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BMI, more routes!!!
Just been speaking to my friend who work for BMI at there head office, and from what she has told me they are looking at a few new routes. LA, San Fran and Miami. She also said that the Washington look like it is goiing to go.
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When you say "she works for bmi" - does she actually get involved in any decision making like this, or is it just their own internal rumours - ie if she was a finance clerk or worked in the kitchen she probably wouldn't be a good source.
Especially, which is why I've responded, considering that American Airlines have already announced Manchester to Miami..... would bmi really go up against them???
And how many times have I seen that their Washington is going to go on here.......
Especially, which is why I've responded, considering that American Airlines have already announced Manchester to Miami..... would bmi really go up against them???
And how many times have I seen that their Washington is going to go on here.......
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She actually works in the HR dept and informed me that she has just come out of a meeting and they have been told that there is going to be a massive recruitment drive at manchester for the long haul ops
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no, no, no,
A bit harsh to say a finance clerk wouldn't be a good source, they do get involved in the costings on new routes, you know.
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The recruitment drive would be for the new routes, already announced, to the Caribbean in time for the winter timetable?
bmi will fly to India before anywhere else, this will be when the Toronto flight finishes at the end of summer, subject to Government approval.
As for LA, San Fran and Miami, surely new shiney planes are required before this happens!
Happy flying!
A bit harsh to say a finance clerk wouldn't be a good source, they do get involved in the costings on new routes, you know.
Kestral1
The recruitment drive would be for the new routes, already announced, to the Caribbean in time for the winter timetable?
bmi will fly to India before anywhere else, this will be when the Toronto flight finishes at the end of summer, subject to Government approval.
As for LA, San Fran and Miami, surely new shiney planes are required before this happens!
Happy flying!
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New bmibaby routes from LBA
Following Jet2 launch of LBA-CDG against bmi/regional the sleeping blue has stirred!
From the 1 of November the BD495/496 (mid day LBA-CDG) slot will transfer to bmibaby using a wet leased Fokker 100, a few weeks later they will start a Palma & Malaga service, with a much larger program set to kick of in 05.
I understand that Jersey & cork will follow in due course with a CPH service starting (again!) with regional
Well if you go around kicking a wasps nest (viper?) you must expect to get stung
It will be interesting to see what happenS Jet2 start flying to EDI
From the 1 of November the BD495/496 (mid day LBA-CDG) slot will transfer to bmibaby using a wet leased Fokker 100, a few weeks later they will start a Palma & Malaga service, with a much larger program set to kick of in 05.
I understand that Jersey & cork will follow in due course with a CPH service starting (again!) with regional
Well if you go around kicking a wasps nest (viper?) you must expect to get stung
It will be interesting to see what happenS Jet2 start flying to EDI
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flyingfrog - you're correct - came out a bit harsh and didn't mean to undermine or dis-respect anyone!
chiglet - yes, bmi do compete with AA on ORD, but don't they do it with United Airlins, and as such offer many connections beyond Chicago?
My feeling was that United have no presence in Miami really, but AA have it as one of their hubs - so bmi would really be fighting American just for the local leisure traffic - and would that sustain an operation? Maybe it would? I just think they would suffer!
chiglet - yes, bmi do compete with AA on ORD, but don't they do it with United Airlins, and as such offer many connections beyond Chicago?
My feeling was that United have no presence in Miami really, but AA have it as one of their hubs - so bmi would really be fighting American just for the local leisure traffic - and would that sustain an operation? Maybe it would? I just think they would suffer!
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I flew BMI YYZ-MAN-YYZ outbound from YYZ on Wednesday 9, June returning to Toronto on Saturday 12, June 2004. Full down the back but plenty of open seats in super comfort and business class.
One other observation; Service on BMI beats the pants off what Air Canada used to offer on it's YYZ-MAN flights. The new A340 equipment is, in my opinion, superior to the 767.
One other observation; Service on BMI beats the pants off what Air Canada used to offer on it's YYZ-MAN flights. The new A340 equipment is, in my opinion, superior to the 767.
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My God!!! That was dangerously close to being complimentary about something associated with Manchester!!!
How's my arch-nemesis then?
BTW - that was an A330. The A340 has FOUR engines.......
How's my arch-nemesis then?
BTW - that was an A330. The A340 has FOUR engines.......
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Can't see any new BMI transatlantic routes without new aircraft. Especially as West Coast destinations normally require about 2.5 aircraft per daily route. For BMI to operate Boston, Chicago, Washington, Miami, LA and San Fran, plus the Caribbeans and India, they're going to have to get hold of at least 10 more longhaul aircraft, even if most of these routes are somewhat less frequent than daily!
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BM in their various guises have been promising Copenhagen for about the last five years. Let's hope they do it this time as I'm sure the traffic is out there. Some German routes would be useful as well; whether or not they'd do them at the expense of Star Alliance from Manchester remains to be seen. And then there's the question of slots...
I'm all for LBA expanding healthily but there are physical and practical limitations to much more growth at the moment. As for additional operators and routes, the more the merrier as long as LBA can cope comfortably and can plan properly for sustained expansion.
Cheers.
BM in their various guises have been promising Copenhagen for about the last five years. Let's hope they do it this time as I'm sure the traffic is out there. Some German routes would be useful as well; whether or not they'd do them at the expense of Star Alliance from Manchester remains to be seen. And then there's the question of slots...
I'm all for LBA expanding healthily but there are physical and practical limitations to much more growth at the moment. As for additional operators and routes, the more the merrier as long as LBA can cope comfortably and can plan properly for sustained expansion.
Cheers.
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Your right, it was a A330, just a slip of the finger. As to offering praise for Manchester, credit were credit is due.
I would, however, offer a suggestion; Do you think that MAN could change the seats in T1 arrivals? They are disgustingly filthy. I waited from 0610 until 0700 for SIXT, the rent-a-car people, to open. Sat in the restaurant, or stood, rather than sit on those seats.
One other item; While waiting for our depature gate to be displayed, I did notice a security guard instructing a couple to extinguish their cigaret's. The message must have gotten through to MAN that "No Smoking" means exactly that.
I would, however, offer a suggestion; Do you think that MAN could change the seats in T1 arrivals? They are disgustingly filthy. I waited from 0610 until 0700 for SIXT, the rent-a-car people, to open. Sat in the restaurant, or stood, rather than sit on those seats.
One other item; While waiting for our depature gate to be displayed, I did notice a security guard instructing a couple to extinguish their cigaret's. The message must have gotten through to MAN that "No Smoking" means exactly that.
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I’d say Jet2 must be absolutely petrified at the mere thought of competing with the invincible bmibaby/bmi regional. NOT!
I’d be surprised if any of this ever materialises. Even if it did, there’s certainly no threat to Jet2. One token CDG rotation on a 100 seater, more than enough traffic on AGP for both, baby would be mad to launch PMI in Winter and I doubt Jet2 care about ORK or JER. CPH is the only potential worry to Jet2, but I’m sure they’d soon see a bmi RJ off the route.
I’d say Jet2 must be absolutely petrified at the mere thought of competing with the invincible bmibaby/bmi regional. NOT!
I’d be surprised if any of this ever materialises. Even if it did, there’s certainly no threat to Jet2. One token CDG rotation on a 100 seater, more than enough traffic on AGP for both, baby would be mad to launch PMI in Winter and I doubt Jet2 care about ORK or JER. CPH is the only potential worry to Jet2, but I’m sure they’d soon see a bmi RJ off the route.
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I think some of you at Leeds are just getting a little ahead of yourselves.
1. bmibaby are unlikely to start operating f100, stick to one type of aircraft makes everything alot cheaper.
2. As hotline says there are physical limitations at Leeds already, such as the fact that your full at night, so very unlikey to get based aircraft.
3. As ib16uk says baby have spread themselves very thin, although they don't fly from Stansted
4. Operating baby from Leeds will dilute the Teesside, East Midlands and Manchester operations to varying degrees.
5. They already have bmi regional who have carved out a niche market for themselves and probably make more money than baby could on the routes, especially if you pit baby against jet2.
6. I think you may have got mixed up with the idea that baby are supposedly going to do a Teessde - Paris and you thought Teesside meant Leeds.
1. bmibaby are unlikely to start operating f100, stick to one type of aircraft makes everything alot cheaper.
2. As hotline says there are physical limitations at Leeds already, such as the fact that your full at night, so very unlikey to get based aircraft.
3. As ib16uk says baby have spread themselves very thin, although they don't fly from Stansted
4. Operating baby from Leeds will dilute the Teesside, East Midlands and Manchester operations to varying degrees.
5. They already have bmi regional who have carved out a niche market for themselves and probably make more money than baby could on the routes, especially if you pit baby against jet2.
6. I think you may have got mixed up with the idea that baby are supposedly going to do a Teessde - Paris and you thought Teesside meant Leeds.