New development work for LTN
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There is a new 4ft wall being built that is being in-filled to produce a level stand. There is not enough land between this wall, which must mark the northern edge of the stand and taxiway echo to allow for an aircraft to gain the extra height. Access must be via the north and main aprons which would mean that aircraft would be blocked in by aircraft on stands 40R and 9L
This has all been successfully modelled by LLAO and approved by the CAA and so it must be viable even if it looks a bit tight to the naked eye.
As to the Macquarie Airports and TBI rumour, Macquarie has one of Luton's former senior commercial executives on its Board - a lacklustre individual who it has to be said, was singularly ineffective during his time, in promoting Luton as a viable London Airport. If Macquarie does take over TBI, they'd best keep him well away from Luton!!
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It is increasingly looking like stands 60, 61 and 9L won’t be finished in time for the new Ryanair fleet due into Luton Mid January. Also the move of the easyjet tent, which is taking up two stands on the eastern apron, has been suspended, as the tent is not up to the move. So just where are these aircraft going to be parked over night?
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Along with other airports, LTN are now actively working on plans to expand the airport in line with the goverment's white paper proposals, a snippet.......
Project 2030 launched to grow London Luton Airport 23/12/2004
London Luton Airport – Project 2030
Statement of Intent – December 2004
Introduction
In December 2003, Government published its long-awaited White Paper The Future of Air Transport, which finally provided the aviation industry and UK plc with a clear, national, strategic framework for the development of air travel over the next 30 years.
The White Paper clearly outlined the crucial role London Luton can play in the delivery of future runway capacity in the South East. Government has challenged all airport operators to deliver the policies enshrined in this document – we relish this opportunity.
Government forecasts suggest that there is the demand to justify expansion of Luton to the potential of a full-length single runway (circa 30mppa), in the period up to 2030, even with two new runways at other South East airports. We endorse this forecast and since publication of the White Paper we have actively commenced preliminary consultation with key stakeholders and strategic decision-makers, at national, regional and local level, with a view to developing common strategic principles and priorities, and communicating the importance of London Luton in delivering Government policy, as defined in the Future of Aviation White Paper, the Transport Bill and the Communities Plan.
We intend, subject to market conditions, to bring forward major development proposals pre-2015. With this in mind, we intend to publish a ‘fuller treatment’ of development plans, as required in Guidance on the Preparation of Airport Master Plans. However, our experience as a ‘no-frills’ airport operators clearly tells us this Master Plan must be flexible and responsive to the market, reflecting the dynamic nature of the airports sector.
A full report can be seen on the LTN wensite.
Project 2030 launched to grow London Luton Airport 23/12/2004
London Luton Airport – Project 2030
Statement of Intent – December 2004
Introduction
In December 2003, Government published its long-awaited White Paper The Future of Air Transport, which finally provided the aviation industry and UK plc with a clear, national, strategic framework for the development of air travel over the next 30 years.
The White Paper clearly outlined the crucial role London Luton can play in the delivery of future runway capacity in the South East. Government has challenged all airport operators to deliver the policies enshrined in this document – we relish this opportunity.
Government forecasts suggest that there is the demand to justify expansion of Luton to the potential of a full-length single runway (circa 30mppa), in the period up to 2030, even with two new runways at other South East airports. We endorse this forecast and since publication of the White Paper we have actively commenced preliminary consultation with key stakeholders and strategic decision-makers, at national, regional and local level, with a view to developing common strategic principles and priorities, and communicating the importance of London Luton in delivering Government policy, as defined in the Future of Aviation White Paper, the Transport Bill and the Communities Plan.
We intend, subject to market conditions, to bring forward major development proposals pre-2015. With this in mind, we intend to publish a ‘fuller treatment’ of development plans, as required in Guidance on the Preparation of Airport Master Plans. However, our experience as a ‘no-frills’ airport operators clearly tells us this Master Plan must be flexible and responsive to the market, reflecting the dynamic nature of the airports sector.
A full report can be seen on the LTN wensite.
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There's no shortage of stands at LTN - just contact stands in the short term. The south stands came into use for the Air Atlanta 742 on the 23rd.
My understanding is that the work on the new contact stands has been slowed because they found a gas main in the way and TRANSCO - the gas pipeline have along lead in time and are the onlly people who can move it - "Don't call us you need the gas board", so we called Britsih Gas and they said "gas pieplines nothing to do with us you need the Water Board so we called that's life.... (Sic)".. result - unexpected delay.
It would appear that Luton Borough Council never drew up any plans of where they put services and the like so everything has to be treated with caution. This could explain the hand-digging that's been going on with regard to the pier project.
I guess bussing of pax will be the norm for a bit longer.
If eJ don't leave the tent soon, then they had better start repatching it - it looks a right mess when you get close up. A permanent solution has to be on the cards for easytech surely??
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My understanding is that the work on the new contact stands has been slowed because they found a gas main in the way and TRANSCO - the gas pipeline have along lead in time and are the onlly people who can move it - "Don't call us you need the gas board", so we called Britsih Gas and they said "gas pieplines nothing to do with us you need the Water Board so we called that's life.... (Sic)".. result - unexpected delay.
It would appear that Luton Borough Council never drew up any plans of where they put services and the like so everything has to be treated with caution. This could explain the hand-digging that's been going on with regard to the pier project.
I guess bussing of pax will be the norm for a bit longer.
If eJ don't leave the tent soon, then they had better start repatching it - it looks a right mess when you get close up. A permanent solution has to be on the cards for easytech surely??
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the move of the easyjet tent, which is taking up two stands on the eastern apron, has been suspended, as the tent is not up to the move
The plan is now for easyTech/FLS to lease Britannia's Hangar 89 on which Britannia has an 18 month lease outstanding. After that, guess easyTech/FLS will lease direct.
Since the late 80's, the builders have been there and what is there to show for it in terms of passenger convenience and improvements?
Instead of making negatively inaccurate and subjective statements perhaps Vking9, you'd enlighten us all as to what exactly you define as 'passenger convenience and improvements'??
Better still, why not visit before making comment...
Whilst many BAA shareholders no doubt consider LTN to be of little or no significance in terms of business competition, those who see the Airport as a 'has-been Cinderella' ought now to wise up, and do so rapidly.
Providing all goes well, effective 04 January 2005, TBI and therefore, the Luton operating company LLAO will be owned by Abertis/AENA. For those who don't know, AENA is the Spanish version of BAA combined with the UK's NATS. The Company's book value far exceeds even BAA's and its expertise in running airports is equivalent to BAA's and of running air traffic control, equal to NATS. And it ain't gonna lie back, be pushed around and just let it happen guys, BELIEVE ME!!!!
It's also arguably the best thing that has happened to LTN since the local Borough Council ceased running the Airport.
Cynics BE WARY of judging the future by the past...
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I've noticed recently that the new Harrods Aviation apron (Stand 62) has been brought into use for the parking of executive aircraft that are staying "a while" (usually a few days)
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My comment was just aimed at my last experience of LTN as a passenger, which admittedly was earlier in the year. Check in with EZY was just that, easy. From there on it went down hill. Having to do a 180 and head towards the security channels to find 3 scanning areas open and literally hundreds of passengers queing in a snake like fashion and in a painfully slow manner moving towards the scanners. Once the gate had been reached, I was then hurded onto a bus and driven what was about 100 yards to the awaiting aircraft.
On the return, I parked on stand 13 I believe and had to wait 15 minutes for a bus to take me to the terminal where again, I had to wait over 30 minutes for my luggage.......
Stand 13 was used because no stands were available terminal side and not because the aircraft had finished its duty for the day. I know that because the crew told me they were turning round for another 2 sectors (I knew the purser).
Not a negative comment, just my opinion of an airport that appears to have not kept up with others around the UK. Having worked there on and off since the early 80's, I've seen bad attempts at what is called "expansion". It's a building site with a runway.
Happy Christmas to one and all.
My comment was just aimed at my last experience of LTN as a passenger, which admittedly was earlier in the year. Check in with EZY was just that, easy. From there on it went down hill. Having to do a 180 and head towards the security channels to find 3 scanning areas open and literally hundreds of passengers queing in a snake like fashion and in a painfully slow manner moving towards the scanners. Once the gate had been reached, I was then hurded onto a bus and driven what was about 100 yards to the awaiting aircraft.
On the return, I parked on stand 13 I believe and had to wait 15 minutes for a bus to take me to the terminal where again, I had to wait over 30 minutes for my luggage.......
Stand 13 was used because no stands were available terminal side and not because the aircraft had finished its duty for the day. I know that because the crew told me they were turning round for another 2 sectors (I knew the purser).
Not a negative comment, just my opinion of an airport that appears to have not kept up with others around the UK. Having worked there on and off since the early 80's, I've seen bad attempts at what is called "expansion". It's a building site with a runway.
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Not a negative comment, just my opinion of an airport that appears to have not kept up with others around the UK
Flew from EMA Monday morning for a change. What a mistake. Security lines stretching back to the cash machines at just after 06:00 (compare to about 20 people in the line at BHX the week before when I flew out at a similar time), which meant that they had to call forward passengers for some flights, making the wait in the queue for those of us who were considerate and checked in within a reasonable time even longer. Two x-ray machines not being used - wake up NEMA, its your busiest time of day so use ALL of the facilities and process the passengers reasonably quickly.
Agreed this is probably down to the handling agents but it still gives bad service and a poor impression of the airport.
Whilst it's true that the security queues are over-long at LTN, once the terminal re-vamp has been completed I think you'll find that passenger processing will improve there although in today's security climate, it'll never be like it was pre-9/11.
Bussing will also cease as there will be the first of two new piers with boarding gates serving six stands - but many times at Heathrow I've arrived on a domsetic flight and having been parked on an 'international' stand, have also been loaded onto a bus that's taken us to an arrival gate elsewhere, after which I've been faced with a 10 minute walk to enter the terminal proper.
Stansted doesn't fair that much better at 'peak' times.
Give it another go after June and see if things at LTN haven't improved somewhat!
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CAP670 I see what you mean, but then I don't use EMA any longer and yes, baggage problems are most likely caused by handlers OR the bad facilities they have to use. STN security zone can be a nightmare at times, but all know about the BAA don't we 
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Bussing will also cease as there will be the first of two new piers with boarding gates serving six stands
Bussing will still exist but nowhere near the levels of today.
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I believe that once the Luton terminal extensions/expansions have been completed in June/July the security processing capacity will be doubled and so in theory, the time taken to pass through should be halved. Not sure if a 'fast track' channel will also become available for business club card holders.
From what information is currently available, the terminal building facilities at Luton will compare very favourably with Gatwick's North Terminal and Birmingham's although there won't yet be air bridges provided (neither easyJet, Wizz or Ryanair favour these anyway as their turnaround times can then be lengthened).
The two issues that will remain to cause difficulty will be the local road access and the potential for 'local' air traffic control delays, both caused by lack of updated infrastructure (roads & airspace) trying to cope with significantly more traffic (vehicles & aircraft).
The M1 widening and dual carriageway to the Airport that LTNman speaks about won't improve access to/from the east via the A1M or to/from the west i.e. Aylesbury/Oxford areas.
Still, maybe the DfT as it's done for Stansted, will put taxpayers' money into some road improvements in these areas!
Pigs of course, might also fly...
From what information is currently available, the terminal building facilities at Luton will compare very favourably with Gatwick's North Terminal and Birmingham's although there won't yet be air bridges provided (neither easyJet, Wizz or Ryanair favour these anyway as their turnaround times can then be lengthened).
The two issues that will remain to cause difficulty will be the local road access and the potential for 'local' air traffic control delays, both caused by lack of updated infrastructure (roads & airspace) trying to cope with significantly more traffic (vehicles & aircraft).
The M1 widening and dual carriageway to the Airport that LTNman speaks about won't improve access to/from the east via the A1M or to/from the west i.e. Aylesbury/Oxford areas.
Still, maybe the DfT as it's done for Stansted, will put taxpayers' money into some road improvements in these areas!
Pigs of course, might also fly...
