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Old 17th Jul 2004, 03:33
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poor islandsflug

Poor old islandsflug, their first year with a based crew at BRS and look what they have had to endure:

Delay upon delay due to tech problem's and when they are not tech they get lumped with hefty ATC delays, to top it all off this morning the HH CFU/BRS bags ended up on the HH CFU/NCL and vice-versa meaning the NCL bound aircraft had to stop at BRS and then wait half an hour for the NCL bags to be re-loaded when it arrived!!!

I'm sure every airport has one airline each season who has the worst of everything; My question is who will be next!?
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Old 17th Jul 2004, 23:35
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Is this the aircraft they are operating on behalf of Meridian Aviation ?

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Old 18th Jul 2004, 08:59
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All flights are operated for Kosmar holidays with the exception of the weekly rotation on monday BRS - ACE which is operated for My Travel.
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Admittedly Islandflug have brought some of their problems on their own heads. Crew reporting 30 minutes or less prior to pushback (or even after departure time!) is never going to lead to an on time departure. Similarly, filing flight plans 30 minutes prior to departure is inevitably going to lead to slot restrictions, especially when there are only so many arrivals permitted at certain HH destinations. Also, the obsession with their toilets (TF-ELJ in particular) helps to delay flights, as the crew and engineer insist they are repeatedly dropped time and time again due to the minging condition of the system on board, and not because they haven't been serviced.

Miraculously, things have improved in the last few weeks as they now have a base manager. Crews now turn up on time for the flight. Departure times on the flight plan have been 'cooked' so that a 3 hour slot delay will now allow an on time departure (very smart - I like it), though they're knackered if that doesn't happen because the crew won't even be at the airport at that time of the morning.
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Old 22nd Jul 2004, 22:18
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Witchdoctor is right to a certain extent. Crew report times at BRS still aren't 100% even though the summer season is more than half way through. As far as tech delays are concerned, they're bound to seem to be more exacerbated for an airline with comparatively few aircraft...
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Old 24th Jul 2004, 16:26
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saying all of that their i/b rho/brs arrived 30 mins early and their o/b kgs looks like its going out on time.

I must sit down and have a stiff drink!!!
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Old 24th Jul 2004, 19:57
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Wink

Islandsflug are a shoestring outfit with a lot of good people working hard for them.however good will only lasts so long, what everyone wants at the end of the day is decent pay for not too long of a weeks work, Two things you wont get working for HH. I know, I used to work for them. The only thing poor in Islandsflug are the Crews/engineers in all the Outstations keeping the show on the road
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Old 25th Jul 2004, 06:50
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They are owned by the same guy that owns Air Atlanta - and it shows.
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Old 25th Jul 2004, 18:41
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They are rewriting their own delay codes now:-

Todays hour delay was due to 'CREW REST'!!!
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Old 26th Jul 2004, 12:42
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Rewriting their own delay codes?? Try IATA delay code 63, which was used for this departure.
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Old 26th Jul 2004, 12:53
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hey everyone...

i work for islandsflug in DUB base, and i am afraid to say anything, incase my station manager is one of you!!! lol

but, yeah, its a little annoying when they hire "experienced" flight and cabin crew; and they cant even issue a roster 7 days in advance, and as for the pay.... i'm having beans for dinner tonight!
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Old 29th Jul 2004, 16:33
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The HH engineer was standing beside the ramp crew the other day, he phoned the load controller who was in his office about half a mile away and asked for a GPU!
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Old 30th Jul 2004, 08:48
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indeed. He'd be better off trying the ops controller for equipment. Load controllers are effectively unconnected with Islandflug seeing as the captain has to do his own loadsheet. Wonder if any of them know what the numbers are for the compartments in the hold yet?
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Old 30th Jul 2004, 11:40
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"The captain has to do his own load sheet" SHOCK HORROR!!!

It wasn't so many years ago that this was the NORM on shorthaul charter and schedule.

We would prepare the outbound load and trim sheet in Ops and the inbound whilst in the cruise, as far as we could go. As soon as the load advice arrived we filled in the numbers, calculated the trim and off we went.

My wife, a senior traffic officer for a major pax and freight carrier, can still do a manual load and trim sheet for a B747-200F.

Even though we have a lot of automation on the flight deck we still retain our manual skills.
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Old 30th Jul 2004, 17:41
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Does anyone have details on the Islandsflug diversion yesterday, enroute ACE from DUB, smoke in the cockpit mentioned. Rumour has it the aircraft continued after a short stop but had to dirvert a second time......?
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Old 30th Jul 2004, 23:33
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Witchdoctor - we've been doing Codeco loadsheets for HH all summer - our a/c is w/b approved! Even so, you would have thought that the engineer would know that the ramp staff deal with GPU's - why call the load controller? DOH!
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Old 31st Jul 2004, 18:23
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Witchdoctor - we do Codeco loadsheets for our absed HH aircraft; it's w/b approved! Wonder why your's isn't?
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Redfield,

Sorry bud, but at NCL HH do their own loadsheets following a small matter of a flight deck induced load cock up a few weeks back. Aircraft not to be loaded until flight deck and senior ramp have spoken, and flight deck do a manual loadsheet once we provide the P&W.

Interested to know at which north east station you do something different?
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Old 10th Aug 2004, 10:05
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F/D do their own load sheets at EMA too........I think it should be that way. Keep the balls in the cockpit - not in the dispatchers court.
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Old 15th Aug 2004, 12:05
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Balls is about right he would need plenty to fly them!
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