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Old 14th Jul 2004, 08:51
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Says they'll be using an A330 in the pdf document that can be opened via the above link.

Isn't that what you'd expect given it would seem to be designed to find employment for the 3rd machine between the Carribean flights?

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Old 14th Jul 2004, 10:05
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added to the fact that bmi don't have any A340's!!
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Elgan - the 4th A330, G-WWBC was delivered to Emirates.

Ref the A340, it has been gossip around the bmi camp for several weeks that the next wide-body in the fleet will be an A340, not an A330, probably leased-in.
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The 340 will be used on the ORD route apparently.
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MAN_Dispatcher, thanks v much for that info.
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Can I just sat once again..... bmi DO NOT HAVE ANY A340's... if another twin aisled aircraft is to join the bmi fleet it would be an A330.
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Old 15th Jul 2004, 10:30
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I think if you read MAN_Dispatcher
He says about leasing in an aircraft and I think there are A340-300 around, including Virgin who I`m sure have aircraft available as the A340-600 come on stream

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bmi will not buy/lease/borrow a 340 for one simple reason - it will not fit in with the policy of making all 330 pilots mixed short-haul/long-haul (MFF).

MFF is being extended now to all the 330 drivers, and we can't MFF fly 320/330 and 340 (maximum of two types at once). So the 340 would be too restrictive. Any further aircraft purchase would have to be a 330 to fit in with the present system.

However, the Vegas flights (if they go ahead - time is now short) seem to be timed to utilise the existing aircraft in between the Caribbean routes. So another aircraft would not be needed.

Also, the 330 would be able to fly the route comfortably - even with pax & cargo
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I think you may be a bit premature to assume that the whole 330 fleet will be MFF

unless you have knowledge to the contrary, in which case apologies in advance
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Old 15th Jul 2004, 12:52
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teifi,

No aplogies necessary

Most of us already are MFF, and those who are not are gradually finding A320 renewals appearing on their rosters!

Even as it stands at the moment, there would not be enough 330 only drivers to enable a viable 330/340 MFF operation. Let alone the cost/complication of having over half the fleet MFF 320/330, and the rest 330/340....can you imagine the number of new memos and SOP's that would generate ?!
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Old 16th Jul 2004, 11:17
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who's to say the A340 will be flown by BMI drivers ?????

maybe a damp lease brought in ?????
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Old 16th Jul 2004, 18:52
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Just to add to the A330/340 debate!!

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/st...517184714.html
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Old 16th Jul 2004, 20:10
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Ahh yes...the 'four engined A330'. That clears things up then
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Old 16th Jul 2004, 20:47
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It must be true - the Americans have announced it! The A330 + 2
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Old 16th Jul 2004, 21:56
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I believe the talk of a 340 to be true, but word is that it will be for an as yet unannounced MAN-LAX route.
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Confirmed and now bookable


bmi expands long haul services from Manchester –
- new service launched to Las Vegas
- improved schedule and routing for Caribbean services

bmi, the UK’s second largest full service scheduled airline, is to further expand and develop its long haul services from Manchester this winter. The airline is launching direct flights to Las Vegas as well as making significant enhancements to its new Caribbean services.

Flights to Las Vegas launch Sunday 31 October 2004 and will operate three times a week, on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays. Seats go on sale today and are bookable at www.flybmi.com or by calling bmi reservations on 0870 60 70 222. Special offer launch fares are available, starting at £399 return inclusive of taxes and charges.
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The Caribbean developments are the addition of a Monday flight to St Lucia by the look of it...

Also doing some extra flights to Barbados around Christmas!

I presume they must be doing better than they had thought of in the Caribbean????????????????

Looks like things are looking up for their longhaul stuff!!! Good luck to them!
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Old 19th Jul 2004, 14:37
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Hope that one of their A330s doesn't go bang this winter - could be a fair bit of expensive subbing if it does!

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Old 19th Jul 2004, 15:08
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MAN LAS OCT/31 0700 BD ->

[1] MAN LAS 31/0935 31/1255 BD751 C9 D9 J9 U9 L9 Y9 S9 B9 K9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 G9 W9 T9 N9 E4 [332]
MAN LAS NOV/02 0700 BD ->

[1] MAN LAS 02/0935 02/1255 BD751 C9 D9 J9 U9 L9 Y9 S9 B9 K9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 G9 W9 T9 N9 E4 [332]
MAN LAS NOV/04 0700 BD ->

[1] MAN LAS 04/0935 04/1255 BD751 C9 D9 J9 U9 L9 Y9 S9 B9 K9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 G9 W9 T9 N9 E4 [332]
Does that settle that debate, then?
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Old 24th Jul 2004, 10:54
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Hope that one of their A330s doesn't go bang this winter - could be a fair bit of expensive subbing if it does!
Aah, you mean like one of them did at the beginning of last week & threw the YYZ (& possibly ORD?) operation into chaos?!? Last I heard, there was a broken A330 in Goose Bay with no crew to bring it home?

If the plan is to operate 4 routes with one aircraft, as far as I can see, there is absolutely no slack in the system for something to go wrong. Which, inevitably, it does.

Hope they've done their homework.
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