Britannia recruiting - new 737 operation
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TUI UK drops Britannia brand, Lunn Poly safe
TUI UK’s drive to increase its seat-only business is behind the decision to drop its Britannia airline brand in favour of Thomson.
UK managing director Chris Mottershead said: ‘People are bombarded with advertisements and offers from a huge range of travel brands these days. We aim to use the growth of our seat-only business as a means of focusing the customer even more on Thomson.
‘We want customers to have a clear understanding that Thomson is the leading holiday company in the UK and that we can cater for all their travel needs whether it's a one way flight to Malaga or a five star, all-inclusive holiday to the Maldives.’
Mottershead took the opportunity to insist that TUI UK has no plans to rebrand Lunn Poly, describing it as the high street market leader with very strong customer awareness. ‘We see no value in rebranding our Lunn Poly shop network’ he said.
TUI UK’s drive to increase its seat-only business is behind the decision to drop its Britannia airline brand in favour of Thomson.
UK managing director Chris Mottershead said: ‘People are bombarded with advertisements and offers from a huge range of travel brands these days. We aim to use the growth of our seat-only business as a means of focusing the customer even more on Thomson.
‘We want customers to have a clear understanding that Thomson is the leading holiday company in the UK and that we can cater for all their travel needs whether it's a one way flight to Malaga or a five star, all-inclusive holiday to the Maldives.’
Mottershead took the opportunity to insist that TUI UK has no plans to rebrand Lunn Poly, describing it as the high street market leader with very strong customer awareness. ‘We see no value in rebranding our Lunn Poly shop network’ he said.
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FastJet Wannabe: Has anything been posted officially anywhere regarding the new name
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Another piece in the jigsaw?
Putting two and two together...
The BHX slot filings after the recent scheduling conference make interesting reading.
Of course there's no guarantee that any airline will fly any or all of the slots it applies for, but still...
A carrier with 3-letter code BAL (Britannia, I think) has filed for daily services with 737s (though they've specified 737-500s, which is odd) from BHX to each of the following:
IBZ, AGP, ALC, BCN, MAD, AMS, ORY, CIA, VCE, NAP.
I'd say that's about 4 737s-worth of flying...
Interestingly, Britannia (sorry, "Thomson") has also filed a regular charter programme from BHX under two-letter code "BY".
The BHX slot filings after the recent scheduling conference make interesting reading.
Of course there's no guarantee that any airline will fly any or all of the slots it applies for, but still...
A carrier with 3-letter code BAL (Britannia, I think) has filed for daily services with 737s (though they've specified 737-500s, which is odd) from BHX to each of the following:
IBZ, AGP, ALC, BCN, MAD, AMS, ORY, CIA, VCE, NAP.
I'd say that's about 4 737s-worth of flying...
Interestingly, Britannia (sorry, "Thomson") has also filed a regular charter programme from BHX under two-letter code "BY".
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I went for an assessment yesterday. They weren't very forthcoming as there seems to be an embargo on information until an official press announcement. They did say that the Britannia name is to be retained, although the TUI logo will be more in evidence. Ts & Cs broadly industry standard - not as good as mainstream White Hat. Looks like a March 2004 start. No info on base or 737 variant although the general consensus of the pilots present was Coventry and -500s.
Hapag Lloyd has five 737-500s on strength - two of which are currently on lease to Malev with the leases due to expire in December 2003. Two are out in Georgia and the fifth is in Hapag Lloyd Express. HLX's 737-500s also had 128 seats (the same as being proposed for the UK operator). It doesn't appear to be rocket science to put two and two together to assume that the Britannia aircraft will be the HLX 737-500s.
Might it be called TuiLite (pronounced "Twilight")?
Might it be called TuiLite (pronounced "Twilight")?
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I just filled in the application that has been sitting on my desk for a week. Nothing changed, large spaces to explain your educational errors at sixteen, lots of questions about your time to solo (on a captains application form), and a limited space to expalin what you are about.
What is the obsession in this country with school exams that are so long ago as to be irrelevant to hiring a current 737 captain.
IMHO it is discriminatory in favour of chaps who have been thru a standard grammar,uni,raf, uk training programme. So if those standard Brittania attitudes still apply how will they fare in a non old boy market like lo cost. I feel i have alot to offer anew company but having filled in that form i feel like a 16 yr old again standing in front of my father being told i would come to a sticky end. right then Chip dusted off. hope i get in
What is the obsession in this country with school exams that are so long ago as to be irrelevant to hiring a current 737 captain.
IMHO it is discriminatory in favour of chaps who have been thru a standard grammar,uni,raf, uk training programme. So if those standard Brittania attitudes still apply how will they fare in a non old boy market like lo cost. I feel i have alot to offer anew company but having filled in that form i feel like a 16 yr old again standing in front of my father being told i would come to a sticky end. right then Chip dusted off. hope i get in
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Just having a 737 ticket isn't enough. Perhaps it is for some operators. Britannia have a well-tested recruitment process and they are happy with the individuals who have been successful over the years.
The application form is a brief snapshot and the first stage of any assessment. Companies should always have a strong idea of the type of individual that they want to recruit; one that will fit with the culture: i.e. a known quantity. People conform to predictable behaviour characteristics based on their background - more than most of us would be willing to admit.
A likely reason that someone has a problem or a hang-up with educational qualifications is if they don't have any. Academic qualifications are a useful indicator of an individual's ability outside of the practical box of day-to-day flying. Several have succeeded to high levels without a strong academic background but that requires a leap of faith by an employer; there's insufficient time for that in a recruitment programme.
Strong 'A' levels and a degree are only irrelevant if you have them. By today's standards and equally relevant to the past, certain qualifications are a demonstration of an ability to work and apply oneself to a higher level - exactly how a pilot should perform, consistently, in the workplace.
Stop downgrading my profession, status is earned and we should do our best to keep it by our own actions and abilities.
The application form is a brief snapshot and the first stage of any assessment. Companies should always have a strong idea of the type of individual that they want to recruit; one that will fit with the culture: i.e. a known quantity. People conform to predictable behaviour characteristics based on their background - more than most of us would be willing to admit.
A likely reason that someone has a problem or a hang-up with educational qualifications is if they don't have any. Academic qualifications are a useful indicator of an individual's ability outside of the practical box of day-to-day flying. Several have succeeded to high levels without a strong academic background but that requires a leap of faith by an employer; there's insufficient time for that in a recruitment programme.
Strong 'A' levels and a degree are only irrelevant if you have them. By today's standards and equally relevant to the past, certain qualifications are a demonstration of an ability to work and apply oneself to a higher level - exactly how a pilot should perform, consistently, in the workplace.
Stop downgrading my profession, status is earned and we should do our best to keep it by our own actions and abilities.
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From my experience, recruiters in most disciplines view the value of any paper qualification as being inversely proportional to the length of time since it was obtained. Britannia seem to have had a successful recruiting policy over the years so I would guess that they have taken this particular fact on board.
I, too, get mildly irritated at having to fill in reams about the distant past but I do see it from the other side of the table - the HR people and others involved in making initial selections have to have some kind of common datum to work from. If the process is leavened with common sense, no harm is done.
Wouldn't it be nice if the airlines could come up with an industry-standard application form in two parts? The first part could be common for education, work history, flying experience, nationality etc. which we could all quickly cut-and-paste, leaving the second part for the special requirements of the specific airline.
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I, too, get mildly irritated at having to fill in reams about the distant past but I do see it from the other side of the table - the HR people and others involved in making initial selections have to have some kind of common datum to work from. If the process is leavened with common sense, no harm is done.
Wouldn't it be nice if the airlines could come up with an industry-standard application form in two parts? The first part could be common for education, work history, flying experience, nationality etc. which we could all quickly cut-and-paste, leaving the second part for the special requirements of the specific airline.
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As before with a lot of companies that try to go from where they are, to where they (think) they want to go, they will get a wake up call, big style. Sure mainline Britannia are an exceptional company in many respects, but if they become tuilite and want to take on the loco's they will need to get their cost down big style and that starts with the wages up front. Next they'll want you to have a type rating because it saves time, cash and lots of line trainers time.
If you hopefulls think you are joining a `junior`Britannia,with a route to mainline, think again. The boys and girls at bmi-regional have been `sold` that line with first big blue,then the baby and a how many regional pilots (bmi)are working for baby after a year and a bit? `ONE` !! and he was ex mainline and rated by them in the first place.
So see them for what they will become, another Jet2/DUO/mylite and the rest that are late on the band wagon. Ryanair might be crap at many things including employing pilots that speak english, but watch their results this week.Its OK been all posh and having pilots that know the finer points of life from their RAF paid for training and university education paid for by the taxes of ex-Durham miners, but as in life you get what you pay for, trouble everyone wants to pay less and get more for it passenger and airlines a like. I am sorry to say that the Britannia name going is the same as `rule` Britannai's shield in terms of the decline of the UK standing in the world or 52nd State
If you hopefulls think you are joining a `junior`Britannia,with a route to mainline, think again. The boys and girls at bmi-regional have been `sold` that line with first big blue,then the baby and a how many regional pilots (bmi)are working for baby after a year and a bit? `ONE` !! and he was ex mainline and rated by them in the first place.
So see them for what they will become, another Jet2/DUO/mylite and the rest that are late on the band wagon. Ryanair might be crap at many things including employing pilots that speak english, but watch their results this week.Its OK been all posh and having pilots that know the finer points of life from their RAF paid for training and university education paid for by the taxes of ex-Durham miners, but as in life you get what you pay for, trouble everyone wants to pay less and get more for it passenger and airlines a like. I am sorry to say that the Britannia name going is the same as `rule` Britannai's shield in terms of the decline of the UK standing in the world or 52nd State
Good oh