Edinburgh to become Scottish Hub.
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Edinburgh to become Scottish Hub.
Reading through the announcements yesterday I'm glad to hear that Edinburgh Airport has got the recognition it deserves and is earmarked for further expansion.
However my West coast colleagues are not so chuffed.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5022030.html
Old David Leask always huffs and puffs, I hope to no avail
However my West coast colleagues are not so chuffed.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5022030.html
Old David Leask always huffs and puffs, I hope to no avail
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Recognition from the self interested Edinburgh Govt maybe! Recognition from PIA, Emirates, USairways, American, Air Canada, Icelandair etc? Not likely!
These airlines recognise that GLA is the only airport that pax in Central Scotland want to fly from!
These airlines recognise that GLA is the only airport that pax in Central Scotland want to fly from!
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"Edinburgh to become Scottish Hub"
What a lot of tosh!!!
Edinburgh or Glasgow will never be classed as "hub" airports. Where will the passengers come from to transfer to other flights? I think that is what the idea of a hub airport is meant to be such as the likes of Manchester,Birmingham,Heathrow,Gatwick etc. etc.
As for a second runway at Edinburgh well don't hold out much hope for that one in the next thirty years I know of many airports around the world with four times the amount of PAX going through them and they don't have second runways.
That's politics for you, all talk to keep the gullable ones happy and get them voting.
What a lot of tosh!!!
Edinburgh or Glasgow will never be classed as "hub" airports. Where will the passengers come from to transfer to other flights? I think that is what the idea of a hub airport is meant to be such as the likes of Manchester,Birmingham,Heathrow,Gatwick etc. etc.
As for a second runway at Edinburgh well don't hold out much hope for that one in the next thirty years I know of many airports around the world with four times the amount of PAX going through them and they don't have second runways.
That's politics for you, all talk to keep the gullable ones happy and get them voting.
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Edinburgh to become main Scottish Airport
CHIVILCOY you are quite correct in what you say about the hub system so I have changed the title to more accurately reflect this.
billyg, well what can I say? What you say is correct at the moment as Edinburgh can't handle those aircraft in great numbers. But with the improvements to the airport I'm sure most of those carriers will want to move to the capital, Edinburgh.
Let's face it Glasgows glory days are over. Tis time for a tired old city (and airport) to move aside for a rejuvenated Edinburgh.
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billyg, well what can I say? What you say is correct at the moment as Edinburgh can't handle those aircraft in great numbers. But with the improvements to the airport I'm sure most of those carriers will want to move to the capital, Edinburgh.
Let's face it Glasgows glory days are over. Tis time for a tired old city (and airport) to move aside for a rejuvenated Edinburgh.
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most of those carriers will want to move to the capital
Surely northern Britain's main airport should be where northern Britain's people are.
That is most certainly the west.
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... east vs west, the point is that EDI without proper taxiways still only operates at about 50% capacity, GLA say 70%. There is no need for any extra capacity in Scotland for years (given propertaxiways), in the meantime LHR is operating at about 98% with suppressed demand for probably another 200 or movements a day.
Last time I had the 'pleasure' of operating ex EDI we had a 15 minute departure delay on 06 with no back track required primarily due to incompetent ATC tower controller getting nervous when someone was 6 mile final and not departing anyone in the gap. In that time at LGW they would have departed 1 or 2 aircraft.
Last time I had the 'pleasure' of operating ex EDI we had a 15 minute departure delay on 06 with no back track required primarily due to incompetent ATC tower controller getting nervous when someone was 6 mile final and not departing anyone in the gap. In that time at LGW they would have departed 1 or 2 aircraft.
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Glasgow's airports
What the Evening Times fails to note is that Glasgow has two airports (at least that's what the travelling public demonstrate the position to be). PIK is approaching 2 million passengers per annum and the White Paper indicates that this will be 6 million by 2030. In the previous draft paper from the Department for Transport that figure was 2.8 million; the increase to 6 million has come as a result of reconsidering the distribution of passengers between GLA and PIK resulting in GLA dropping from 18 million in the draft to 15 million in the final paper. When one takes into account the routes and volumes available from GLA and PIK combined and compares to EDI, Glasgow seems to do quite well and likewise will do well into the future as both GLA and PIK continue to develop more services.
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............. but PIK is not a Glasgow Airport, and never will be, apart from in the minds of MOL and Pik management! Ask the pax ,who turn up at GLA for their RYR flights, what they think!
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but PIK is not a Glasgow Airport, and never will be, apart from in the minds of MOL and Pik management! Ask the pax ,who turn up at GLA for their RYR flights, what they think!
How about asking the thousands of scandanavians and other EU nationals what they think? I'm sure they're all very happy that they are arriving at an airport with direct links taking them to the city centre in 35 minutes - no big deal for most airports in Europe (actually quite impressive), and oh, hang on, this area is quite nice as well (golf, tourism etc hence the region pushing its status across its inbound 'destination' market).
The geographical differences (and therefore the perceived travel times) between GLA and PIK to the city centre are factors which I believe are far more of a parochial factor than those posting on here would otherwise suggest. The time it takes from GLA (post baggage collection) is what? 20-30 minutes?(depending on mode - getting to car in car park, catching the bus, taxi). PIK? 45 minutes? Not really much of a difference.
TopBunk is correct - robust, structured development of the supporting infrastructure (taxiways etc) supported by efficient operational procedures is what the country requires in the next 5-10 years (who can REALLY say what will happen then, let alone 30 years).
PS - I'd be delighted to see cohesive development at all of our airports - one over the other, 'mine against yours' isn't really going to help anyone in the long run. Certainly not those who matter..... the passengers and the business community.
It presumably follows then that pax turn up at LHR for FR STN departures?
The best one is the number of people, each day, who turn up at Waterloo station in London, with their cars, to take them on the Eurostar through the Channel Tunnel, and have to be told that the car service leaves from Folkestone, 80 miles down the road!
