Virgin Nigeria is hiring!
 

Check here! Virgin Nigeria - VNA Careers

Just wondering, will they hire pilots with 500 hours TT and no type rating as FO's?:} I dont mind moving to nigeria or exposing myself to a full body scanner everytime I go to fly or arriving at the airport 5 hours before the flight!!!

The hiring criteria is quite high at the moment due to the supply

Right now they won't hire without a type rating. But if you have a Boeing 733 EFIS type, run don't walk, to the Chief Pilot's office. If your creds look good you most probably will be hired.

abhi88,

You coming to Naija will be out of desperation and of course, you won't mind exposing yourself but save yourself that threat to your dignity and stay in your Cardboard box!!!

Nigeria don't need people like you who already have a twisted image of it in their head.

Stay in the box sir!

abhi88

You will have to run a psychometric test,to join VK,resulting in the following options

A.no serious concern
B.some concern
C.some serious concern
D.recommended for psychological evaluation


With that attitude guess which group you will fall under?

Huahaha - Yeah, I guess there'd be some serious concern about anybody's mental state who moves to Nigeria.

Well, seriously, if you need to build up some hours, then of course you don't have much choice and have to accept anything.
In Lagos, you'll just spend your entire off-time basically locked up in a hotel. If you do want to go out (but why would you anyway), you have to pay one of the local bandits to protect you as you go.
Life in Lagos is wasted, but as I said, fly some hours and hang on until the situation improves again on the job market, then go back to a normal place.

Life in Lagos is a waste?
 

(In Lagos, you'll just spend your entire off-time basically locked up in a hotel. If you do want to go out (but why would you anyway), you have to pay one of the local bandits to protect you as you go.)The quote above is very wrong, you do not need a bandit to protect you in LOS. Many expats are in clubs and joints daily and no known case of molestation nor threat recorded in the recent times.Please stop painting LOS bad in this way; we know the country have issues with bad rulership.

Please please please I beg, if the Chief Pilot of VK is reading this please do not respond to any application from these racist friend of Africa types.

We have enough guys around West Africa with B737 type or heavy jet experience, check out Arik, loads of our Ecowas and African colleagues and all doing a great job.

Stay in your country get a job in KFC or Jack in the Box and if its that bad then sign up and go to war like the rest of ur brave country men.

Are they willing to take you if you commit to covering the cost of either the EMB or B737 Type rating. I heard there had been a recent mass exodus of Pilots, a few went to Aero and a few I think to Chanchangi, and Arik. Something to do with failing to pay crew salaries, and in some cases failure to facilitate recurrency training. Have things improved there in such a short space of time???

Well u seem to know the current situation, so stay in europe, will call you when things have improved down here.

Thanks for posting. lol

What can a low hour pilot DO!!
 

I am a Nigerian, Just completed my training in the US and have about 220 hours what can i do to get a job?? I need help please anyone everyone!!!!!!!!

What are you still doing in Texas, get back as soon as u can, convert your License and get yourself flying commercial.

Everybody is recruiting right now in Lagos so as fresh as u are, u need to keep it going.

Balewa

need help with the application form..
 

hey all..

the application form has some problems with the date format. when you fill the date in this form dd/mm/yy or dd/mm/yyyy it changes the format itself and turns around the month and the day or the year from one place to another..i have tried by all means to understand their date format in the application form but i cant..can anyone help me with this..will they take non type rated with 500tt..what if you are willing to pay for the rating or atleast 50% are there any chances..any info will be much appreciated..thanks..

happy landings..

aamandani,

If you are willing to pay for type, go ahead and do it. You will most likely get the job. I believe at the moment they will not type because of the exodus mentioned earlier.
For the rest of the guys, you cannot change people's perceptions or opinions. If they feel Lagos is not for them, fine. You cannot resort to childish arguments about living conditions in lagos.
Lagos as we all know is not for the fainthearted, you either take it or leave it.
Trust me many have decided to stay away, that is why there are still job openings there. For those who can hack it, all the best.

Fly safe.

BALEWA, As far as I was aware matey, this site was devised for all involved in aviation to voice their opinions, and that's what I'm doing here. It's information that everyone wants from a very good site like this, so if I have some good or bad info I'll share it, thereafter you can make up your own decisions. All I stated were facts I heard from several Pilot friends who just left the company for the reasons I mentioned earlier. I wasn't putting the company down, I'm actually hoping they pull out of their chaotic situation. What may actually save them, is if they concentrate on making their fleet all EMB, which will reduce their attrition rate to other carriers as they are the only operators of the type. With the B737-300, Pilots will always be tempted to jump ship wherever the offer is better elsewhere, thus causing a vaccum as it is at the moment. VN will I think target low houred chaps with hardly any flight time, then get them to finance the type rating with perhaps a bond, guaranteeing at least 2 years usage out of their Pilots. Experienced guys with TR's may be currently out of a job, but once a better offer comes about, they'll hope. The answer is to invest in Nigerian citizens, which I agree takes time, but in the long run will save these carriers which are improving continually but face bigger challenges.

Thanks Balewa
 

Would it be a good idea to get 737 type rating or would it be paid for in 9ja? and with the conversion what do i need to do or how do i go about it. I just want to sort things out before i leave.
Thank you for the reply!:ok:

Since you're in the DFW area contact Higher Power Aviation or Panam or Aeroservices in miami. Since you dont have ATP mins, you will do the restricted 73 type, that way you get it on your FAA license.
When you get to nigeria all you do is airlaw and get the type endorsed to your nigerian license. It makes life soooo much easier.

Safe Flight

NDB17
 

thanks for your input..very much appreciated..can you help me anyway with the date format on the application...secondly as you mentioned if i do pay for my rating the chances are they will take me..is there any email or contact info that you might have so i can contact them to let them know i will be willing to pay for the rating..i just have an email for submitting the application..if i could gt the CPs email it would be better..i need a way of informing them that i am ready to pay for the rating..thanks once again..

happy landings..

Like my old buddie has said get in touch with higher power or aeroservice, I hear aeroservice got a deal going on for the B737 type. You might need to get the SIC (second in-command) rating like NDB mentioned, so make sure you check that out very well before u move in for the course, NDB should be able to sort u out with details.

Conversion is no big deal, you just come back with all your papers from the FAA and the NCAA will take it from there. Some delays for your exam results and all that but no big deal, it all comes together at the end of the day.

Goodluck and don't delay.

Balewa

Aamandani, before commencing with the TR, please contact the CP or head of ops to findout what exactly they want you to have cover on the TR course, with that info Pan Am or Aeroservice can structure the course to what VN want. If you have time, you should pop over to Nigeria and see them in person, and if you can get some sort of written agreement stating you'll have a job guaranteed on completing your TR. This industry and requirements change so quickly.They may turn round and say we have met our quota for B737 - 300 crews, we only need EMB crew for now. I've been unlucky in that respect and I'd hate to see you go through the same dilema having spent a lot of money. These are just scenarios to lookout for. There is a lot of advice on this site, but the best advice would come from the Airline itself. Not to put you off, have a look at the number of views on this "Virgin is Hiring" post. A lot will of the viewers will already have a B737 -300 rating with time on type, or an EMB TR. Quite a few I know will be from FlyGlobespan which went bust recently, and are now available for work. If you use the rule of thumb for Pilot to aircraft ratio used by most airlines, this equals roughly 7 Cpt to 7 FOs per jet. Anyway I think you stand a very good chance being Nigerian, so give it ago but not without doing your research.

conversion...
 

I would like to know if the ATP written would reduce the number of exams one would take to convert FAA to NCAA license. Any would be great! Areoservice have the best deal (SIC) 737 type right now.. Just under $5k . I just got off the phone with them.

parisjet
 

thanks for your good advice..i will certainly keep that in mind..infact i was nt planning to do the TR without any agreement with them..that is why i am trying to get any contact info for the head of ops or the CP..also i am not a nigerian you have probably mistaken me with the guy who is in texas..i am a tanzanian..i have submitted my application to the email they have posted on the website..i am waiting to see if they will respond and in the mean time find a way to get CPs email or contact..thanks again..

happy landings..

aamandani,
Check your PM, got the contact there for you.

Addisonflyer,
Do not, i repeat, do not do the SIC type, it will be useless unless you get it on your FAA license, which requires 1 takeoff and landing in the actual aircraft.
What you need is the PIC type with the restriction. Contact Higher Power and ask for Gail she is familiar with what im talking about.
Dont waste your time doing any ATP written, has no significance in Nigeria.

Fly Safe

Embraer
 

They are short of Captains on the embraer only. Too many FOs on the e-jet doing an average of 40 hours a month and infact they plan to move some fos with 733 rating back to the 733.

If you are rated on the 733 you stand a chance as they are desperately looking for crew considering the fact that there is an imminent mass exodus to Arik soon.

But be prepared for late pay except if you just want to get some experience:ok:

737 type...
 

I called High power yesterday and the amount they want is a little bit high 16k..... With Aeroservice i would Get the Type on my License but it would Have a PIC limitaion until i have 25 supervised hours in the right seat. I dont think any airline would want to put me in the left seat with just over 200 hrs.... or am i missing something? This whole type thing is so confusing now. According to the FAR/ part 61.63 Sub part E(9) ii. I would Get the type rating on my license but with the supervised limitaion on it. Can any one shed more light on this. Also the Simulator used by Aeroservice is a full motion Level C for the 737-300 and a Full motion Level D for the 737-800 NG

I need HELP!!!!!!! i really want to get this over with and get my behind back to NIGERIA! ASAP...

737 type
 

Just get the 737-300 type with the limitation. Opens all airlines in Nigeria for you and you will get the limitation removed by just showing your logbook to any FSDO after you have 25hrs on type. Also no problems with the NCAA in validating or converting the license. Aeroservice is a good place to train, I can recommend them.

Addisonflyer, maybe try Active aerospace in vancouver Canada, not sure what they charge for the rating, but it's a PIC rating. They can get you sorted out quicker than anywhere I've heard of. They Use Air Canadas and Westjets's SOPs Sims and instructors. A lot of Self sponsored dudes are heading there now, mainly due to less stress in getting a VISA than you would going to the States.

Parisjet
 

I am already in the States so it would be easier to get it all sorted here as to going to canada. Thank you guys for all the information and advice. I dont know what i would have done without y'all? I love PPRUNE!

Where
 

What training facility or school inn Texas did u get your license? Maybe we can meet.

Monarch Air
 

Monarch air in addison TX

Hi Addisonflyer, since ur in Texas give HPA a call and ask for Gail, great people over at Higher Power.

Solid set up and willing to go the extra mile with fresh guys out of school going for large jets, loads of our guys seem to come out of HPA. Give them a visit:

Balewa

Contacts
 

I need help getting contacts in Nigeria.. I want to start my networking and what better place to start....PPRUNE! Please help a brother out!

Higher Pqwer Aviation Has the best deal
 

Hi Brother
As Balewa said contact Gail or Mark at Higher Power since they have excellent deals.I just had a 737 300 type and also had an EFIS/NG orientation on the 737800 Level D Sim.All under 10k.The good part is that i have just finished ma interview with Virgin Nigeria and set to joining them.HPA is about the best in the business when it comes to 737 and they have warm and excellent experienced instructors who dont just check boxes but really teach and guide.Dont be mislead by cheaper options since it is the quality of training that matters.Look forward to see you in Nigeria.They Train FAA inspectors on the 737 300/800 by the way so you know their credibility.

Any boeing time will be good as the difference training is not that great. At least soemone is hiring.

Best way to apply to VN
 

Hi,

I'm a 1500 hour pilot working on a 73 tr. Can anybody advise me on my best way forward to applying to VN? Any contact information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Hi - Does Virgin Nigeria have fly in fly out jobs or does one have to stay in Lagos all the time ?

No commutting
 

I don't know this first hand but reading the posts it seems that they are not geared for that and expect you to stay in Lagos:{

em20 is correct. lagos base only.

@abhi88,
Kindly Chk ur PM inbox!

I think people should verify from the NCAA first before they embark on any course. The NCAA has the final say. I have people who have RECENTLY had serious probs with putting TR on their NCAA licenses after completing courses at some ot the schools mentioned above. This ended up in more money being spent. Sometimes the excitement of the prospect of a first job can cloud one's judgement. Remember that TRTOs like higher power are just after your money.
NCAA regs are changing, they might not allow private candidates to get type ratings. Also if u r a foreigner there are now new regulations regarding minimum experience levels for capts and f/os. Basically if u r an expat, u should be an EXPERT. No more coming to Nigeria to gain experience, which is the casefor a lot of the expats flying in Nigeria. Expats are supposed to be hired for their expertise.

Caveat emptor!