A real shame things are on the current trajectory. Was considering giving up a ME gig to come over. Not now.

W W......dont

They are gonna have to improve on so many things. Pay....but first and foremost, mutual respect. There is none of that. None. Your contract is just a piece of paper. So are CAA limits. So are all manuals.

So! The time has come.
E-mails begging/threatening expats to cut their 10 days off even further - due to crew shortage.

Wow. What aircraft are you on Cid30? How's the wording in that email? I haven't received it.

LLOL! No surprise then to see Ethiopian going the same way as every other African airline. Once the state subsidies get cut, the business model is unsustainable. Get out quick!

Working on it TS :-) And so are many others.

Any recent updates? They’ve just ordered 4 freighters at the Dubai Air Show, going to have to treat the contracts with more respect or they can continue to watch everyone leave

Let's just stop believing in Santa Claus while we're at it, shall we. Clear proof that nothing will change in ET, except to the worse. To people thinking about joining...grab a rifle and shoot yourself in both feet. You'll know, that at least you knew before you pulled the trigger, what you signed up for.

Thank you all for the informative posts.

One thing I'm not was covered (maybe it was an I missed it), do they do conversion course for airbus pilots? or do we have to be type rated?

What’s the latest for ex pat 787 DECS, is anyone happy there? There’s a big advert in flight international this week, so they’re obviously short, most of the feedback was good a couple of years ago, most posters on this thread seem pretty disgruntled now or is it the happy guys just aren’t posting anything.

Sucram,

You can ask yourself; Why is a company, 'flagcarrier', with lots of 787 and A350 , constantly desperate for new pilots to crew them?

Are you still there or have you gone back to Europe?

The problem is there are very few Airlines taking DEC 787 pilots on a 20/10 contract, on the face of it it seems reasonable but your reports are at odds with that.

Yes, contract looks 'ok' on the face of it. But it isn't respected. Manuals are not respected. CAA limits are not respected. And if you, as the PIC insists on respecting them, you're in for abuse! Im still there, trying to get out. I'll give you this; If looking towards the East is not for you, maybe ET would be a way for you. But you WILL get terribly frustrated.

What would you make say for 80 hours average in ET.
B787 Skipper.
Just curious. No mention anywhere in the adverts.

MD80767 Driver

Thanks for the feed back and honest opinion, I’m just looking for a couple of years to finish my career having taken early retirement after 30years in a big European Airline, I’m sure the ET practices would be a big shock, now I know what to expect.

Flaperon777. 80 hours; 9000 usd + 1250 usd Housing + 1200 usd per diem. Over 80 hs/month = 1/80'th overtime pay = 112 usd/hour

More questions! How much do you reckon average rental costs you? Cheers

Sucram...if you share a house with 3 or 4 other expats expect to pay 400-600 usd per month, normally that comes with a driver and domestic service too, if you decide to do your stay in a hotel for your 20 days on then it will eat all your housing allowance and a little more

Thanks for the info, just another one if you are 787 rated do they now withhold $15000 for six months for training?, I would have thought this was only for transfer to 777 but it is on the info sheet.