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I merely go by what people at NOW tell me, I then make my judgment - in either a positive or negative way. Like jmc-man I am very doubtful as to whether this venture will fly or not. To lodge my personal opinion as it stands today, I'd say it won't. But that opinion may change by the end of the week when more facts are forthcoming.
It's up to me if I want to be consistent or not. I don't need jmc-man to tell me what I should be.
Why not all wait until the FACTS appear from within the NOW building. That may or may not be this week, it may or may not be this month.
It's up to me if I want to be consistent or not. I don't need jmc-man to tell me what I should be.
Why not all wait until the FACTS appear from within the NOW building. That may or may not be this week, it may or may not be this month.
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Bacardi,
If we were to wait for a "fact" from the NOW building, we'd wait a long time.
Lots of promises and announcements, but nothing else.
I think the consensus seems to be to wait and see. But I also get the feeling we've been here before.....quite a number of times in fact.
In the meantime, I will continue to offer my opinion and observations.....as I've said often before, feel free to ignore them.
If we were to wait for a "fact" from the NOW building, we'd wait a long time.
Lots of promises and announcements, but nothing else.
I think the consensus seems to be to wait and see. But I also get the feeling we've been here before.....quite a number of times in fact.
In the meantime, I will continue to offer my opinion and observations.....as I've said often before, feel free to ignore them.
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jmc-man yep, agreed, lots of "this will happen this may happen" scenarios but from what I heard yesterday, the next announcement will be to say.......well, lets wait and see shall we?
Needless to say, we will all see the result in due course in the form of the new website being released and seats going on sale (at what ever pricing they chose), an aircraft painted up in their chosen livery (which is not the one seen in an enthusiast magazine recently), or we won't.......
Needless to say, we will all see the result in due course in the form of the new website being released and seats going on sale (at what ever pricing they chose), an aircraft painted up in their chosen livery (which is not the one seen in an enthusiast magazine recently), or we won't.......
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BW just regarding your quote:
Just to let you know that at the moment I can supply you or NOW with 164 737's for sale or lease including 38 737-300's, 18-737-400's about 4 -700's and lot of -200's So not having been able to secure aircraft in today's market would be more than stupid!
The 737-300's flown by Buzz for RYR will very soon be on the market, so are others. It could be that NOW have secured their aircraft
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why all the speculation? If something is due to be announced then it will be when the concerned parties decide to do so.
It is anyones' guess what and when it will be....
JMC-MAN it was I that first offered you a hat, it is still on offer and your new dining exprience draws ever closer!
It is anyones' guess what and when it will be....
JMC-MAN it was I that first offered you a hat, it is still on offer and your new dining exprience draws ever closer!
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I notice you deleted your last post teachin.
So you go from not knowing anything about now in your first post to knowing all about the people in the office in the last.
Only registered in jan i see as well. Do you think we're that short sighted.
With you antics here I hope your not the part of the company writing the business plan.
So you go from not knowing anything about now in your first post to knowing all about the people in the office in the last.
Only registered in jan i see as well. Do you think we're that short sighted.
With you antics here I hope your not the part of the company writing the business plan.
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Eager,
Speculation? Well speculation (and expectation) happens when a number of people come onto this board and on a Thread about NOW, state that an announcement will be made "in the next few days".
So when "the next few days" pass with no announcement, people start asking what happened to the " announcement".
Your offer of a hat is kind. Can I remind you that I volunteered a case of Champagne when ( or should I say, if) they operate their first flight. My offer still stands.
So far, my concern about the viability of this whole project has been borne out by the failure to get it financed and airborne.
I'm afraid in the absence of anything else, speculation is all we have.
Speculation? Well speculation (and expectation) happens when a number of people come onto this board and on a Thread about NOW, state that an announcement will be made "in the next few days".
So when "the next few days" pass with no announcement, people start asking what happened to the " announcement".
Your offer of a hat is kind. Can I remind you that I volunteered a case of Champagne when ( or should I say, if) they operate their first flight. My offer still stands.
So far, my concern about the viability of this whole project has been borne out by the failure to get it financed and airborne.
I'm afraid in the absence of anything else, speculation is all we have.
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JMC-MAN
I think your posts are educated and precise with respect to your point of view, and so far you have been close in your predictions. I think you know your stuff but i disagree with you, i think NOW will fly, I think the management are excellent and hard working. What they are trying to achieve is extremely difficult (look at GO with their £25 million start-up budget, BA backing them up etc etc.)
WRT to the hat/champagne we could exchange on the day of NOWs' inaugral flight? I am fond of Cristal or Bollinger.
FLYMATE? any word from you?
I think your posts are educated and precise with respect to your point of view, and so far you have been close in your predictions. I think you know your stuff but i disagree with you, i think NOW will fly, I think the management are excellent and hard working. What they are trying to achieve is extremely difficult (look at GO with their £25 million start-up budget, BA backing them up etc etc.)
WRT to the hat/champagne we could exchange on the day of NOWs' inaugral flight? I am fond of Cristal or Bollinger.
FLYMATE? any word from you?
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Another 7 page thread and still no airline. I can't believe people are still being taken in by this shower. If they had had the money, then we would have seen something long time ago, but as they obviously don't, then it is unfortunately a dead duck.
I hope all the guy's and gal's who left good (read safe and 'real') jobs find something quickly. As to the management, they should be ashamed of themselves as it is not just them who took the risk. If they had nailed down the finance properly in the first place then no-one here would be arguing and their 'employees' wouldn't have been left up the creek. (Unlike themselves I would suggest.)
I hope all the guy's and gal's who left good (read safe and 'real') jobs find something quickly. As to the management, they should be ashamed of themselves as it is not just them who took the risk. If they had nailed down the finance properly in the first place then no-one here would be arguing and their 'employees' wouldn't have been left up the creek. (Unlike themselves I would suggest.)
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When were these slots cancelled? Are you 100% or could they be in the process of being re-negotiated. I thought Luton ATC does not require slots as per Heathrow etc (unless they are airways?)
When were these slots cancelled? Are you 100% or could they be in the process of being re-negotiated. I thought Luton ATC does not require slots as per Heathrow etc (unless they are airways?)
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Flightrider
Runway slots are required for LTN. Coordination done by ACL.
Eagerbeaver
I think you'll find that flymate has left the building, and possibly
the country.
Say again s l o w l y & trainer too 2
Most of the mangment are decent people. The bottom line is that
most of the problems stem from just one of them. Unfortunately
his ego, has cost a lot of people time and money.
Runway slots are required for LTN. Coordination done by ACL.
Eagerbeaver
I think you'll find that flymate has left the building, and possibly
the country.
Say again s l o w l y & trainer too 2
Most of the mangment are decent people. The bottom line is that
most of the problems stem from just one of them. Unfortunately
his ego, has cost a lot of people time and money.
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Tarek Nor yep, there's only one person to blame but lets face it, the said person will still be included when (if) they get airborne......I'm surprised the new financiers allow him to stay.
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And who is the troublesome manager?
The ex Virgin EXPRESS "Training Captain" or someone else?
wheelbarrow..bit close to the line. H
The ex Virgin EXPRESS "Training Captain" or someone else?
wheelbarrow..bit close to the line. H
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