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Old 12th May 2004, 11:10
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Fly Jet Green closed

Just heard on the noon news on RTE 2FM over the internet that Jet Green, the new Irish airline which started operations about a week ago has today ceased operations.

Airline says they don't know how many passengers with return tickets have been left stranded!

The flyjetgreen.com web site is not fully operational, but nothing about it closing down. Can't find anything on the internet either, must be breaking news.

Any news?

Not much info but just got this off the rte.ie site:

FlyjetGreen.com ceases trading

12 May 2004 12:16
The new Irish airline, FlyjetGreen.com, has ceased trading.

The airline issued a statement to the effect this afternoon.

It operated flights from Dublin to Malaga and Alicante in Spain, as well flights to Nice, Rome and Faro.



The airline said it did not know how many of its passengers with return tickets may have been left stranded in Spain.

The Commission for Aviation Regulation has also been notified.

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sad to see another Irish attempt go under, yet I think alot of people were a little concerned about flyjetgreen, especially due to its links with failed startup Fresh Aer last year.
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Old 12th May 2004, 12:19
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It is indeed sad: but 8 days must be some kind of record.

My condolences to all who lost their jobs, and may I wish them the very best of luck in securing new employment.

I was initially sceptical of the operation, but when they began operating, I must say I changed my mind. The interesting thing is that when I was waiting to board another flight at DUB last thursday, the jetgreen aircraft arrived from Malaga, and there was quite a few passengers who dismebarked. The number surprised me for an airline who had only started 3 days previously.

There was talk a couple of days ago that they had not even applied for DUB slots for the new flights to FCO, NCE etc and JetGreen were given until close of business that day to either apply for said slots (considering that tickets were being sold) or they would be reported to the Aviation regulator. Their timings for AGP and Alicante were also changed at the last minute: it was supposed to be 6;25 departure to AGP each day, but on saturdays this was brought back to 4:40 am I believe? Not many who would relish that departure time when EI fly out at the slightly more civilized hour of 7am.

But again, i'm sure those who have been made redundant by this sad clousuer won't have such a problem getting a job: we've got plenty of new route launches to look forward to at DUB.
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Have they closed for economic reasons or regulatory problems? One week seems a very short time if it was purely financial. They were still in the process of trying to change from a tour operator to a real airline.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0512/airline.html
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To echoe SNNEI I also said my sincerest wishes to all the employees that they find new employment shortly.

Just got this info from www.iol.ie :

JetGreen Airways ceases trading after just one week
12/05/2004 - 13:21:34

An Irish low-fares airline that only began services last week has ceased trading from noon today.

In a statement issued to the media, JetGreen Airways gave no reason for the decision, but said an extraordinary general meeting of shareholders would be held to consider winding up the company.

JetGreen said it would be unable to repatriate passengers from abroad and advised them to make their own way to Ireland and submit a compensation claim to the Commission for Aviation Regulation.

It also said passengers who had booked flights by credit card should contact their card insurer, while those who had booked and paid through a travel agent should contact that agent for advice.

JetGreen said it regretted the decision to cease operations and apologised to everyone inconvenienced by the matter.
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Exactly how many employees did JG have?? I say this because they leased in all their air operations and those people are still employed by Icelandair. JG itself is a realitively small company holding only a tour operators licence and a handfull of staff. 6 at most?? I pity the punters stranded in AGP and ALC. Anyway it will be interesting to get the full facts eventually.
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Old 12th May 2004, 13:27
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Snifferdog,

I echo your sentiments there; it will be interesting when the full facts of this emerge. That a reason has not even been given does seem strange. It makes one wonder if the aviation regulator/IAA were involved at some stage.
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Old 12th May 2004, 13:37
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As a tour operator, (they gave a tour operator's licence number on the site), did they not pay a bond, can pax not claim from this to get repatriated.
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Old 12th May 2004, 14:24
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JG leased the aircraft in from icelandic with flight deck crews only. JG hired cabin crew, res staff , etc.. we lost a few of our staff to them.. just hope they can get back on the aviation merry go round soon
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This must be terrible for all concerned, the cabin crew especially as some left good jobs to join the cause.
Icelandair can hopefully redeploy the aircraft, but not nice for them, or the pax stranded in AGP and elsewhere. Guess everybody was waiting to see what happened, but 8 days ???
A few people should be asking for some answers, and not just from Jetgreen.
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Old 12th May 2004, 15:40
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Folks, I often visit other 'consumer' websites in which our industry comes in for tremendous ammounts of stick. Quite often its the kind you naturally tend toignore, but after a while you get the feeling that many airline passengers are anti-crew or anti airline personnel because they feel as if they are ignored or treated like cattle.

Its a worthwhile exercise to, just once, place yourself in the position of the customer...the people who pay our wages...and think about them too.

Nobody on this thread has expressed the slightest sorrow for the people who will be left stranded or will be out of pocket because of this.

I do indeed sympathise with the workforce. I'm an employee too, and there but for the Grace of God!

But for goodness sake, look at the damage these (management) idiots do to our business, and spare a thought for the travellers too!
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I pity the punters stranded in AGP and ALC.


Please see above!!!!
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Old 12th May 2004, 19:56
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Of course, some serious questions should be asked as to how such an operation was allowed to get up and running in the first place. A study into the characters behind the operation might give ample explanation. Previous failed ventures et al.

The loosers are the customers and those that gave up proper jobs to migrate to this lot.

Sorry to say it, but the old saying '...there's one born every minute' might just be appropriate in this instance.
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Old 12th May 2004, 21:55
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Was wondering about that, saw a TF 757 idling on an outer stand today in DUB...surprised to hear they have gone belly up.
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Old 12th May 2004, 23:08
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Idunno,

Of course you are correct in what you say. It's just that as most here are airline staff, I guess it's more fitting to to acknowledge those who have lost their jobs in this instance. But of course, yes, the passengers have also got a raw deal and my sympathies to them too.
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Old 13th May 2004, 08:03
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Just checked the www.flyjetgreen.com site. In their news section no mention of ceaseing operations, just how happy they are (were) to announce launch of new routes in June. At least their booking page is unavailable, as is their "contact" page... are they trying to avoid having unfortunate "angry" passengers phoning them? Just show what a crooked fiasco this airline/tour operator was.
I remember when Cork based Jet Magic ceased operations, withinh about an hour thay had updated their web page with an official statement, expressing their sincerest apologies for all inconveniences caused and providing a phone number for refunds/help to passengers already booked.
I certainly don't know any of the people behind Jetgreen, but I sincerely hope they react appropriately and are brought to justice for their continual fiascos (Fresh Aer, Jet Green)...
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Old 14th May 2004, 07:53
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how can any one/company justify setting up in business just to shut down after 1 week or so.
Seems to me this might have been a vehicle for some 'other' purpose, and a lot of sincere individuals got stung in the process, assuming it was a genuine attempt to establish a business..... just surmising .......... !
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Apparently a near riot in Murcia yesterday afternoon with Jet Green pax trying to get back to Dublin on the Ryanair, and being charged 200+ euros for the last minute ticket, plus excess baggage charges as they came with 20kg on Jet Green but RYR only allow 15kg. Yes,I know JG went from ALC, but there aren't many other flights to DUB!!
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Old 15th May 2004, 15:11
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One can only imagine the distress that has been caused by this cowboy outfit shutting down without warning. One week in business! What a joke! Surely they must have known what their passenger loads and yield were like prior to launching. I mean if the numbers didn't add up why start flying at all? Anyway despite the upset to the passengers stuck (temporarily) in Spain and Ireland the Directors and senior managers of JG will slip quietly away and not be held accountable for their actions. That's the real crime here!
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Old 15th May 2004, 15:46
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“There is always some person who is prepared to make something a little worse and sell it a little cheaper, and people who consider price only are that man’s lawful prey”

Ruskin

And in airline terms, prey often means prey, usually to vultures on a mountainside... Luckily in this case they went belly-up before their inevitable accident.

When will the public learn that cheap means the American interpretation of that word, i.e. it is poor quality, base and shoddy?

I have little sympathy for people who buy what are known to be poor quality goods and then bitch and complain when they discover the goods are inferior.

If a loaf of bread cannot be bought in Ireland for 20% of the market price unless it is full of grit, why should the consumer think that an airline ticket can be bought at such discount without it containing such unwelcome surprises?
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I agree with you Moosp but JG weren,t selling cheap tickets. Their price was mostly on par with their competitors apart from a few promotional fares. I really believe that JG had no investment other than enough money to cover basic costs but no larger amount to offset unexpected difficulties. I think the whole thing was being run on a day to day cashflow basis and that has to be the most criminally insane business model to start an air service on. The sad thing is they won't be the last company to try this approach!!
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