Double Engine Removal for Kulula at Lanseria
Does anyone have any information why SAA Technical staff were removing both engines offa Kulula 737 at Lanseria today.............:ooh:
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Swopping them around for trouble shooting ............. :E
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They probably weren't SAA engineers, more likely Nigerians in false uniforms. In a couple of days those engines will be up for sale in Lagos, or the Cape Flats, and the aircraft up on bricks!
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Nugpot has this one nailed :)
Catastrophic, barely contained HP turbine failure at TOD, engineers swapped them to see if the fault transfers :E |
I heard both thronomisters went U/S on the climb.
The old wobble flange models are prone to that happening. |
This 737 was not an old 200. Engines were a bit mor modern than that.
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I heard that the captain had complained that the copilot could not be trusted to monitor the right engine on start, so the engineers took it upon themselves to help the old captain out and swap the engines over so he could check it himself. :E
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If the technical staff you refer to, were the special breed found only in South Africa, going by the name of 'engineers' - then yes, part swapping is the most likely diagnosis as that is about as far as their skills go.
If however, they were mechanics, it might have been a double engine change. With good chance of success I might add. ^ re-reading that, I know it makes little sense, but to me and anyone else who thinks this term 'engineer' is a little far fetched...you will know what I mean.:rolleyes: |
"De-engineerer" or "Anti-engineer" seem to me to be waaaaaay more appropriate titles... "How to make un-servicable, that which is servicable" seems to be the standard issue manual for said bunch!
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cj750
was you hoping for a serious reply? gs |
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Where you hoping for a series answer to this, or these ting failing for ground?
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yes i was hoping for an answer.
a double engine removal by saa clad engineers on the apron at lanseria is not something you see very often unlike some other destinations i have been to in africa. |
Nigerians stealing Kulula engines?
Capetonian, you're a lowdown cheap racist iddiiioooottttt !
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flareout BC,
Your sense of humour is severely under developed. And unfortunately Capetonian's post accurately reflects the morals of the majority of Nigerians in South Africa. I didn't see any race mentioned in his post. Is the racism card the only one you have? It doesn't have any value in SA anymore - sort of like producing a joker while playing bridge. |
Wonder if the Aeronexus 767 that's been doing some flights for Comair is being leased in to cover this U/S 73, or if we'll be seeing the 767 flying for Comair a bit more long term.
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Sensitive spanner swingers?
Whatever next...?:} |
sort of like producing a joker while playing bridge. Talking about sensitive spanner swingers. I see there are a few woman creeping in to the hangers with toolboxes. Perhaps they are softening them up a bit. Getting them in touch with their feelings a bit more. |
That'll be the flight of the talk wenches then?
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Wonder if the Aeronexus 767 that's been doing some flights for Comair is being leased in to cover this U/S 73, :ok: |
Juliet Sierra Papa I was sure I saw Kulula MD on finals to CPT but admit I was a few km's away. Is the 73X still out of service and if so was this MD the replacement? |
Is this the same aircraft (ZS-OAM) EUROPCAR which suffered a #1 Engine Failure out of FAPE on Friday 11th March 2011? :ooh:
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as you all can see,im not hiding behind a nickname,like most of you who has a mouth full to say about enineers/mechanics.
you should all count your blessings that there is people like us around to fix whatever you guys brake during a 3 hour sortie. yes thats right,sometimes it takes a pilot 10 minutes to brake an aircraft.then its us who has to run around and get it fixed so that you can carry on to do your so important job,or to get you a replacement aircraft. do not!!!!!!! look down at us as if we are the scum of the earth,we are here to help you and so should you help us. you should see how incompetent some pilots are,saa,sax,link,british,delta,quantas,everybody has pilots and everybody has engineers/mechanics. after all,we are all just human and you make mistakes and i make mistakes and you know whats the best of all,is that these things that we fly around in,this things that we fix that we call aeroplane,were build by humans. yes,they were build by your own kind. it took us 100 odd years to get were we are today and we are still learing,aviation is still learning from its mistakes,nobody is perfect,not you as a pilot and also not me. get over it buddy,dont think that one companies maintanece is better than the others,they are all the same,in south africa,nigeria,usa,brittan,france and let me tell you another thing,engineers/mechanics in south africa are underpaid and over worked,i dont think that there are engineers/mechanics anywhere in the world who has got more depth and guts than here on homesoil. im proud of my fellow engineers/mechanics. |
Don't worry man, we love you guys. Really. :)
We all (pilots and engineers) face similar pressures, so we joke about the 'swapped for troubleshooting' type of thing, but the real enemy is the time (money!) pressure. If an airline company ponces on about 'Safety First', they're actually talking out of their sphincters - what they really mean is 'Money First, and try to do it safely' :) And yeah, you get some dof pilots too.... |
That should be " you should all count your blessings that there ARE people like us around to fix whatever you guys BREAK." Gottit?:E
Let me guess : Blue Bulls supporter too. |
lodewyk, through your Grade 1 grammar and spelling you have highlighted why you are more correctly referred to as Mechanics rather then Engineers.
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Q4NVS :Is this the same aircraft (ZS-OAM) EUROPCAR which suffered a #1 Engine Failure out of FAPE on Friday 11th March 2011?
No this is another incident, The first one is at Lanseria. There was internal damage, and if you guys are wondering, SAA don't do the major overhauls on the CFM 56-3 anymore. They are outsourced. |
mmmh..
Engineers..they design stuff, technicians fix stuff or try to fix stuff that we intentionally "brake" during our 3 hour sorties..!:hmm:
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Engineers mostly finished school too, and have a degree.
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To the smart arse commentators (i.e. IR Pirate, Oom), did you consider that the person you are sarcastically commenting about (lodewyk) first language might not be English?
WRT to the Engineer vs Mechanic / Technician theme, unfortunately my and most AME’s license book refers to an Aircraft Maintenance Engineer. As of yet I have never come across an AME who claims to be an Engineer from University and experience has shown me that those engineers that never got their matric / “finished school” can be better Aircraft Maintenance Engineers than those with all the “correct” paper qualifications. I have come across more than a few pilots who think they know everything, including how to fix an aeroplane. Problem is most of them are scared of bleeding and getting their hands dirty. |
To the smart arse commentators (i.e. IR Pirate, Oom), did you consider that the person you are sarcastically commenting about (lodewyk) first language might not be English? The way he writes English is indicative of a sloppy, careless attitude and if that is reflected in his work, I hope I never fly on an aircraft he has worked on. |
Let me guess, you’re a pilot and a Psychologist?
Judging someone’s ability to fix aeroplanes by their grammar skills is just silly. Personally I’d rather fly with a pilot who knows how to fly the plane, than one who knows his grammar. :ugh: |
I have to step into bat for our beloved, Engineers, Mechanics and or Techies.
As there are the good and the bad pilots, I am safe to assume the same applies to the beloved spanner monkey (just a joke). There is nothing more cherished than the Engineer that can devise you out of a tight spot, and when you’re sitting in some God forsaken stink hole, this is a prized possession to have. To pull an engine on an uncovered ramp and return it back into the craft you fly, without the comfort of a roof over your head is feat already in the making. To make the aircraft an airworthy chunk of Aluminium is really a master task. I for one am gobsmacked by the plumbing a designer puts into these things. I challenge those that have not tried it, to go to your local repair shop and put your hand in some grease and slop a bearing or two. To the rest I implore, just smile and wave. By these men a Bell’s P.S I did not think ICAO wanted a Level 4 for the AME? |
@ Mattman
Not yet, but who knows what could happen if those lawyers who write the regulations get their way. BTW thanks for the comments, and yes us humans are not perfect. |
Actually, Lodewyk is probably a level 4 or 5 (or even 6) since the ICAO LPR English test is oral and not written, so we couldn't see if he is using capitals or not!
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@ Van Der
I have come across more than a few pilots who think they know everything, including how to fix an aeroplane. Problem is most of them are scared of bleeding and getting their hands dirty. Let me guess, you’re a pilot and a Psychologist? :E ;) |
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Lodewickus....
Have a coke and a smile buddy, you going to give yourself a hot start, possibly throw a few blades, or a bearing :} Ever heard of friendly banter, taking the piss, just like the maintenance crews have a lot to say about the incompetent flightdeck crew, who know nothing, and always break the aeroplane. You are paid for your "expertise" are you not, so fix it...so I can break it later. K |
Bet they didn't need a MM either, just followed the descriptions on the side of the fuselage to differentiate between parts!
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Bet they didn't need a MM either, just followed the descriptions on the side of the fuselage to differentiate between parts! |
Are you as good with grammer and spelling in your tech logs as well......normally aircrew are not........
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Me and grammer are fine, it's grandpa that's a pain in the ass!
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