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Old 8th Jul 2004, 21:16
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Hope so.......
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Old 9th Jul 2004, 10:43
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Do I detect a hint of sarcasm in your post? You seemed more than happy when you got to fly it! And lets be fair, it's certainly a step up from the 2 and 300's. It's a nice piece of kit, and perfect for regional routes. All Flybe need to do now is get rid of the 146's, and replace them with some decent jets. I look forward to haing you return to my wonderful Dash - you'll have to start concentrating when you land again instead of letting the 146 handle it oh so easily!
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I thought that Flybe's ultimate aim was to float or at least be sold on. Surely having a bunch of brand new jets would look a lot more attractive to potential buyers. Awaiting Farnborough announment with anticipation.
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No sarcasm at all. Q400's are the way forward, i've no doubt about it.

I've heard easyJet are kicking themselves about ordering airbus - they can't believe the answer was there in front of them. All along. (probably there all along coz it couldnt move as it was tech)

I am personally looking forward to Spain on the Q400.

Is it still "Q" after 3 hours?

As for me. Dash again? No. Be long gone by then
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Old 9th Jul 2004, 14:30
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Q400`s , why don`t they just start on stand that way when they realise they`ve gone tech again they wouldn`t be blocking the taxiway. Once they get airborne the performance is amazing but surely the reliability figures must be among the worst for a modern a/c.
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I've noticed one of the Q400's seem to be more "problematic" than others.This one being G-JEDP,I feel however from when the first Q400's arrived the tech problems ocurred quite a bit but have noticed a decrease in problems.Possibly through FlyBe getting a better understanding of them,I dunno just speculating.


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Old 9th Jul 2004, 15:21
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Its sad to see a business that just responds to the market and adapts to conditions rather than dominates or changes them. Poor old Jersey are going to end up with a fleet of long thin turboprops serving UK only airports. There may be money therein. There may even be a long term business in that.

But its not much to get excited about is it? They survive only because nobody with a clean draft of paper choses to compete. They survive only because no airline of any size wants their business. They survive inspite of truly tragic management, punctuality, cramped aircraft and naff premium product.

Recent attempts to take people 900nm to the Med in 146's and turboprops prove interesting - if not sustainable in the long term.

They thrash around not knowing what they want to be and as a result keep changing their fleet, their routes and their branding. Meanwhile they keep their crews in taxis and their accounts a closely guarded secret - although their market leading low pay for pilots is somewhat more well known. £49,800 for a 100+ seat Jet Skipper anyone?

Nice people and excellent operators. Just a rubbish company.

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Old 9th Jul 2004, 15:49
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The Q400 is a lot quieter than your noisy 146!
And we won't be doing Spain on it, that's what we'll need the new jets for.
With any luck you will be long gone - and I'll have joined you! x
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Old 9th Jul 2004, 16:33
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Maybe upfront, but defin not in the back. The constant vibrating was starting to wear thin. Noise was defin more than 146
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Old 9th Jul 2004, 22:28
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The dear ole Shed was a Cadilac in comparison to the Q400 Pax wise. I 've never been bounced around or shaken so much in my life, let alone been pole axed on the landings.

Rumour has it only ex Naval pilots are allowed to fly the "Q400"
wonder why??

An Engineer at BHX assures me that they are gradually shaking themselves to bits. One in the Hangar at EXT bears wittness to this.

Also, I've never seen a control column bounced around so much on the approach once the auto pilot has been disconected either, even in virtually calm conditions. ( Full Flap Turbulance around the Tailplane apparently).

There is something very seriously wrong with this aircraft.
The old adage "If it looks right, then it is right" certainly holds true with this aircraft( term used very loosely as it rarely flies)
This one most certainly does not look right!!

Looking forward to the announcement at Farnborough with interest. Whether it be the mass resignations of the "Management" or a firm order for 50+ more Q400's with an option for a further 20...................




Through trauma to a saner world.
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Old 11th Jul 2004, 17:52
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There have been teething problems with the Q400 as with all brand new aircraft, but as flybe av. svcs. learn about these problems they are doing a great job of sorting them out.

The Q400 is actually no louder in the cabin than most regional jet airliners inc. the 146/CRJ because of it's noise and vibration supression system.

I disagree with you ben. Just because flybe are low-fares they do not have to fit the 'easyjet-ryanair-bmibaby' business model. Flybe have found a niche market with the routes they do and we have a lot of happy regular customers. There is a demand out there for the routes they do and the other low-fare airlines do not have the right equipment for the job.

My guess is that they will be getting the 319 but basing most of them in bases other than SOU. Not for a couple of years yet but in the interim replace the old 142's with RJ100's - better perfomance, 112 seats across the whole jet fleet.
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