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Africanhope that is sad news indeed.

When I left it seems like that was the last thing on their worry list.

But if you can remember I had my doubts to why they want to lease it straight instead of going through a deal that (for instance) SNA and the Egyptians (previously Monarch did) ? A package deal ...?

I personally think to have your "own" Aircraft on start up and to manage crew / pax / freight / and all the rest is a big tester if you are a small start - up airline ... or what you guys think ? :*

Suddenly it went very quit here ?

Sorry guys - have been away on my travels so am waiting for more news myself.

It does seem that the bottom line is cash, and and when it comes everyone will want a bite of the cherry!

Have been assured the cash is on its way and when it does guess things will start to move pretty quickly

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Crewmael: Is there any news on aircraft?? Why has all the money dried up so early on in the start up phase, surely some genious has budgeted for slight hickups.
I usually have an optimistic outlook on things but that optimism is starting to fade rapidly with each month that passes!!
realistically is this opp still on the cards? O ris it dead in the water:zzz:

Regards Enigmajet.

enigma - appreciate your concerns and I am in the same boat - still waiting for news. But still feel pretty confident about it all as do Wynnwith the agency. Itsa matter of 'when' and not 'if'

Maybe guns has more info as he is on the doorstep!!

Enigmajet and Crewmeal, are you Flight Crew or Cabin Crew ?? I ask because i know that an african operation is starting up within the next couple of weeks. I in fact have the details for this operation.

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Well my good man dont be shy!! Are you willing to spill the beans?

BTW: I am flight crew.

in AFRICAN HOPE we trust:D

Update tomorrow
 

Promise you guys feedback tomorrow .. my contact came back from a trip to Guinea tonight.

Hope it is good news ... :ok:

It is a A310 wetlease, so for the hopefull Flight Deck Crew, sorry. Cabin Crew ? Will know during the week ?

Will post more details shortly when I am sure they are correct. But for the wetlease, that is a fact.

Morning Latest
 

Anyone know what Wynnwith are saying about it? Crewmeal, can you shed any light from our side of the cockpit door?

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Gunship

Hope lunch was good!
Are the 737's a wet lease deal as well according to your sources,or is it just the A310??
Appreciate the updates thanks a lot.
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African hope

I have heard nothing from Wynnwith in a long long time!
I dont know if they read this or not but an occasional phone call wouldnt go astray. I take it that you are Cabin Crew, I'm afraid that I have no news on that front. Or on the flight deck front for that matter.
Still trying to keep the good side out!!:bored:

I am flight deck crew.

Regarding the B737 I have no info !

As it is a wetlease Wynnwith (A310) they will have no say in that matter but maybe for the Cabin crew/flight deck B737 depending what kind of contract it is ?

Sorry ... lunch was F A N T A S T IC .. sorry no news .. he did not go to DCA .. only tomorrow.

Feedback coming .. vasbyt ... ;)

Wynnwith is not interrested any more in this projet :\

Also not such good news - SORRY !
 

Sorry guys .. I also do not have much other that they are still trying ... sorry my contact is really "high - up" and he is running into closed doors which is not good news I am afraid ... :mad:

Good news normally goes with Fanfare here ! :E

Better news ?
 

I hope I have a bit of better news today ...

"Bumped" into a guy last night over a few pints.

He mentioned that "all is on track" .. he mentioned the A310 but he spoke a lot about two 737's coming from America via the UK for inspection.

Hopefully Monday less speculation and something very positive for you guys !

Cheers

Gunsss ...

Seemed that the A310 deal was on track and signed, but suddenly the company had no cash. Deal off again. Know for certain in a weeks time.

Winnwyth out of the deal now. Interesting to see what happens now ??

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Hey Folks.

Has anybody heard anything back from capt Pappas yet??
Does anyone know anything about the 200's??

Crewmeal do you have any updates. Or is it still all quite on the western front!!.

Have been out of the UK for the past 2 weeks so wýll get down to busýness on monday. So far I have left messages for people at ECO to call me but nothýng yet. That was 2 weeks ago.

As far as I am aware Wynnwýth have put the project on hold untýl such týmes as ECO decýde what they are doýng.

AQs promýsed I wýll let the forum know (good or bad news) when I get ýt. Belýeve me I am just a mushroom as well!!!

The news is that there "maybe" be some news in a few weeks time ?

Hope the best but fear the worst !

Sorry guys - after I saw the post I phoned all my contacts - not ONE answers (Fri Muslim Prayer day) and 5h1t next door In Liberia has everyone on the hind legs !

I will see my contact over a dop tonight or somewhere over rugby tomorrow !

B O K K E ! ! !

Believe this chapter is closed now !

I hear through the african aviation grapevine that Mr olu harding has done the disappearing trick owing thousands to employees, lawyers agencies etc. i also hear that he has had his ship impounded due to unpaid 'fees'.

So what of the airline now? was this all a big hoax to get people interested? Pilots conned in to sim rides at their own expense? Building up hopes of a career?

Mr harding certainly hasn't inspired any confidences in african aviation.

So will there ever be an airline to serve the people of SL or is it a pipe dream?

Comments please..........on a post card

Guns my man, seeing that you are right there in the hub of it all, are you aware of the fact Sierra National Airlines has begun operating a wet-leased Airbus A310-304 from Egypt's Midwest Airlines on its London - Freetown scheduled service?

This replaces the agreement with Monarch Airlines which had been operating the service with a Boeing 757. So maybe you will be able to get a seat to Europe more often, golf bag and all, seeing that you can't play golf in Zim anymore!!!!!! Mmmmmm???

Forgot to add GUNS, that ECO AIR, a SL start up carrier has secured an AOC, and will begin operations soon. They will be using B737's initially, but will change to an Airbus A310 later.

Do you think there will be jobs for us in SL with all this civial aviation development? You should become a "recruiter" bru!

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you are way behind the times the last flt on the a310 for sna was monday/tuesday
this friday i understand is a titan airways (uk operator 757)
dont know what happens after that
just keep your eyes peeled

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Hey Crewmeal

Hows life? anything on the horizon??
Any news or signs of life, or are we hoping invain??

Cheers Enigma.:D

Sorry guys I have no more news for anyone. Everything is on hold and after chatting to various people it looks like its going to be a non starter for now.

Shame really as there has been so much effort and work put in by a lot of people.

As to pervy pilots input - I cannot comment - I hope its not true though!!!

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What happened to rule this start up out?
Why no response or news from Papas or Wynnwith?
Has anyone heard anything lately?:zzz:

no news for the moment
but A310 sim instructors requiered in london ????:\

Hope to bring you better news on my return.. 8 Aug. :ok:

gunship any news ????????

crewmeal, Gunship, Anyone

Is there any movement on this one??
I have not been told anything by agency or anyone.
Any news at all????
Cheers.

Enigma.:bored:

Sadly the whole thing has been one big con from start to finish. The agencies, lawyers, employees etc have been left owed thousands with no chance of getting their money back.