Large plane/short sectors
Larnaca to Paphos is 82 miles Great Circle.
Dubai to Abu Dhabi is 80 miles. Lufthansa 747-400s and other widebodies make this trip. Incidenally the schedule time for this sector is 40 minutes, giving an average speed of 120 mph, which might be below the 744s stalling speed ?!
Dubai to Abu Dhabi is 80 miles. Lufthansa 747-400s and other widebodies make this trip. Incidenally the schedule time for this sector is 40 minutes, giving an average speed of 120 mph, which might be below the 744s stalling speed ?!
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what about Dublin to shannon on a flapper
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Dublin - Shannon is actually around 120 miles, but against that, it is something that EI has had to put up with for many years and has to do every day, unlike CY, which only operates from Larnaca to Paphos on the odd flight, as it deems necessary.
Interestingly, Aer Lingus's Chicago flight has one of the longest and shortest A330-300 sectors on one flight; DUB-ORD on a winter's day, with holding etc. can take around 9 hours.
Interestingly, Aer Lingus's Chicago flight has one of the longest and shortest A330-300 sectors on one flight; DUB-ORD on a winter's day, with holding etc. can take around 9 hours.
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I 've done KIN-MBJ with BA and back a few times in a B742, 73nm it says in the internet. Half full and very little fuel, great stuff! BA don't do this now though.
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KIN-MBJ is 84 (statute) miles and Air Jamaica occasionally do it on an A340, so another close contender, but still looking for that elusive sub-80 miler.
Dewdrop, regarding elevation attained on short flights, your sector was 82 miles direct, probably nearer 100 allowing for manoeuvring. So attaining a height of 2 miles on the way is actually not much of a gradient. Don't know how the airspace is divided up in Cyprus.
Dewdrop, regarding elevation attained on short flights, your sector was 82 miles direct, probably nearer 100 allowing for manoeuvring. So attaining a height of 2 miles on the way is actually not much of a gradient. Don't know how the airspace is divided up in Cyprus.
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Not such a large plane, but long ago (as SLF) I did Omaha - Lincoln [Nebraska] on a United 737-200. The distance is approximately 55 miles. That is in Tall TV Tower country and one almost got the impression we were looking UP at those 2000-footers.
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bigscotdaddy is right... bmi used to operate GLA-EDI-CPH, a distance of 43 miles between GLA & EDI. However, it was only on Fokker 100's, and I thought this topic was for big aircraft / small sectors??
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My in-laws once flew EMA to Heraklion (Crete) via Manchester to pick up some more pax. EMA to MAN must be all of 30 miles max as the 737 flies.... wonder if they stayed below cloud in VMC and did it the old fashioned way.....
A mate of mine flew on an MD-11 from Denver to somewhere close...can't remember the airport - but he said it was 43 miles....
Don't 747s operate between very nearby cities in Japan? Must take longer to board and deplane the pax than to complete the gate to gate sector.....
A mate of mine flew on an MD-11 from Denver to somewhere close...can't remember the airport - but he said it was 43 miles....
Don't 747s operate between very nearby cities in Japan? Must take longer to board and deplane the pax than to complete the gate to gate sector.....
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For years we used to make intermediate stops on the smaller Dutch antilles island on our way to the main airport at Curacao. The shortest sector was Bonaire to Curacao at 41 nm. We did this using our Boeing 747 classic equipment. Shortest airtime for me was 9 minutes from brakes release to landing. Mostly visual flying was a lot of fun. Although it could come at times that you were pretty tired, just having done the first stretch of 9.5 hours from Amsterdam. Now Aruba and Bonaire have airports large enough to accomodate direct flights and those tail-ends are becoming much rarer.
In the Gulf our 767's make a lot of those kind of short tail-end sectors. Dubai-Abu Dhabi, Damman-Doha, Bahrain-Abu Dhabi, all combinations are possible. In Africa our shortest is Malabo-Douala at 62 nm at the moment.
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In the Gulf our 767's make a lot of those kind of short tail-end sectors. Dubai-Abu Dhabi, Damman-Doha, Bahrain-Abu Dhabi, all combinations are possible. In Africa our shortest is Malabo-Douala at 62 nm at the moment.
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We (BA) about 12 years ago used to fly CPH-MMX - about 25nm (track) - not above 2500ft. I remember the MMX-CPH clearance as ' Clear take off, climb 2500ft. After t/o turn right turn 270 deg cleared for ILD 30. Some people managed to get up to 350kts
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Does MANCHESTER to BLACKPOOL count? One of my first flights was Gatwick - Manchester - Blackpool on a BIA Hearld (OK not big at all) I believe it might've even had a name of The Silver Arrow or something like that
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A mate of mine flew on an MD-11 from Denver to somewhere close...can't remember the airport - but he said it was 43 miles....
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Nothing else within 43 miles of Denver can handle a mainline jet. The route you mention was likely DEN to COS [Colorado Springs], about 73 miles from the present Denver airport, a few less from Stapleton.
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A mate of mine flew on an MD-11 from Denver to somewhere close...can't remember the airport - but he said it was 43 miles....
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Nothing else within 43 miles of Denver can handle a mainline jet. The route you mention was likely DEN to COS [Colorado Springs], about 73 miles from the present Denver airport, a few less from Stapleton.
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Ok its about 150nm so its not as short as some sectors already mentioned here but ... LGW - MAN ...
Lots of charter (sorry leisure) airlines operate MAN - LGW - xxx or vice versa. I know last summer Air Atlanta were doing a LGW-MAN-POP using a 747-200, and BY regularly do MAN-LGW-MLE using a 767-300.
Also BA used to operate to Islamabad from LHR via MAN (using a 747-400 I presume).
Don't VS regularly position 747-400s and A340s between LGW and LHR ... but then again that probably works out at over 100nm by the time you've taken off from LGW and entered one of the holds for LHR for 45 minutes!! And again, these have no passengers on so does it count?
Lots of charter (sorry leisure) airlines operate MAN - LGW - xxx or vice versa. I know last summer Air Atlanta were doing a LGW-MAN-POP using a 747-200, and BY regularly do MAN-LGW-MLE using a 767-300.
Also BA used to operate to Islamabad from LHR via MAN (using a 747-400 I presume).
Don't VS regularly position 747-400s and A340s between LGW and LHR ... but then again that probably works out at over 100nm by the time you've taken off from LGW and entered one of the holds for LHR for 45 minutes!! And again, these have no passengers on so does it count?