Av8air - ok to book?(merged)
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Av8air - ok to book?
Have been offered a good price MAN-TFS, much lower than AMM/BY/TCX etc... travelling with AV8Air next March.
Given that this airline hasn't even got off the ground yet - is it adviseable to book this?
Given that this airline hasn't even got off the ground yet - is it adviseable to book this?
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Loc Green,
If they are offering flights, they must be covered by an ATOL bond, which I believe is the case.
In which case, your booking will be covered and you would be safe to book. Wheher you actually ultimately travel on AV8Air remains to be seen. But your money would be safe.
The main risk would be if AV8Air just cancel the flight, in which case you would just be offered your money back, rather than alternative flights.
If they are offering flights, they must be covered by an ATOL bond, which I believe is the case.
In which case, your booking will be covered and you would be safe to book. Wheher you actually ultimately travel on AV8Air remains to be seen. But your money would be safe.
The main risk would be if AV8Air just cancel the flight, in which case you would just be offered your money back, rather than alternative flights.
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Loc Green maybe you should look at flymonarch.com as Monarch now do a daily scheduled MAN/TFS with all the frills included...we just don't like to tell anyone about these flights !!!!
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Hear Hear MudCity!
Localiser Green -
www.flymonarch.com
Why look anywhere else? Need endorsement? Look Here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=108413
And guess what? You could book a flight for tomorrow (if it's not full), let alone next March.
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www.flymonarch.com
Why look anywhere else? Need endorsement? Look Here:
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And guess what? You could book a flight for tomorrow (if it's not full), let alone next March.
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How can AV8 sell tickets when they don't have an AOC? Strange because NOW were told to get an AOC first before selling seats to generate revenue! Is this a rule for one and not for another ?
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Monarch seem to have a premium on those Fri flights... what do they have against timeshare owners 
For 5th March to 12th March they come out at £170.50 a head (6 travelling).
Av8Air are coming out at £149 a head (£129 cheaper in total for 6 pax).
Also they have much better times (06:20 t/o and an afternoon return). Monarch's flights won't get us there until 7pm so we would lose the first full day, and we get chucked out of the apartment at 11am on the final morning so we don't fancy a night time return to MAN.
For 5th March to 12th March they come out at £170.50 a head (6 travelling).
Av8Air are coming out at £149 a head (£129 cheaper in total for 6 pax).
Also they have much better times (06:20 t/o and an afternoon return). Monarch's flights won't get us there until 7pm so we would lose the first full day, and we get chucked out of the apartment at 11am on the final morning so we don't fancy a night time return to MAN.
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bacardi walla: How can AV8 sell tickets when they don't have an AOC?
Out of interest, Localiser Green: who is the tour operator? CT2 or Loco Flights maybe? Don’t forget that MyTravelLite now fly to TFS from MAN as well as BHX now. Also, MyTravelFlights.com are offering seat-only flights on those days for £148 per person (including all taxes), which beats your AV8 offer by a quid.
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bacardi.... i may be wrong, but this is my understanding. NOW are a schedueld airline, so need an AOC to sell tickets....
Av8 are a charter airline so are not selling you the tickets. The tickets will be sold by CT2 or locoflights.com, they are selling you a ticket to Tenerife, at the moment they are chartering AV8 air for that flight, but it could be anyone. its how all charters work, you book on air2000.com and you are actually being sold that ticket by FirstChoice etc etc....
Av8 are a charter airline so are not selling you the tickets. The tickets will be sold by CT2 or locoflights.com, they are selling you a ticket to Tenerife, at the moment they are chartering AV8 air for that flight, but it could be anyone. its how all charters work, you book on air2000.com and you are actually being sold that ticket by FirstChoice etc etc....
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Cheap flights
On the subject of cheap flights, the latest Bmibaby promotion is offering free flights, just pay tax.
I am going to Barcelona, Nice, Alicante and Toulouse over the next 2 months with them. Total cost for 8 flights £78 !!!!! Bargain or what.
Buenos Dias
I am going to Barcelona, Nice, Alicante and Toulouse over the next 2 months with them. Total cost for 8 flights £78 !!!!! Bargain or what.
Buenos Dias
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Localiser Green -
Monarch have nothing against time share owners, it's just that Friday flights are more popular and so Monarch can sell them at a higher price. It's a less extreme version of the load management strategy that most airlines, particularly the lo-co's, use these days.
If you can travel on Thursday the prices might well be cheaper.
In addition, a TFS rotation is a difficult one as it is about twice as long as the average low-cost rotation and consequently difficult to fit in to the program. However, if demand warrants it I am sure you will see an increase in the service.
Monarch have nothing against time share owners, it's just that Friday flights are more popular and so Monarch can sell them at a higher price. It's a less extreme version of the load management strategy that most airlines, particularly the lo-co's, use these days.
If you can travel on Thursday the prices might well be cheaper.
In addition, a TFS rotation is a difficult one as it is about twice as long as the average low-cost rotation and consequently difficult to fit in to the program. However, if demand warrants it I am sure you will see an increase in the service.
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AV8-Air is a full subsidiary of the HCCT Transport Group, better known under the brands CT2 Holidays and Loco Flights.
Allegedly, their first B757-200 is now at Lasham and their B767 is being fitted out elsewhere. No firm news on the AOC yet though?!
The B757 is planned to "live" at T2, Manchester to do all the Spanish stuff that CT2 and Loco are very strong on at Manch. The B767 will be at Manchester also this winter before its planned move to Newcastle, whereupon it will start all that fancy additional flying such as Delhi, Jo'burg and Port Elizabeth.
Still not quite sure what the market is for a NCL-DEL flight...the other South African routes are supposed to go via MAN anyway.
Good news, at least, is that apparently Brits and Monarch have withdrawn their objections to AV8 operating the South African routes using an Icelandic-registered aircraft!!
Allegedly, their first B757-200 is now at Lasham and their B767 is being fitted out elsewhere. No firm news on the AOC yet though?!
The B757 is planned to "live" at T2, Manchester to do all the Spanish stuff that CT2 and Loco are very strong on at Manch. The B767 will be at Manchester also this winter before its planned move to Newcastle, whereupon it will start all that fancy additional flying such as Delhi, Jo'burg and Port Elizabeth.
Still not quite sure what the market is for a NCL-DEL flight...the other South African routes are supposed to go via MAN anyway.
Good news, at least, is that apparently Brits and Monarch have withdrawn their objections to AV8 operating the South African routes using an Icelandic-registered aircraft!!
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Voldermort;
No, Delhi is in addition to Durban!
(Furthermore, there are a number of MAN-DXB rotations planned during the xmas/new year peak and also a set of MAN-ATH flights planned next summer to coincide with the Olympics)
No, Delhi is in addition to Durban!
(Furthermore, there are a number of MAN-DXB rotations planned during the xmas/new year peak and also a set of MAN-ATH flights planned next summer to coincide with the Olympics)
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Less than 2 weeks to the start of their South African flying
programme and as of today's date, still no AOC, according to the
CAA's website: http://www.caa.co.uk/cpg/airline_lic...t.asp?page=340
Lets hope Icelandair can bail these people out by operating this on their own flight numbers,
or would that require a fresh 5th freedom application ?
CG
programme and as of today's date, still no AOC, according to the
CAA's website: http://www.caa.co.uk/cpg/airline_lic...t.asp?page=340
Lets hope Icelandair can bail these people out by operating this on their own flight numbers,
or would that require a fresh 5th freedom application ?
CG