from Sheffield Midland Station.
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In answer to airhumberside. Sheffield has an excellent rail link to Doncaster. I think every 1/2 hour,and it is no more than 20 mins by bus from Doncaster Station to the airport. I see very many airport buses running through my village from various companies.

The only propblem area I see is North Lincs,and quite apart from the potential bottleneck at Gainsborough,there could be problems at Bawtry later. Mind you as far as Lincs is concerned,buses seem to be as rare as rocking horse sxxx,and that is anywhere in Lincs.
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Old 25th Aug 2005, 15:43
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Thomson Holidays have axed they weekly DSA sunday departures down to SSH for winter 2005/06 season.

There no longer on sale on the thomsons holidays web-site. Also its been talked about another pprune thread http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=187254
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Well, made my first trip to DSA by road since I attended the last Finningley airshow. Took about 50 minutes as expected from west Sheffield at midday.

The road links are poor though, it's almost as though that area south of Doncaster was sealed off when the M18/A1M junctions were planned way back whenever - I wonder if that was deliberate?

Does anyone know when the proposed link road from the M18 starts construction and when it will open?
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The link road is to be from junc 3 of the M18,and is in planning stage,so I expect sometime in next million years lol.

Should take at least 10-15 mins off travel time from Sheffield.
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Well, made my first trip to DSA by road since I attended the last Finningley airshow. Took about 50 minutes as expected from west Sheffield at midday.
I think coming from the west of Sheffield (or Sheffield/Rotherham in general) your probably better taking the M18 via the M1 route. If you come off at junction 3 (M18) it's pretty plain sailing from there on.
I wouldn't have advised using the back roads south of Doncaster and Rotherham.
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Just a couple of aviation points to bear in mind regarding the Peel investment at SZD.

Firstly Peel have only ever owned 50% so have never had outright control of the airport.

Peel invested in it in August 2001 after others had been approached and no others would, and it was stated at the Finningley public inquiry that SZD would have had to close (for financial reasons) if no investor was found. In August '01, Aer Arann and BA were the only 2 scheduled services left and Aer Arann pulled straight after 9/11, BA pulling not long after when they pulled services from several UK regional airports.

At the Inquiry, Peel stated they would make a go of it (still prior to 9/11) but that with SN and KLM already having pulled out, it would be difficult to convince other airlines. The likes of Flybe and others with the smaller aircraft said, and repeated recently to a York Aviation study, that they were not interested possibly as even their aircraft fleet was changing. Operators like ezy, Ryan, Thomsons and Mytravel all stated in written submissions to the inquiry that they had no aircraft small enough for SZD.

Unlike SZD, Finningley was seen by the airlines to have the product potential they need and they have been true to their words - with the possible exception of Mytravel, but thats a different story.
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The link road is to be from junc 3 of the M18,and is in planning stage,so I expect sometime in next million years lol.
Shame about the link road, for some reason I thought it had all been planned to open quite soon after the airport.

J3 M18 does seem to be the best way though you have to drive virtually into Doncaster and out again.
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You DSA supporters seem to of gone quiet lately. Are FR still opening a base at DSA?
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Not really, we tend to use the forum on the other website to the airport.

Bits & pieces

Phase two of the landside area is due to open in October.

Finally the motorway signs to the airport have been agreed on and will go up within the next four weeks.

A 747 will be in on October 9th for three cargo runs of wine.

As for Ryanair a good source says they are still coming in.
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As for Ryanair a good source says they are still coming in.
Would this be a base or simply flights in from others bases to complement the Dublin service?
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Old 17th Sep 2005, 20:40
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"As for Ryanair a good source says they are still coming in."

yes, once a day Dublin.

I guess "he" (the letter "N" I believe his surname begins with) feel's a bit small at the moment......

As I have said many many many times before in my posts, it just aint gonna happen.....

Welcome to the real world Peel!

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Phil it would be four based aircraft.

Bombardier, I have no idea who you're talking about. But on the Ryanair front I guess we will see by christmas.
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Haven't read the whole of this thread, so apologies if the answer is in here already.

Just wondered why no centre-line lights were put into the runway? Is it a hangover from RAF Finningley and if so, why didn't they put them in when they resurfaced it before commercial ops started? Was it just a budget thing?

I flew in there last week for the first time in the darkness and with heavy rain falling and I was very close to going around in the flare as it all turned black!

The edge lights disappear out of your peripheral vision (it being so bloody wide) and you see nothing when you look straight ahead! Not comfortable and I am sure it will lead to plenty of go-arounds/ diversions come the winter weather.....

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Pilot Pete....

Picked up some friends about 0030 on 16th. and they said they had a go round too. The weather appeared fine although it had been raining heavily earlier..
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