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Old 23rd Dec 2003, 07:00
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New UK airline Air-Train

A NEW UK domestic airline wants to set up in Liverpool flying to 41 UK and Irish destinations in direct competition with the rail industry.

Air-Train proposes to use 32 200-seat jets with 16 permanently based here, creating almost 600 jobs at Liverpool John Lennon airport.

But airport chiefs say they do not have the capacity to handle the ambitious scheme and Air-Train founder Neil Bellion says he may now have to take his proposal to Manchester.

Airline consultant Mr Bellion, 39, from Liverpool, is part of a four-strong team aiming to raise £65m on the Alternative Invesment Market, the junior stock market, in the first quarter of 2004 to fund their plans.

He sees no shortage of investors: "Richard Branson recently floated an airline in Australia which was 10-times over subscribed, and easyJet's flotation was also oversubscribed.

"We want to get our funding away in the first quarter of the year and we have to have an airport in our prospectus. Manchester is looking more likely."

Mr Bellion, whose last project was setting up an airline in Kurdistan, said Liverpool has turned down his proposal but offered to help him set up at Finningley in York-shire, a small airport which parent company Peel bought earlier this year.

He said: "I've been talking with Liverpool for two years and I'm still looking at JLA, but they say they don't have the capacity.

"They need to raise their ambitions in terms of their infrastructure and their airport. There's bags of land available."

He added: "They don't want to spend the money on the infrastructure we need. Finningley isn't an option because it won't be open for another year."

He explained the idea behind using Liverpool as a "hub and spoke" operation is because it is ideally located in the middle of the country.

Planes would link virtually all the UK, from Northern Ireland to the tip of Scotland, London and the Channel Islands.

Mr Bellion said: "For example, if someone from Newcastle wanted to get to Birmingham they would fly to Liverpool and change planes onward to Birmingham.

"Liverpool would be like the Crewe station of the air industry."

Tickets would range from as little as £9 one way, with the most expensive return fare priced at £128.

"All fares will be lower than the train," said Mr Bellion.

"Flights will be ticketless. We'd issue smart cards. Passengers would book online and we would credit their smart card for the flight. Electronic readers would then allow their card access at the gate."

He said the business could handle 256 flights a day, carrying 22 million passengers a year, making Liverpool the country's fourth busiest airport.

And because most passengers would not carry luggage there was an opportunity to make Liverpool the UK's premier hub for same day mail and parcel delivery.

Although Air-Train would be a domestic operation he said it represents a fantastic opportunity for Liverpool to take long-haul transatlantic flights and offer passengers onward planes to anywhere in the country.

Mr Bellion says he has already been offered 33 Boeing 757s by Thomas Cook Airlines: "Because of the state of the holiday industry they are using smaller planes."

Liverpool JLA corporate affairs manager Robin Tudor said: "We're talking to a number of start-up operations and would include Neil Bellion in that.

"We do have a problem in that what he is proposing we couldn't accommodate in time.

"Our expansion plans have been agreed with the local authority and we can't divert from that.

"We have to be realistic as to what we can accommodate within the guidelines as agreed with the local authority. There's no point in kidding anybody if we can't cope with it. Parking the planes was a problem in itself.

"Finningley is a new airport with huge potential but we're still in discussions and we are certainly not saying 'go away we're not interested'."
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Looks like a graduate of "The Guvnor school of airline management".

London City, Plymouth & Guernsey should be fun in a 757. Where are they going to find the pax for 3 returns a day to Wick??? Where is Milton Keynes airport? (Cranfield???)
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He sees no shortage of investors: "Richard Branson recently floated an airline in Australia which was 10-times over subscribed, and easyJet's flotation was also oversubscribed.
Errmm....... the major difference here being they were both successful operating airlines at the time they floated. Not good justification for raising venture capital on a new start-up methinks.

Good luck to him however - could only be good news for us geezers!

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How is his airline in Kurdistan doing?
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Fine on the outward legs - begger all on the return I suspect!
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and here's the website............

http://www.btinternet.com/~neil.bellion/

Go have a gander - best larf I've had in a longgggg time!
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I fancy a flight from London City to Sligo but not until they get their new 2000 metre parallel runway! lol

Have a good Christmas one and all

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Hehe... lucky boy GIB - have a goodun... (bloody sleigh rating - biggest mistake of my flyin' career to date!!)

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Maybe he's gonna buy out and merge all the airlines in the UK to get that network!!

What a laugh!!
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Maybe its part of his business plan to expand all airports on his network to accomdate a 757.
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Old 24th Dec 2003, 03:21
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Cool

I guess it's for real. I got a travel time of 90 mins from BHX to BIG. That's just about right for a Connie on three engines allowing time to circle at dest while they pump the gear down

Jets are for kids!
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He's either a raving nutter...or going to leave the rest of us standing with his innovative business model (not going to plan shooting myself just yet)...and/or going to get away with spending others money and time (just like someone else we know)

A local LPL ppruner might want to enlighten the local papers as to the possible problems with what is planned...

Danny where are you? it's on your doorstep, are you going to be chief pilot ?
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Can’t wait to see a 757 operating out of Sheffield, Plymouth or Swansea. This is all doomed to failure as he isn’t using Luton but then has he renamed Luton as Milton Keynes.
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90 min and £46 day return from Cardiff to Swansea....??

Even the Autoroute 'shortest route' between those aerodromes takes 1:38! Quickest journey between the city centres is 0:49.......

Nice idea if it works though - just look out for all those 757s with missing hubcaps...
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i hope he flies the connie,much nicer to look at than the 757.
maybe he can use the airbus moto.
BETTER BY FOUR.he,he,he.:
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Talking

What a dreamer.

Even a five year old knows you can't operate schedules into Biggin. and as for getting a licence to operate into the CI's ?

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Hey Egg Man , if you're talking real connies, "Better by three " might be more apt.
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Thumbs up

Quite right Avman. The Connie was the finest three-engined airliner of its time .
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33 757's from TC? Wow. Times must be tough.

Now I've got an idea. How about an cut-price airline that operates out of somewhere cheap like, er Luton?

Keep it nice and simple with one type that we know and love, ooh like a 737. Then get yerself a website, a charismatic Greek chairman and a TV documentary to give you acres of free publicity.

Mmm, and a catchy name that implies how simple it is to use your airline, like 'Easy.....er....'

Too late. Doh....!

In all seriousness though, we're laughing at how this guy plans on getting a 75 into LCY (shows he's not a spotter!) but it's precisely these crack pots who end up millionaires!
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The Merseyside media and well and truly aware of the ambitious nature of this project I'm sure.

I'd really love to see it in operation but somehow I don't think I ever will
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