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I see Cork is to have a service by Ryan International from New York. It claims to be a first is this so ?
"Nonstop service to Cork - a first - will commence June 23 and be flown through Sep. 8, departing every Wednesday; returns will operate on Thursdays. Fares will range between $214.50 and $299.50 one way, based on roundtrip purchase. Fares vary according to date of departure "
"Nonstop service to Cork - a first - will commence June 23 and be flown through Sep. 8, departing every Wednesday; returns will operate on Thursdays. Fares will range between $214.50 and $299.50 one way, based on roundtrip purchase. Fares vary according to date of departure "
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Yes, this is the first US charter route to Cork. Because of the pathetic current bilateral with the US. Cork is not allowed have a
scheduled service to the US. This will change when the forthcoming Open skies agreement comes into effect in a couple of years between the EU & US and the Irish government can no longer discriminate against Cork in favour of Shannon and Dublin!!
scheduled service to the US. This will change when the forthcoming Open skies agreement comes into effect in a couple of years between the EU & US and the Irish government can no longer discriminate against Cork in favour of Shannon and Dublin!!
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If ORK is to be even occasionally routing to JFK, thank god security were awake when that @rse with the gun was passing through... hope the book is thrown.
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I think a NYC to BFS and onwards to ORK or reverse,would be just what the doctor ordered.With BFS having final talks again with CO for a year round service,an Ork stop off would certantly seal it,especially if they operate their 767 200.BTW,CO were very close to announcing a BFS to EWR service in competition to Aer Lingus five flights a week from Bfs pre sept11, so the demand is there.CO must have done their sums before.However I would like to see Aer Lingus back at BFS,they had great loads from BFS and went from three to five flights per week.Maybe a BFS to LHR sevice could be resumed by EI.
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No this is not the first US-ORK charter flight. You may recall Rich International did a few Orlando-Cork-Shannon-Orlando and few years back with L1011. Also Buffalo Air did a few Boston-Cork-Shannon-Boston back in the early 80's with B707. However this will be the first NONSTOP on both legs and regularly scheduled.
I also believe that a daily JFK-ORK-BFS-ORK-JFK service would be an ideal scenario and feeling is eventually this is what might happen with EI. Also understand rumour that CO may be sniffing around Cork too.
I also believe that a daily JFK-ORK-BFS-ORK-JFK service would be an ideal scenario and feeling is eventually this is what might happen with EI. Also understand rumour that CO may be sniffing around Cork too.
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The Rich TriStars routed Orlando - Gander - Cork - Dublin - Gander - Orlando. TriStars 1s were not great performers.
The Buffalo ex TAP Boeing 707s arrived from Providence, Rhode Island if memory serves.
Transocean also operated a DC-8-61 flight from New York, think it was JFK but not 100 per cent sure and arrived in Cork after a fuel stop in Gander. Routed up to Shannon and back to America again via Gander. DC-8-61s did not have the range to fly directly like the series 63 did. Might have been around 1989?
American Trans Air also operated one charter to the U.S. around the mid 1990s with a 757 that operated in and out through Shannon.
Yes, CO doing an EWR-ORK/BFS-EWR would be something with a 762. Imagine a wx diversion at Cork to Belfast though!
The Buffalo ex TAP Boeing 707s arrived from Providence, Rhode Island if memory serves.
Transocean also operated a DC-8-61 flight from New York, think it was JFK but not 100 per cent sure and arrived in Cork after a fuel stop in Gander. Routed up to Shannon and back to America again via Gander. DC-8-61s did not have the range to fly directly like the series 63 did. Might have been around 1989?
American Trans Air also operated one charter to the U.S. around the mid 1990s with a 757 that operated in and out through Shannon.
Yes, CO doing an EWR-ORK/BFS-EWR would be something with a 762. Imagine a wx diversion at Cork to Belfast though!
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Ah, the Gulf AIr thing is a charter. Well thats different.
However, I still think its lunacy using a large aircraft to make stop offs at small airports on scheduled flights. I'm sure Cork could support scheduled transatlantic flights but a Shannon-style stop-over is no solution.
However, I still think its lunacy using a large aircraft to make stop offs at small airports on scheduled flights. I'm sure Cork could support scheduled transatlantic flights but a Shannon-style stop-over is no solution.
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RE are making pots and pots of money. Loads up massively on this time last year.
EI are making pots and pots of money too and would be making more if they had not dropped the evening LHR and AMS and the Tuesday and Saturday CDG.
RE should consider the economics of trying a ORK-GWY service. Only other viable public transport option to Galway from Cork is the 4 hours, 20 minutes bus and the train option is via Portarlington which must be considered a no, no.
There was some talk that RE might being doing their own handling shortly but nothing has yet materialised.
Air Luxor are sending in an A330 on a Faro rotation next Sunday, 18th April so will all the doubters who query whether the A330 can manouevre safely around the runways, taxiways and ramp at Cork please attend to assuage their misgivings! Thank you.
EI are making pots and pots of money too and would be making more if they had not dropped the evening LHR and AMS and the Tuesday and Saturday CDG.
RE should consider the economics of trying a ORK-GWY service. Only other viable public transport option to Galway from Cork is the 4 hours, 20 minutes bus and the train option is via Portarlington which must be considered a no, no.
There was some talk that RE might being doing their own handling shortly but nothing has yet materialised.
Air Luxor are sending in an A330 on a Faro rotation next Sunday, 18th April so will all the doubters who query whether the A330 can manouevre safely around the runways, taxiways and ramp at Cork please attend to assuage their misgivings! Thank you.
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EI & RE had a row over commissions and they no longer have an interline agreement. For example, if you try to book a scheduled flight from Cork to the US with a travel agent or even with Aer Lingus, they will route you via Heathrow or Amsterdam despite there being 9 flights a day between Cork and Dublin with RE.
EI lose the transatlantic business and RE lose out on the connecting flights. You would think they would get there act together.
EI lose the transatlantic business and RE lose out on the connecting flights. You would think they would get there act together.
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Thanks for that, had not copped it! Knew there was some issues with baggage last year between RE and EI.
Some not so good news today. To facilitate the ongoing building work of the new terminal and the multi-storey car park the ILS will be out of action at Cork from June to August and the CAT II system of the ILS is likely to be down from about 6 months to a year! If the weather is poor this summer and autumn we could have some serious disruption with the flights of thousands of passengers being diverted to Shann*n, Farranfore (Kerry) and Dublin. I am just wondering if RE and all the low cost operators like FR, EI, WW and the IT carriers like Futura and First Choice realise this and the high cost consequences to them of diverting aircraft, crews and pax?
Things might get very messy if the sea fog and low cloud rolls in to Cork off the Atlantic this summer.
Some not so good news today. To facilitate the ongoing building work of the new terminal and the multi-storey car park the ILS will be out of action at Cork from June to August and the CAT II system of the ILS is likely to be down from about 6 months to a year! If the weather is poor this summer and autumn we could have some serious disruption with the flights of thousands of passengers being diverted to Shann*n, Farranfore (Kerry) and Dublin. I am just wondering if RE and all the low cost operators like FR, EI, WW and the IT carriers like Futura and First Choice realise this and the high cost consequences to them of diverting aircraft, crews and pax?
Things might get very messy if the sea fog and low cloud rolls in to Cork off the Atlantic this summer.
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Tom, just because we have
similar issues, don't we get to be mentioned too?
Thanks for info, I mean, really.
similar issues, don't we get to be mentioned too?
Thanks for info, I mean, really.
