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Old 12th Jul 2004, 12:58
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Question Longest scheduled SH360 route...

Hi there,

Was reading the thread about the longest ATR route around at the mo and was wondering what the longest scheduled route is in a shed?? Remember seeing Air Seychelles' shed at EXT once having had a paint job and thinking it must take weeeeeeks to get it there.

Just wondering.

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Longest passenger scheduled Shed (360) route is: Port Hardy - Vancouver (Canada) flown by Pacific Coastal Airlines. It's only 212 statute miles, but is scheduled for 1 hour and 10 minutes.

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longest Shed route

Longest I ever did was Hamburg to Paris CDG......2hrs 30 (sometimes longer) and no bog on board!!!!

Was a freight route (probably still is) but was a regular schedule all the same.

longest trip (single sector) I did was Basle to Coventry....took ages!

The Seychelles delivery flight took about 5 days....longest leg was Mombasa to Mahe....needed ferry tanks


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Long Haul Shed Routes

After depositing a cargo of day old chicks (the yellow fluffy and very smelly variety) in Angelholm, Sweden; managed to fly into a headwind nonstop back to Luton.

It required a bit of throttling back to avoid stopping enroute, but made it back for a block time of 4h10mins, I reckon the distance was around 600 miles. And yes, the shed is that slow, and yes we were bursting for a wiz when we got back.
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I remember the good old Guernsey Airlines days.....MAN-JER/GCI in a SH330. With a headwind you could see the motorway traffic overtaking you 7000' below!
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I agree was hideous sometimes doing GCI Man in a headwind!

As SLF couldn't believe how long it took and how deaf I was in one ear when I got there!
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Ya gotta love the Shed though!!
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Old 13th Jul 2004, 14:44
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Cheers all, quite interesting to hear.

Think they're great little aircraft and would love to bum around in one for a bit but it appears they have all deserted the UK. Think Aer Arran might be the closest bet to get a ride in one.

Was chatting to an ex-shed F/O once and he had some pretty cool stories to tell so a bit of a shame I can't use one for my ATPL studies! Beats a Seneca for IR I bet.
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I once did SEA-YVR in a Time Air 360 and then flew back on a Dornier 328 in half the time so they must be slow or the 328 very fast.

I'm not looking forward to flying in one up to Port Hardy from Vancouver but it has to be done to get a ride in one of Pacific Coastal's Grumman Geese.
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Do Aurigny not still fly them??
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Despite ATPL groundschool, I still wonder how they actually fly - little thin wings and a (relatively) big, boxy, un-aerodynamic body (how's that for a technical synopsis - must try that one at interview!). Would love to fly one!
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No more 360's at Aer Arran, now all ATR's.

I suspect one of the longest scheduled 360 routes was an Aer Lingus from Cork to Rennes, they used to have a regular option to drop in to Exeter for fuel, as the margins didn't always allow direct non stop.

For all the complaints, I recall many happy hours on 360's flying from Bristol to Dublin with a great bunch of people from Aer Lingus, back in the days when all I had was a PPL, and that aircraft was one of the deciding factors on the decision to go for the CPL. It was a lot easier to get on a jump seat in those days too.

Just a pity that Saddam got in the way!!! I got the CPL, and did the ATPL exams too, but the jobs all went west after Gulf War 1.
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aurigny still use them for the night mail and jer gci route. due tech aircraft they sent a trislander fully laden jer-brs with a good northerly a while back...took about a day im told...
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Come to think of it Aurigny do still fly them. Think they do Guernsey - Jersey, Guernsey / Jersey - Dinard from memory.

Was down at GCI last year and saw the same a/c (G-BMLC I think) half a dozen times as it hopped around the place. Think it was also used for summer charters to Manston, Staverton, Bournemouth etc.

British European used to fly one around between EXT and BHX / Channel Islands too.

Aaaah, the golden days of old. Need to sort a trip in one sometime before they're all gone!
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They are still being flown in and out of EDI
HERE
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Aurigny do, but now fly ex Loganair S360s.

A friend just got an FO position with them, not much future for these aeroplanes though. I think they do an occaisional NEMA run and been into Cranfield too on adhock charters.

Emerald fly alot for cargo, including G-BMLC and G-SSWC.

I was informed that the fuselage on the shed generates about 30% of the lift.


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Old 15th Jul 2004, 12:20
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Emerald fly 10 sheds and one 330 around the UK on freight routes. However unless you happen to be awake at 1am you might not see us!

We do some longish routes too such as Luton to Kassel (Germany, 2.30ish) and currently LBG - MRS which is 2.20-2.30ish.

However most of them fly in and out of CVT. Glad to see there is still some support for the Shed - it keeps us out of trouble too!
 
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Theres also a weekly Shed trip from Jersey to Gloucester and return during the summer months.....the 'Blue Rinse' Shuttle to the Sun!
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Must say Gloucester seems like an odd choice of destination. Think Manston is also on the cards during the summer months.

Question about the Shed then...

Was reading a thread about Emerald in the cargo forum and one of the posts stated that a lot of the routes were hand flown. Does this include the 360?? If so, can anyone describe hand flying it for 2 hours 30 mins into the middle of Germany?? Must be quite a tiring experience I would imagine!

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Half Emerald's shed have autopilots. As these only benefit aircrew, they are not specifically placed on the routes where we would like them!!

So the rest are handflown. Not especially hard, often boring. However, interesting in poor weather or when trying to stay awake!
 


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