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I know and I have apologised to Findo as I did go a wee bit too far on some of the things I said,and I apologise to anyone else affected by my postings,but somethings can get a wee bit out of hand.I hope this can be the end of the stupid debate about it now that someone has posted an official like announcement on it.
Air Omega.On a brighter note,
will it be a british registered fleet of aircraft or German,and will it be a Uk operation or will there be a possibility of some euro routes.Afterall,PIK are looking for somebody to fill in the routes used by Globespan I thought.
How many routes will be announced?
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Air Omega.On a brighter note,
will it be a british registered fleet of aircraft or German,and will it be a Uk operation or will there be a possibility of some euro routes.Afterall,PIK are looking for somebody to fill in the routes used by Globespan I thought.
How many routes will be announced?
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How is the AOC doing ???
Air Omega GmbH's AOC was withdrawn by the Luftfahrtbundesamt in mid-July (if memory serves), resulting in the two E120 being grounded at Cologne and Coventry (and the contracts with ChannEx and Atlantic Airlies going bust) . Has it been re-awarded and what is the story behind this AOC problem ?
I would like to stress that Air Omega UK went public in Germany in April 2003 with big plans for a network of scheduled services from Augsburg (AGB) with a fleet of four FD 328-300s. The airport started promoting the services, an amateurish web-site was up and running but in the end, nothing happened at all on the promised dates (early June that was).
The people at Air Omega GmbH also were quite keen to point out that there were no ties between them and Air Omega UK other than that a (rather notorious) shareholder in Air Omega GmbH was the man behind Air Omega UK.
Anyone able to shed some light into this confusing story ?
I would like to stress that Air Omega UK went public in Germany in April 2003 with big plans for a network of scheduled services from Augsburg (AGB) with a fleet of four FD 328-300s. The airport started promoting the services, an amateurish web-site was up and running but in the end, nothing happened at all on the promised dates (early June that was).
The people at Air Omega GmbH also were quite keen to point out that there were no ties between them and Air Omega UK other than that a (rather notorious) shareholder in Air Omega GmbH was the man behind Air Omega UK.
Anyone able to shed some light into this confusing story ?
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Thanks AirOmega, so no truth what so ever that the parent company was in any kind of financial trouble or had their a/c grounded when their AOC was cancelled by the German authorities?
Good luck and wish the UK operation all the sucess.
kpiko3 - Apple or humble?
Frankfurt_Cowboy - enjoy the humour, knew I could count on you
Virgin Blue - Obviously under the same confusion as I
Good luck and wish the UK operation all the sucess.
kpiko3 - Apple or humble?
Frankfurt_Cowboy - enjoy the humour, knew I could count on you
Virgin Blue - Obviously under the same confusion as I
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AirOmega, it would be nice if you responded to people who took the trouble to reply to your recent advert on flightinternational.com website.
The German website still talks about their UK startup so I fail to see how there can be no connection, and the AOC was withdrawn, another fact.
I do wish you well, but have grave doubts as I think the major player at PIK might not like these upstarts!
And on the freight front, not a chance in those old Bras, bulk freight is on the way out (just look at the mess BAC are in), so I doubt very much a new player can get any work, sorry if this sounds harsh, but its the way it is right now, containerised freight rules the roost.
The German website still talks about their UK startup so I fail to see how there can be no connection, and the AOC was withdrawn, another fact.
I do wish you well, but have grave doubts as I think the major player at PIK might not like these upstarts!
And on the freight front, not a chance in those old Bras, bulk freight is on the way out (just look at the mess BAC are in), so I doubt very much a new player can get any work, sorry if this sounds harsh, but its the way it is right now, containerised freight rules the roost.
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Meeb - I am sure your CV will be looked over and the relevant person will respond to you in the fullness of time.
Thank you for your well wishing. But as regards to the established airlines at any airport feeling uneasy as regards to upstarts coming in and doing routes and services currently not served. I see no problem and should only serve to show that we sould never rest on our laurels and always plan well and look forward to the next route and aircraft.
The German AOC. For legal reasons i cannot say why in detail but the people concerned are no longer wih the company. You will actually find Air Omega has prodominatley British staff now.
Virginblue - Please look above. We are the same company.
Kpiko - We have British and German registered in our fleet so it will be a mix at the moment. As for routes i would love to tell you but those pearls of wisdom are quite sensitive at the moment so you will have to wait and see. UK prodominently but will move onto Euro routes in the new year, with differnt a/c types.
As for the questions regarding AOC or the comany finances. I feel i have answered all i can do at the moment so i expect not to see much more speculation. o all the doubters......watch this space!!!
Thank you for your well wishing. But as regards to the established airlines at any airport feeling uneasy as regards to upstarts coming in and doing routes and services currently not served. I see no problem and should only serve to show that we sould never rest on our laurels and always plan well and look forward to the next route and aircraft.
The German AOC. For legal reasons i cannot say why in detail but the people concerned are no longer wih the company. You will actually find Air Omega has prodominatley British staff now.
Virginblue - Please look above. We are the same company.
Kpiko - We have British and German registered in our fleet so it will be a mix at the moment. As for routes i would love to tell you but those pearls of wisdom are quite sensitive at the moment so you will have to wait and see. UK prodominently but will move onto Euro routes in the new year, with differnt a/c types.
As for the questions regarding AOC or the comany finances. I feel i have answered all i can do at the moment so i expect not to see much more speculation. o all the doubters......watch this space!!!
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Air Omega, you miss our point, I believe we wish the operation all the best of luck in the world, what we are speculating over is the fact that your company is advertising for staff, whom should no the facts and recent history of the airline, its parent and financial backers
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From an article in today's evening paper -
But Mr Wilson today stressed the loss of Germania, which had capacity of just 20,000 passengers a year, will be more than offset by major new services to Italian fashion capital Milan and Ireland's Shannon.
The flights to Italy and Ireland are due to start in January and
December.
Mr Wilson said: "We are talking about up to 200,000 passengers a year."
And he said he was in talks with a freight airline Omega UK on launching a regular passenger service from Prestwick to Birmingham.
At least confiming Omega are talking about something.
Hope they don't find one of the new Ryanair bases is Birmingham and an immediate link to the PIK base.
But Mr Wilson today stressed the loss of Germania, which had capacity of just 20,000 passengers a year, will be more than offset by major new services to Italian fashion capital Milan and Ireland's Shannon.
The flights to Italy and Ireland are due to start in January and
December.
Mr Wilson said: "We are talking about up to 200,000 passengers a year."
And he said he was in talks with a freight airline Omega UK on launching a regular passenger service from Prestwick to Birmingham.
At least confiming Omega are talking about something.
Hope they don't find one of the new Ryanair bases is Birmingham and an immediate link to the PIK base.
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It looks like that will happen Findo.Looks like Ryanair will do a PIK-BOH and leave till about a week after Omega announce this route and surprise evrybody,but I am sure Omega can find another route to serve,possibly even Belfast,bristol or East Midlands.
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I spoke to someone from Air Omega at Prestwick Airport last Monday. He said that there would be an announcement within the next two days. I'm still waiting! He wouldn't be drawn on what routes Air Omega are going to operate. I know that Prestwick - Birmingham will probably be one of them.
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Interesting to read the 'development' of the planned routes. Belfast could be a real success and maybe birmingham but east mids (well served to GLA with baby and easy)?
Mind you, apparently Air Wales are launching LPL NCL and CWL...... anyone else need/want connecting services??
Where is the demand for services such as those that Air Omega plan?
Just realised BHX is quite well connected to GLA as well. Makes the question even more pertinent then.
Mind you, apparently Air Wales are launching LPL NCL and CWL...... anyone else need/want connecting services??
Where is the demand for services such as those that Air Omega plan?
Just realised BHX is quite well connected to GLA as well. Makes the question even more pertinent then.
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Announcement in two days
James,
somebody said there would be an announcement in two days two weeks ago,But I do believe Air Omega will announce soon because there quite a regular visitor into PIK now with freight and they say they have made PIK an official base and have offices here so seems the announcement will be soon.
Kpiko3
somebody said there would be an announcement in two days two weeks ago,But I do believe Air Omega will announce soon because there quite a regular visitor into PIK now with freight and they say they have made PIK an official base and have offices here so seems the announcement will be soon.
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Air Omega - AOC?
kpiko3 - You posted "quite a regular visitor into PIK now with freight".
Whose AOC are they operating on then?
I thought that the German AOC had been withdrawn? Have they got a UK AOC now? Are the EMB120's on the UK register??
Whose AOC are they operating on then?
I thought that the German AOC had been withdrawn? Have they got a UK AOC now? Are the EMB120's on the UK register??
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Yak97, there are no EMB120 Brasilias on the UK register, so if they intend to do so it will involve quite alot of work, they will probably remain German registered as they are just now. However, just cant see the pax side working, too many big players on the scene in PIK, although PIK-Belfast in Gill days did quite well, so thats 1 route, but PIK-BHX? I doubt it. I wish them well, but freight only is more likely, and they are foreign crews, so even more jobs lost... 
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When I spoke to the Air Omega representative for PIK (I will not name names) a few days ago, he indicated that they were seriously considering basing a passenger EMB120 at PIK - in addition to the cargo aircraft that they already operated out of there on a regular basis.
Whether the aircraft will actually be based there I do not know - but they certainly seem to be hard at work making PIK their UK base of operations.
Whether the aircraft will actually be based there I do not know - but they certainly seem to be hard at work making PIK their UK base of operations.