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Old 18th Jun 2004, 06:24
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Wizzair's planned expansion at LTN is good news indeed for the airport & hopefully it will continue. However, looking at the CAA stats for May, pax numbers actually were down on May 2003 by 3.1% to 598,000. A drop of some 19,000. This is despite the fact that easy started triple daily to Berlin & daily to Budapest. Am I right in thinking this is probably due to Britannia only basing two aircraft at LTN this summer, with other flights now being sub-chartered out to other airlines which were usually covered by the third aircraft. I know Flybe have greatly reduced their summer Jersey ops to a weekly sat 146 as opposed to daily Dash flights plus 2/3 x 146s on a saturday last year.
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Powerjet1, you should be able to check the CAA stats route data (table 12 on the CAA Airport Statistics page) to see if it's scheduled or charter which has dropped. Until easyJet's new routes were started their traffic had stagnated or even fallen on a few routes, partly as they expanded at Gatwick.
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Thanks for that although I don't think that information for May is available yet. Take onboard what you say about easy's expansion at LGW but having said that, pax nos have increased every month at LTN over the last 12 months,albeit small, averaging 3/4% a month. So because this first drop was in May(start of summer charter flights) that is why I immediately thought of Britannia.
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Old 18th Jun 2004, 15:42
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So LTNman why did Wizz not go to Gatwick, an airport that also has morning arrival slots available and it is the UK's second busiest airport and part of the BAA
Wizz needs 6 early morning slots but according to https://www.online-coordination.com/...abid=AvailWeek Gatwick doesn't have them although they could have squeezed into STN so I guess it is one to TBI
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The Wizz aircraft always seem to be full on arrival but empty on departures!
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The Wizz aircraft always seem to be full on arrival but empty on departures!
shhh don't tell the Daily Mail as the government want to keep the lid on this
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Old 13th Jul 2004, 12:46
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I think easyjet are going for the jugular against Wizzair since they are increasing their daily Luton- Budapest to twice daily(Wizzair going twice daily from this friday), starting twice daily Luton-Warsaw(Wizzair starting twice daily from 10 Aug) & daily Luton-Krakow, obviously competing with Wizzair's twice daily Katowice already in operation. Looks like a bloodbath in the making. Likely result, easy 1, Wizz lost. Easy routes starting end of Oct except BUD which started 1 May.
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Poor Wizz Air they build up their brand, get the passengers on their planes, announce new routes and wallop! easyJet come along. This will be interesting, can Wizz Air tough it out, or will they decide that it's not worth the hassle and decamp to another UK airport?
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Old 13th Jul 2004, 16:39
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This is bad news for LTN. The airport desperately needs new carriers so if the unthinkable happened and easy ever went tits up there would still be passengers using LTN. Just look at the departure and arrivals boards at Luton and take away all the EZY flights. The terminal would be empty for parts of the day, this would lead to the shops closing down which would make LTN unattractive to the few remaining passengers so cutting numbers even further.
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Old 13th Jul 2004, 16:43
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Relax LTNman, even if EZY would go bankrupt, today´s passenger volumes would mean that somebody else would step into the LTN market.

Otherwise someone can always re-paint those EZY 737-700´s, fit winglets and a nice interior and use LTN as the world´s largest BBJ base!
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Old 13th Jul 2004, 18:17
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I agree with Studi here! Look at Wizzair´s website and you will quickly understand that the UK/LTN is not their only market/destination.

I think it´s good to see EZY take a stand against the competition, but I´m affraid that it´s too late. Wizzair has grown too big to be easily pushed out of the market and trying to undercut Wizz´s costs will be a mission impossible for EZY.

Curious to see how this will end.
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Old 14th Jul 2004, 11:12
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Just to complete the picture, easyJet are also opening the following routes from 31st October:

Krakow - Dortmund 1 x daily

Budapest - Newcastle 1 x daily

Budapest - Bristol 1 x daily

Budapest - Geneva 1 x daily
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Old 14th Jul 2004, 13:16
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Does anybody know what these guys salaries are or even more terms and conditions?
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Old 14th Jul 2004, 13:48
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Bread and water?

I heard a rumour of captains making equivalent of $1500,- per month.
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Old 15th Jul 2004, 21:25
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Nope, quite more than this! This is the salary paid by SkyEurope to their captains......

For Wizz captains the salary is depending on sectors flown.
Don't exactly know the numbers, but should be around E5500,-
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Old 16th Jul 2004, 15:54
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Aha, yes could also have been SkyEurope.

Hmmm...maybe I should send them my CV!
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Apparently recruiting Captains through Rishworth, but when I sent the application from the WizzAir web site I got an autoreply saying that the recruitment is finished and will start again in fall...
????
How's that???
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EasyJet intends to be the UK’s first no-frills airline to expand into Poland. The airline will start routes from Luton to Warsaw and Krakow on October 31.

EasyJet is targeting the two Polish cities as they are relatively untapped short-break destinations from the UK. It is also keen to establish a presence in Poland, which has the largest population of the new EU entrants – about 40 million. The airline believes this will be a good investment as Poland’s affluence grows. An EasyJet spokeswoman said: “Eastern Europe is going to be the future for growth among low-cost airlines over the next few years.

The move will put EasyJet in direct competition with two Polish start-ups – Wizz Air and Air Polonia.

Wizz, which began operating to Luton in May, is due to start a twice-daily service to Warsaw on August 10. Air Polonia flies from the Polish capital and Krakow to Stansted.

EasyJet will fly twice daily to Warsaw and daily to Krakow.
EasyJet claimed it would not start a price war, but the spokeswoman said: “The market will determine how many low-cost airlines it can support.”

The extra capacity was welcomed by city-break operators.
Cresta Cities product manager Michelle Evans said: “One thing that has hindered Krakow and Warsaw in the past has been the lack of flights from the UK. So this is good news.

EasyJet also begins flights from Bristol and Newcastle to Budapest and increases frequency from Luton to the Hungarian capital to twice daily on October 31.

Budapest was the no-frills carriers’ first target following the expansion of the EU. Airlines in member countries can fly unrestricted to other EU states.

EasyJet will operate 17 routes to eastern Europe by next summer, carrying an estimated two million people. A £1 million advertising campaign starts in the autumn.

EasyJet chief executive Ray Webster said: “It was only two months ago that we started services to Budapest and Ljubljana. There is more to come.”

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Old 19th Jul 2004, 10:20
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Wizz have just released their winter timetable. In response to easy's announcement that they are increasing their Luton- Budapest flights from 1 to 2 daily wef 31 Oct, Wizz appear to have responded by increasing their LTN-BUD flights to 3 daily wef 15 Sept. I think we are getting into overkill here.

Twice daily Katowice remains for the winter bar wed evening departures, so 13 departures weekly. Warsaw & Gdansk remain the same as for the summer, twice daily & daily respectively.
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Old 19th Jul 2004, 13:46
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Grrr

Blimey, that equates to over 1 million seats available through Luton per year by Wizz!
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